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Title: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: ol'fido on December 28, 2012, 01:10:45 AM
I found this out on facebook. Is there any word on a cause?

In any case.....Rest In Peace, Sir. Our prayers are with you.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: ol'fido on December 28, 2012, 01:10:45 AM
I found this out on facebook. Is there any word on a cause?

In any case.....Rest In Peace, Sir. Our prayers are with you.
Haven't heard a cause yet. RIP Stormin' Norman.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Eclipse on December 28, 2012, 02:23:26 AM
They literally don't make guys like this anymore.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/NormanSchwarzkopf.jpg/220px-NormanSchwarzkopf.jpg)

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121228125706-norman-schwarzkopf-1991-story-top.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Powell%2C_Schwarzkopf%2C_and_Wolfowitz_at_Cheney_press_conference%2C_February_1991.jpg/800px-Powell%2C_Schwarzkopf%2C_and_Wolfowitz_at_Cheney_press_conference%2C_February_1991.jpg)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/919349/thumbs/s-NORMAN-SCHWARZKOPF-DEAD-large.jpg)

GHWB isn't doing so well, apparently, either.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Bush_saudi_arabia.jpg)
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Pop quiz...who knows what the "H." is for...
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Pop quiz...who knows what the "H." is for...
Herbert.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:43:02 AM
Quote from: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Pop quiz...who knows what the "H." is for...
Herbet.
Nope.  Even assuming you missed the second "r" in Herbert, it's incorrect.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:54:31 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:43:02 AM
Quote from: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Pop quiz...who knows what the "H." is for...
Herbet.
Nope.  Even assuming you missed the second "r" in Herbert, it's incorrect.
Whoops, and what is it then? Oh wait, are we talking about George H. W. Bush or Stormin' Norman?
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:56:02 AM
Quote from: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:54:31 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:43:02 AM
Quote from: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Pop quiz...who knows what the "H." is for...
Herbet.
Nope.  Even assuming you missed the second "r" in Herbert, it's incorrect.
Whoops, and what is it then? Oh wait, are we talking about George H. W. Bush or Stormin' Norman?
Good point, I was talking about the General, for the President, Herbert would be correct.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 03:00:48 AM
Just found this line that I always loved:

QuoteAs far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that, he's a great military man, I want you to know that.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Walkman on December 28, 2012, 03:01:13 AM
His autobiography was an excellent read. He had a no-bravo sierra attitude that I liked. He was the the guy responsible for adding the tape measurements to the Army H/W regs.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 03:04:27 AM
Quote from: Walkman on December 28, 2012, 03:01:13 AM
His autobiography was an excellent read. He had a no-bravo sierra attitude that I liked. He was the the guy responsible for adding the tape measurements to the Army H/W regs.
+1

Loved his book...read it when it first came out in paperback in 1993.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
Here's his account of his first day at West Point (and the explanation for the "H"):

Quote"Who ever heard of not having a first name!  What does your birth certificate say?"  While I didn't like being harassed, I was secretly glad because Pop was finally getting his revenge.  (His full name was Herbert Normal Schwarzkopf, and though he hated "Herbert" and preferred "H. Norman," he'd experienced this very scene as a cadet, and as a result was called Herbert on all his Army records.  To prevent this from happening to me, he'd officially named me "H. Norman.")  It took the Beast Detail several minutes to look up the regulation Army solution.  They finally instructed me to write "H. (F.I.O.) Norman Schwarzkopf."  "F.I.O." meant "first initial only."

Schwarzkopf, H. N. (1993). It doesn't take a hero. (Paperback ed., p. 67). Bantam.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Garibaldi on December 28, 2012, 04:49:06 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
Here's his account of his first day at West Point (and the explanation for the "H"):

Quote"Who ever heard of not having a first name!  What does your birth certificate say?"  While I didn't like being harassed, I was secretly glad because Pop was finally getting his revenge.  (His full name was Herbert Normal Schwarzkopf, and though he hated "Herbert" and preferred "H. Norman," he'd experienced this very scene as a cadet, and as a result was called Herbert on all his Army records.  To prevent this from happening to me, he'd officially named me "H. Norman.")  It took the Beast Detail several minutes to look up the regulation Army solution.  They finally instructed me to write "H. (F.I.O.) Norman Schwarzkopf."  "F.I.O." meant "first initial only."

Schwarzkopf, H. N. (1993). It doesn't take a hero. (Paperback ed., p. 67). Bantam.

Reminds me of a story I heard fom a comedian about his dim-bulb buddy JB. He put "J only B only" on his driver's license application because JB didn't stand for anything. It came back as Jonly Bonly.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: LGM30GMCC on December 28, 2012, 05:19:38 AM
I kinda did this when creating some graduation certificates for Space 100. There was a student Li Huan or something (name made up, but you get the idea). However, because of the database it pulled middle names/initials and similar stuff for the certificates.

I don't remember if it made it to the final one, but on a lot of drafts there was Li Nmi Huan. No one had told me NMI = No Middle Initial. Oops. It passed the 'whatever, looks right to me' check. It wasn't until I saw a lot of Asian-descendant folks with the same middle name that I started doing some poking and found that out.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Woodsy on December 28, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: LGM30GMCC on December 28, 2012, 05:19:38 AM
I kinda did this when creating some graduation certificates for Space 100. There was a student Li Huan or something (name made up, but you get the idea). However, because of the database it pulled middle names/initials and similar stuff for the certificates.

I don't remember if it made it to the final one, but on a lot of drafts there was Li Nmi Huan. No one had told me NMI = No Middle Initial. Oops. It passed the 'whatever, looks right to me' check. It wasn't until I saw a lot of Asian-descendant folks with the same middle name that I started doing some poking and found that out.

Dang...  I just realized that myself...  I hope NHQ sorted it out... 
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: davedove on December 28, 2012, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on December 28, 2012, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: ol'fido on December 28, 2012, 01:10:45 AM
I found this out on facebook. Is there any word on a cause?

In any case.....Rest In Peace, Sir. Our prayers are with you.
Haven't heard a cause yet. RIP Stormin' Norman.

I heard on the radio this morning that it was complications from pheumonia.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: a2capt on December 28, 2012, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
Quote"(His full name was Herbert Normal Schwarzkopf, and though he hated "Herbert" and preferred "H. Norman,"
.. 'Normal'? The N is pretty far from the L..
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: JeffDG on December 28, 2012, 04:56:06 PM
Oops...sorry, was typing and reading at the same time, and blew it!
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on December 29, 2012, 01:34:57 AM
Farewell, Sir <popping salute>.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Rick-DEL on December 31, 2012, 01:37:07 PM
RIP, Sir. It was a pleasure to meet you.
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: Devil Doc on January 01, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
He was the Armies Version of Chesty Puller, great man, real motivator.
Title: Re: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: NIN on January 01, 2013, 02:50:39 AM
Quote from: Devil Doc on January 01, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
He was the Armies Version of Chesty Puller, great man, real motivator.

Careful
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: PHall on January 01, 2013, 03:12:32 AM
Quote from: Devil Doc on January 01, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
He was the Armies Version of Chesty Puller, great man, real motivator.

Navy folk should not try to speak for the other services....
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: SarDragon on January 01, 2013, 04:05:48 AM
Who gots the popcorn pic?  >:D
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: a2capt on January 01, 2013, 04:14:36 AM
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6238/mindlesseating.jpg)
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: SarDragon on January 01, 2013, 04:32:41 AM
Thank you kindly.  :clap:
Title: Re: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf RIP
Post by: AngelWings on January 01, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
Mind to share some of that popcorn?