If you already have a service hat and don't wanna buy another one just for the TPU, heres the cheap and dirty method for converting a standard service cap to one that will work with the TPU:
Go to Vanguard's military website (www.vanguardmil.com). Under 'COAST GUARD' they sell the silver CG Auxie cap strap: (Or if you're an Auxie, you can probably get it from their uniform sales.)
3082300
COAST GUARD AUXILIARY CAP STRAP ONE HALF INCH SILVREEN - PRICE PER EACH $7.00
Swap the black leather cap strap (the buttons are screw-ons) for the silver, adjust and voilá! Keep your black leather strap (easily hidden inside the cap)in case you wanna change over to the standard USAF style.
Good find there LT, heres your ribbon. :D
(http://www.thehock.com/shop/images/140.jpg)
Honestly though, good ingenuity.
Yup, that's what I did though I gotta ask; isn't this (http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321)the chinstrap we want?
Or you could save every penny and just use a flight cap, right? ;D :P ;)
(Nice tip...by the way.)
Quote from: Becks on February 22, 2007, 01:36:45 AM
Good find there LT, heres your ribbon. :D
(http://www.thehock.com/shop/images/140.jpg)
Honestly though, good ingenuity.
Already got one chasing an ELT, thanks! ;D
Quote from: Camas on February 22, 2007, 02:04:06 AM
Yup, that's what I did though I gotta ask; isn't this (http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321)the chinstrap we want?
Prolly the same strap... gonna hafta check it out to see if there's any difference between this one and the CG Auxie cap strap.
The policy letter just says gray, what's up with that? Is it supposed to be the AF honor guard strap? I think that's the second one posted, is the CGAux strap the same as that?
Whatever, I'm never wearing that uniform, much less a service hat with it. As if the braids weren't enough, you need a bright shiny strap too. Screw that.
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on February 22, 2007, 01:12:58 AM
(Or if you're an Auxie, you can probably get it from their uniform sales.)
$4.35 thru UDC (http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-w/g-wp/udc/Index.htm)
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on February 22, 2007, 01:12:58 AM
If you already have a service hat and don't wanna buy another one just for the TPU, heres the cheap and dirty method for converting a standard service cap to one that will work with the TPU:
Go to Vanguard's military website (www.vanguardmil.com). Under 'COAST GUARD' they sell the silver CG Auxie cap strap: (Or if you're an Auxie, you can probably get it from their uniform sales.)
3082300
COAST GUARD AUXILIARY CAP STRAP ONE HALF INCH SILVREEN - PRICE PER EACH $7.00
Swap the black leather cap strap (the buttons are screw-ons) for the silver, adjust and voilá! Keep your black leather strap (easily hidden inside the cap)in case you wanna change over to the standard USAF style.
What the heck is this then?
http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321 (http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321)
1/2" ALUMINUN CHIN STRAP FOR SERVICE CAP
Quantity: 1
Price: $5.45
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 22, 2007, 04:29:00 AM
What the heck is this then?
http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321 (http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321)
1/2" ALUMINUN CHIN STRAP FOR SERVICE CAP
Quantity: 1
Price: $5.45
Besides stupid-looking?
Or was that
not a rhetorical question?
Quote from: tedda on February 22, 2007, 06:34:54 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 22, 2007, 04:29:00 AM
What the heck is this then?
http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321 (http://www.civilairpatrolstore.com/store/view_product.php?product=20321)
1/2" ALUMINUN CHIN STRAP FOR SERVICE CAP
Quantity: 1
Price: $5.45
Besides stupid-looking?
Or was that not a rhetorical question?
Oy...yikes!!! I have yet to own any of the new uniform. I am debating getting an aviator shirt and grew pants to leave in the car in the event I have an ELT search while at work.
The real issue is...
1) how hard this item is to find
2) there is no photo
3) its been quite a while and they have yet to spend any time on mitigating these issues.
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 22, 2007, 07:33:03 AM
The real issue is...
1) how hard this item is to find
2) there is no photo
3) its been quite a while and they have yet to spend any time on mitigating these issues.
