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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: desert rat on February 19, 2007, 03:56:22 AM

Title: Cadet Recruiter Ribbon
Post by: desert rat on February 19, 2007, 03:56:22 AM
Can a cadet help recruit members for another states squadron and earn the ribbon?   A cadet I know has recruited 4 kids while on vacation to another state, if the commander of the unit verifies it can his current unit's leader award the ribbon?

More accurate topic title - MIKE
Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: Pylon on February 19, 2007, 04:00:55 AM
Quote from: desert rat on February 19, 2007, 03:56:22 AM
Can a cadet help recruit members for another states squadron and earn the ribbon?   A cadet I know has recruited 4 kids while on vacation to another state, if the commander of the unit verifies it can his current unit's leader award the ribbon?

It doesn't matter where the recruiting took place.  CAP is one organization.

The cadet who did the recruiting should get the names of the new people he recruited, fill out a CAPF 2A for the Cadet Recruiting Ribbon for himself, and present it to his chain of command for approval.
Title: Re: Cadet Recruiter Ribbon
Post by: MIKE on February 19, 2007, 04:04:29 AM
A copy of the page of the CAPF 12 or 15 for each new member with the recruiting cadets name and info included on it would certainly help.
Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: DNall on February 19, 2007, 04:05:48 AM
CAP is a national organization, not a series of state organizations that share the same name... meaning yes of course it counts, it doesn't matter where they join. You should have some sort of verification, but it's a Sq approval level award to the best of my knowledge. The new members in question should have written on their applications that this cadet referred them, but you won't have easy access to that. An email or any other document from the other CC verifying the fact to your CC's satisfaction is plenty. Attach that to the 2a & drop it in their file.
Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: DNall on February 19, 2007, 04:06:46 AM
Quote from: Pylon on February 19, 2007, 04:00:55 AM
It doesn't matter where the recruiting took place.  CAP is one organization.
Hey, I was just typing that.  ;D
Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: Major Carrales on February 19, 2007, 05:07:10 AM
Is there anyway to determine ho wmany people you have actually recruited?

I mean, I asume that the "Person Most Responsible" section of the CAPF 12 and CAPF 15.  But is it documented anywhere?

Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: Pylon on February 19, 2007, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 19, 2007, 05:07:10 AM
Is there anyway to determine ho wmany people you have actually recruited?

I mean, I asume that the "Person Most Responsible" section of the CAPF 12 and CAPF 15.  But is it documented anywhere?

Like many personnel things in CAP, you track for yourself.

I had records from when I was a cadet of a handful of people I recruited.  But I didn't keep copies, and over a number of years and a unit transfer, those old CAPF 2As are gone with nothing to show for the recruits.  *shrug*

Always keep copies.  That's the only way you can be sure you've gotten everything to which you are entitled.
Title: Re: Cadet Recruiter Ribbon
Post by: DNall on February 19, 2007, 05:42:22 AM
By the way Cadet Recruiting Ribbon I think you're talking about. Membership is a SM ribbon for completing level I.

Hey, never mind, got fixed.  ;D
Title: Re: membership ribbon
Post by: Major Carrales on February 19, 2007, 05:43:08 AM
Quote from: Pylon on February 19, 2007, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on February 19, 2007, 05:07:10 AM
Is there anyway to determine ho wmany people you have actually recruited?

I mean, I asume that the "Person Most Responsible" section of the CAPF 12 and CAPF 15.  But is it documented anywhere?

Like many personnel things in CAP, you track for yourself.

I had records from when I was a cadet of a handful of people I recruited.  But I didn't keep copies, and over a number of years and a unit transfer, those old CAPF 2As are gone with nothing to show for the recruits.  *shrug*

Always keep copies.  That's the only way you can be sure you've gotten everything to which you are entitled.

Thanks...

There was a while, "Membership 2000," when they would publish a list in CAP News of the "leaders" in recruiting. I assumed there was a master list.
Title: Re: Cadet Recruiter Ribbon
Post by: RiverAux on February 19, 2007, 02:00:45 PM
I don't know how many people for whom I've been their first contact who got them to come to a meeting (a dozen or two?), but the local personnel officer, who fills out all the paperwork, always lists himself as the person most responsible on the forms.  Perhaps he is since he "sealed the deal", but the criteria have always seemed vague to me on this one.  To me the biggest accomplishment is getting a potential recruit to a meeting.  Once they're there our stats indicate we've got a very good chance of actually having them sign up.