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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: Eclipse on September 09, 2013, 11:45:18 PM

Title: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Eclipse on September 09, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
Honestly, I'd expect a story like this on Duffle Blog or The Onion, because it has Urban Legend written all over it,
but forewarned is forearmed.

"The Air Force is concerned that your next trip down the dairy aisle could make you look like a pothead.
Servicemembers have been told to avoid Blueberry Power Chobani Flip Greek yogurt because it comes with hemp seeds, according to an Air Force press release.
Chobani has agreed to remove the hemp seeds from the product, according to the release.
Hemp seeds and seed oil can contain tetrahydrocannabinol, an active ingredient of marijuana, according to Air Force Instruction 44-121, and is detectable by a drug test. "


http://www.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-central/stripes-central-1.8040/yogurt-might-cause-servicemembers-to-fail-drug-test-1.239373 (http://www.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-central/stripes-central-1.8040/yogurt-might-cause-servicemembers-to-fail-drug-test-1.239373)

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130826/NEWS/308260043/Air-Force-bans-Greek-yogurt-hemp-seed (http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130826/NEWS/308260043/Air-Force-bans-Greek-yogurt-hemp-seed)

Don't be alarmed...
http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/cadet_programs/?hemp_in_yogurt&show=entry&blogID=1098 (http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/cadet_programs/?hemp_in_yogurt&show=entry&blogID=1098)

Seinfeld Drug Testing 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFqOSa7u0dA#)


Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: lordmonar on September 09, 2013, 11:52:09 PM
Why do we care as CAP what our member's eat?

The only reason why the USAF bans eating it....is because it can cause you to test positive and they want to stop any drug users from claiming "Oh....I had a yogurt and a Jones soda this morning".

It is not like it can get you high or anything.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: spaatzmom on September 09, 2013, 11:54:35 PM
No urban legend on this or any food with poppy seeds.  Both with have you come up positive on a drug screen.  If your job does random screenings this could be a big problem.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Critical AOA on September 10, 2013, 12:13:21 AM
You have to eat a ton of poppy seeds to pop positive on a test.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: lordmonar on September 10, 2013, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: David Vandenbroeck on September 10, 2013, 12:13:21 AM
You have to eat a ton of poppy seeds to pop positive on a test.
No according to Snopes.....just read up on it....seems it only takes four or so the day prior to give you a positive result.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: abdsp51 on September 10, 2013, 12:23:40 AM
Old news in the AF.  There is only one flavor in particular this impacts.  Also there is a specific threshold that you have to meet or exceed to pop hot.  Now that does not give an AF member an excuse to consume or ingest or inhale something containing THC, but there has been some homework done on this.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Critical AOA on September 10, 2013, 12:29:15 AM
If you look at the years of the cases on snopes, you will notice that they are quite a few years ago.  The standards have been raised dramatically.  The standard was once very low at 300 ng/ml.  Now most federal standards are set at 2000 ng/ml and the military actually uses 3000.  So, yep, you'd need to eat a lot.   I eat poppy seeds and I have been tested randomly as well as pre-employment throughout my career.  Never got busted for it.

Aviation professionals know these things.  ;D
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Eclipse on September 10, 2013, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on September 10, 2013, 12:23:40 AM
Old news in the AF.  There is only one flavor in particular this impacts. 

Interesting - looks like Chobani pulled a lot of stuff from the shelves last week:
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm367298.htm (http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm367298.htm)
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: abdsp51 on September 10, 2013, 01:18:26 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on September 10, 2013, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on September 10, 2013, 12:23:40 AM
Old news in the AF.  There is only one flavor in particular this impacts. 

Interesting - looks like Chobani pulled a lot of stuff from the shelves last week:
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm367298.htm (http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm367298.htm)

I have email traffic on it this is a couple weeks old.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: SarDragon on September 10, 2013, 02:47:01 AM
Not too long before I retired, I ate two teaspoons of poppy seeds on a lark. Got selected for a random whiz quiz about two weeks later. No problem.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: a2capt on September 10, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
What's the problem, just blame it on your metabolism. Floyd Landis did.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: raivo on September 10, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
I got the e-mail about this a week or two ago.

You will not test positive on a urinalysis for eating this particular yogurt, unless you're eating ridiculous amounts of it. However... consuming hemp products is in violation of AF regulations, and can therefore be prosecuted under the UCMJ. Just because you don't pi- sorry, "whizz" hot on a drug test doesn't mean that you can't be convicted of consuming prohibited substances.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Critical AOA on September 11, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
I guess that would mean that you have to be sure to read the ingredients of every thing you consume. I'm not sure what percentage of the population does that.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: PHall on September 11, 2013, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: David Vandenbroeck on September 11, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
I guess that would mean that you have to be sure to read the ingredients of every thing you consume. I'm not sure what percentage of the population does that.

If you're in the Air Force these days and you want to stay in the Air Force you do.
Because this is the era of the "No mistake Air Force".
Fail a wizz quiz or get a DUI and they start the out processing procedures.
Title: Re: Airmen warned to avoid yogurt containing hemp seed oil
Post by: Johnny Yuma on September 23, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
One of my ex-Wing Commanders had foster kids, many of them that they had were juvie offenders subject to UA's. Social workers told them not to feed them poppy or hemp seeds as the testing process gave false positives for them. Apparently the private social service agencies in charge of these kids were more interested in cutting costs with cheap quality tests than being certain if a kid had a real dope problem or not.