My cousin is also a cadet in CAP. So when i was promoted to Airmen first class he was still a Airmen basic. Well we went to a parade and he was being a idiot and being embarrasing to the unit. I confronted him he told me that he doesn't have to listen to me because i don't have much rank over him. So the question is, what should i reply back? Then what should i do? Report it up in the chain of command or ignore it? Or was he correct and i was wrong?
You don't do anything. Your Cadet Staff should be managing it. If you are on the staff, then you take it up your chain of command.
Nothing funnier then a bunch of airman (AB-A1C) arguing about who outranks who.
First.....and formorest.......use your chain of command...that is how you handle it. Your Amn friend is not recognising your A1C authrotity.....go find a SrA or SSgt and have him help you out.
You should leave it to your senior leadership to handle.
Quote from: usafaux2004 on August 05, 2012, 05:53:55 PM
You don't do anything. Your Cadet Staff should be managing it. If you are on the staff, then you take it up your chain of command.
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.
Quote from: lordmonar on August 05, 2012, 05:55:08 PM
Nothing funnier then a bunch of airman (AB-A1C) arguing about who outranks who.
First.....and formorest.......use your chain of command...that is how you handle it. Your Man friend is not recognising your A1C authrotity.....go find aSTrA or SSgt and have him help you out.
Thank you now that makes sense.
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.
The Cadet in Charge should have been doing that, not passing the buck down to another cadet who hasn't even reached an NCO level yet.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.
The Cadet in Charge should have been doing that, not passing the buck down to another cadet who hasn't even reached an NCO level yet.
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order
There are other options besides the extremes.
You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order
There are other options besides the extremes.
You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.
My family? How do you mean?
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:20:23 PM
My family? How do you mean?
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
My cousin is also a cadet in CAP. So when i was promoted to Airmen first class he was still a Airmen basic. Well we went to a parade and he was being a idiot and being embarrasing to the unit. I confronted him he told me that he doesn't have to listen to me because i don't have much rank over him. So the question is, what should i reply back? Then what should i do? Report it up in the chain of command or ignore it? Or was he correct and i was wrong?
Cousin, noun:
one related by descent in a diverging line from a known common ancestor, as from one's grandparent or from one's father's or mother's sister or brother.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order
There are other options besides the extremes.
You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.
I see now. Its not like its hard for me to confront him but it hard to say that you need to respect my grade to him because it will make me sound like i'm being a dictator just because i have one rank over him.
Confidence in your leadership abilities will come with more experience. Until then, disengage and leave it to the staff to handle.
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
Always use the Chain of Command.
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
You need to stop being so disrespectful, cadet.
Quote from: JayT on August 08, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
You need to stop being so disrespectful, cadet.
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How can you expect a Cadet Airman to show respect to you, a Cadet Senior Airman, when you are so disrespectful toward others much higher in grade than yourself?
Ah, the irony, huh?
When I was a very young boy, I demanded that my younger brother share his toys with me but I refused to share mine with him. My father "explained" things to me. I learned to share. Some folks were just probably never given a real good "explanation" in their life.
Do you know what a Cadet Senior Airman and a horrible attitude equals? A DOOR!
Quote from: Jay on August 08, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
You need to stop being so disrespectful, cadet.
Jay t i don't go by cadet because like i mention so many times this is a
unofficial form! For the record he started it.
No one her told cap235629 to stop being disrespectful toward me. If you want me to show you respect then show me respect!!!
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
Jay t i don't go by cadet because like i mention so many times this is a unofficial form!
You might as well just dispel that notion now.
The fact that this forum is "unofficial" is irrelevant to the fact that you are a cadet and your comments and behavior here can and will have
real-world consequences.
Plenty of people have learned that lesson the hard way - there's no such thing as being "anonymous" on the internet. You can either accept that
as the life-lesson it is, or don't, and then be surprised and indignant when it turns out to be true.
Cadet, you need to take a chill pill. A really big one.
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PMI will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
Maybe you should read the Membership Code of Conduct (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=13.0) that you agreed to when you signed up for this forum.
QuoteAll members will respect the opinion and dignity of other members, whether or not they may be present. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and certainly discourse on varying opinions is excellent. However, members will not attack others based on their opinions and beliefs, regardless of whether they agree or not.
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 08:26:32 PMJay t i don't go by cadet because like i mention so many times this is a unofficial form! For the record he started it.
"Cadet"
is a proper form of address for any cadet by senior members.
I think an attitude change is in order here. Otherwise, if it continues, you might be asked to leave.
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
If you want me to show you respect then show me respect!!!
Cadet, it doesn't work that way!
I can only hope that a senior member from PA-239 is monitoring this situation here on Captalk and will consider taking appropriate action. Enough already!
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
No one her told cap235629 to stop being disrespectful toward me. If you want me to show you respect then show me respect!!!
Cadet, since I have no idea what your name is, good luck with your current train wreck of thought. You are 12 years old by your profile. You are responding in a very juvenile manner to the majority of posters who are at the least twice if not 4 or more times older than you. It seems like you have not learned how to deal with your elders in an effective way, thus your future in nearly any endeavor is going to be to say the least stressful and counter productive until you do learn. If you think that your local chain of command will have no idea of what has and is transpiring with you on this forum, you are sadly mistaken. They are likely well aware by reading all of it themselves or have been informed by the vast CAP grapevine that exists. Many cadets and senior members have been derailed by their own posts here.
Think about this. Do you talk to your parents/ grandparents/ legal guardians like this? Do you get away with it? I doubt you do, but in the off chance that you do.... either they have failed to teach you or you have refused to listen. Do yourself a favor and listen up fly right and actually help yourself instead of digging your own grave.
Quotethere's no such thing as being "anonymous" on the internet
For the record, this is a completely untrue statement -- however, that being said simply having a handle on the internet provides no anonymity. >:D
Quote from: krnlpanick on August 08, 2012, 09:38:10 PM
Quotethere's no such thing as being "anonymous" on the internet
For the record, this is a completely untrue statement --
Don't kid yourself. Internet anonymity does not exist, pick all the proxies and anonymizers you like, the issue is only how much anyone
is interested in figuring out who you are. If Chinese hackers want to try and fool us into thinking they are going to HMRS, it'll take a little
longer then when the average cadet makes a fake handle and doesn't post a name, but it is amazing what contextual searching
can come up with (over and above the usual stuff).
For the average, non-technical user type, it literally doesn't exist - but with that said, is that the point of this conversation?
There is no question that this cadet has some maturing to do. It is also true that he has much to learn. Having a half dozen people pointing this out to him is not going to help him much. Maybe not poking him with a stick over and over would help. Then again, maybe not....
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
No one her told cap235629 to stop being disrespectful toward me. If you want me to show you respect then show me respect!!!
That's because cap235629 was trying to give you advice. Advice you've refused to listen too. This isn't Facebook, and this isn't a Gears of War forum. Make no mistake, you will meet some of the people on this forum in real life, if your CAP career survives. Being told to 'read more and post less' is not insulting.