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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: greyfrog on February 20, 2013, 12:42:29 AM

Title: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: greyfrog on February 20, 2013, 12:42:29 AM
I am a new SM.  Can I receive training and serve in both the CP and ES aspects of the CAP?
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: a2capt on February 20, 2013, 12:53:47 AM
..and Aerospace?

Sure. Why not?

Use your ES for CP, too.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Eclipse on February 20, 2013, 01:27:41 AM
The only limitations are on your time and initiative.

If your unit isn't doing something you want to, you can seek it out at other units and activities.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Walkman on February 20, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
Like Eclipse said, you can have as many jobs as you have the time and passion for. One thing I would recommend as a new SM is that if you're going to try and tackle two specialty tracks, find a good mentor for each. I would also recommend hanging out with a variety of the other SMs and see what they do. You'l not only get a good feel for how everything fits together, but you might find something you like that did't occur to you before.

Welcome to CAP.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Woodsy on February 20, 2013, 01:59:02 AM
One thing I've seen new members get caught up here is the difference between the ES specialty track and participation in emergency services operations.  Any member who goes through the required training for an operations qualification can be involved in operations, regardless of specialty track.  You don't need to be enrolled in the ES Specialty Track in order to go out on a mission, assuming you're qualified to do so.  You can do that with a CP specialty track.

For example, I'm highly involved in operations and work a lot of missions, yet my sole specialty track is public affairs, as is my duty assignment.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Private Investigator on February 20, 2013, 09:23:35 AM
^ +1
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Shawn W. on February 27, 2013, 01:21:13 AM
The beauty of this volunteer organization as any, is that Yes you can volunteer to do as much or as little as you want. However, I will caution you not to take too much on at one time and then burn yourself out.. I have seen many a Senior Member come in all fired up and ready to to take on all that CAP has to offer, just to burn themselves out a few months later. Take your time and learn the right way. Good Luck. :-D
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: flyboy53 on February 27, 2013, 04:22:13 AM
Quote from: greyfrog on February 20, 2013, 12:42:29 AM
I am a new SM.  Can I receive training and serve in both the CP and ES aspects of the CAP?

Certainly! You should consider an ES speciality that would align with CP, and that more than likely, would be ground team or perhaps communications.

The beauty of those ES fields is that those are the ones most likey involving cadets, so you have a mission related skill that allows you to continue mentoring them.

What ever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 28, 2013, 12:01:54 AM
I work with both seniors and cadets. And on the ES side, I participate as an aircrew, mission base and ground/UDF team member. The great thing about CAP is that you can participate and train in as much as your time will allow.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Sapper168 on February 28, 2013, 01:17:29 AM
I am both my squadrons ES officer and the assistant Deputy Commander for Cadets.   8) ;D
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: JeffDG on February 28, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
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Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: FlyTiger77 on February 28, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on February 28, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
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Jeff is a man of few dots.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Private Investigator on March 02, 2013, 04:20:06 PM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on February 28, 2013, 01:17:29 AM
I am both my squadrons ES officer and the assistant Deputy Commander for Cadets.   8) ;D

In smaller Squadrons you may have four or five hats and in a larger Squadron, maybe one or a complaint I hear a lot you may be lost in a crowd and have no assignment and been going for two years before you even get promoted to 2nd Lt !!!
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: greyfrog on March 03, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
If someone is multi-hatted how is one evaluated for promotion.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Sapper168 on March 04, 2013, 02:53:27 AM
Quote from: greyfrog on March 03, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
If someone is multi-hatted how is one evaluated for promotion.

I am usually evaluated as being awesome.  8) ;D >:D
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: SarDragon on March 04, 2013, 04:43:33 AM
Quote from: greyfrog on March 03, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
If someone is multi-hatted how is one evaluated for promotion.

There is no formal evaluation involved. The commander looks at how you have done your assigned jobs, and if it's acceptable, he signs the form/clicks the button, and the  promotion goes upstream to the next level.
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: greyfrog on March 05, 2013, 04:16:55 AM
Copy...thanks
Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: Private Investigator on March 06, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: greyfrog on March 03, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
If someone is multi-hatted how is one evaluated for promotion.

If you are referring to speciality tracks. Whichever one gets you to a Technician rating first earns you 1st Lt. Senior rating = Major and Master gets Lt Col. Of course time in grade and service and a few other items is required. 2d Lt is basically six months and your Commande's approval.

In the past, a few jobs were easier to promote in then others. Now all specialities are similar but some require more hoops o jump thru then others.

Have fun

Title: Re: Can an SM be dual-hatted in CP and ES?
Post by: greyfrog on March 07, 2013, 04:11:45 AM
Thanks, PI