Looks like this... uh, the one on the right, I think, I'll let ya know when I get to looking at that side of the photo...
(http://www.chairforce.com/fun/funny-photos/hires/USAFDrillTeam.jpg)
What right side of the photo? There's a right side to the photo?
Jack
You mean the one with the long hair and the big um... boots?
Quote from: DNall on February 22, 2007, 07:52:42 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 22, 2007, 07:33:03 AM
The real issue is...
1) how hard this item is to find
2) there is no photo
3) its been quite a while and they have yet to spend any time on mitigating these issues.
Looks like this... uh, the one on the right, I think, I'll let ya know when I get to looking at that side of the photo...
(http://www.chairforce.com/fun/funny-photos/hires/USAFDrillTeam.jpg)
Uh...nice pic, albiet, I mean there was no photo at Vangaurd. One would think they would have designed a webpage with no "no photo available" jpegs by t his point.
When did the authorises pom-poms with the TPU?
Quote from: lordmonar on February 22, 2007, 04:35:34 PM
When did the authorises pom-poms with the TPU?
Oh that's the 18-30 female version, didn't you get that memo? ;D Gotta love that first element eyes center command, right?
Vanguard sucks, got it. They're doing better on the customer service, really. It does suck they can't get pix up on the site, but honestly how much volume you think they're doing to CAP versus the real mil side of their business. It's just a low priority to them.
Quote from: lordmonar on February 22, 2007, 04:35:34 PM
When did the authorises pom-poms with the TPU?
When TP and the AF realized how great they looked when added to the uniform.
Quote from: RogueLeader on February 22, 2007, 04:49:16 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on February 22, 2007, 04:35:34 PM
When did the authorises pom-poms with the TPU?
When TP and the AF realized how great they looked when added to the uniform.
You mean when TP asked for them as an accessory w/ AF-style service dress & was rejected cause that's gay, so created his own "corporate version" w/o consulting them & the AF had to check & see if pom poms violated international law in some way but still hadn't gotten around to making them compliant with AF regs. That particular uniform ertainly seems to be in the best
interest of the AF, at least the interest of those airmen.
Those airmen in the front row are not doing a very good job of keeping their eyes straight ahead! ;D
Quote from: TDHenderson on February 22, 2007, 05:05:37 PM
Those airmen in the front row are not doing a very good job of keeping their eyes straight ahead! ;D
Quote from: DNall on February 22, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
Gotta love that first element eyes center command, right?
Quote from: DNall on February 22, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
Vanguard sucks, got it. They're doing better on the customer service, really. It does suck they can't get pix up on the site, but honestly how much volume you think they're doing to CAP versus the real mil side of their business. It's just a low priority to them.
Yes, but they have a freakin' monopoly by special arrangement. Civil Air Patrol is an exclusive client, they have a responsibility to honor that arrangement...or should.
I am very pleased with their customer service, but the WEBSITE needs to be current and functional, not amendments to a hastily thrown together WEPAGE smattering as they have it now.
What can we then say? Lack of Competion breeds mediocre service? A basic tenet of Conservatice Economics.
SO, what can we do?
Complain to the lady at HQ. Adds a number to the list & if that gets high enough at some point you'd hope CAP would act on it.
Sure it's an exclusive arrangement, and that sucks cause it puts some outstanding suppliers out of reach, but it's a tiny side business for a big company that's focused on the big military contracts it lives or dies by.
Quote from: DNall on February 22, 2007, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: TDHenderson on February 22, 2007, 05:05:37 PM
Those airmen in the front row are not doing a very good job of keeping their eyes straight ahead! ;D
Quote from: DNall on February 22, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
Gotta love that first element eyes center command, right?
I understand proper Drill, but can you REALLY blame them? I'd have to be in the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy to not look.
Bought a brand-new Service Cap from OLCNET for about $10.00-a real bargain.
When I made Major, I bought the "farts & darts" upgrade version for $36.00.
In all my time in CAP I wore them.......twice.