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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM

Title: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
Since CAP is to switch to the ABU's eventually, why dont we change our nametapes as well? i like the blue field they have for the background, but the lettering colors should change. i was thinking a reflective lettering should replace it for GT purposes. or if yall have any idea's about uniform changes (nametape,patches) then speak up.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: ProdigalJim on July 27, 2012, 10:22:55 PM
Please tell me you're kidding?

The number of posts on this board refuting the "we're-gonna-get-ABUs" rumors is growing logarithmically...

The National Commander has said, in public, to give it a rest...

The Region commanders have passed the word through their respective chains-of-command that it's not on any official radar at the moment AND said the MGen Carr is so annoyed with the topic that it is no longer an "appropriate subject for Ask The Commander." And that's a direct quote...

Right now, the odds of you, me or any other presently serving CAP member wearing officially sanctioned CAP ABUs are in the same vicinity as winning the Mega Millions, co-piloting a UFO or having dinner with Elvis.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: spacecommand on July 27, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
I think the title of this thread should be changed... ::)
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
alright. i understand that ppl tend to go on and on bout the ABU's but i was never told about that info. and yea im new to this place, but dude really your a sm bombing a cadet over a lil topic?
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on July 27, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
... if yall have any idea's about uniform changes (nametape,patches) then speak up.

We did speak up.  We were told to pipe down.

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Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: spacecommand on July 27, 2012, 10:42:34 PM
It has nothing to do with  a SM bombing a Cadet over a comment.  In addition, the title of this thread is VERYmisleading.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: abdsp51 on July 27, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
alright. i understand that ppl tend to go on and on bout the ABU's but i was never told about that info. and yea im new to this place, but dude really your a sm bombing a cadet over a lil topic?

Did you even ask your unit leadership about this?  Not knowing how new you are many questions can be answered at that level.  And since you know that you were addressing a SM "dude" is never an acceptable way to address a SM. 
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on July 27, 2012, 10:48:26 PM
Quote from: abdsp51 on July 27, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Did you even ask your unit leadership about this?  Not knowing how new you are many questions can be answered at that level.  And since you know that you were addressing a SM "dude" is never an acceptable way to address a SM.

Which is, of course, the FIRST place to ask.  It's called the "Chain Of Command."

And when you address a senior member, you say "sir," "ma'am" or rank for officers (including flight officers) and rank for NCO's.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 27, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
Since CAP is to switch to the ABU's eventually, why dont we change our nametapes as well? i like the blue field they have for the background, but the lettering colors should change. i was thinking a reflective lettering should replace it for GT purposes. or if yall have any idea's about uniform changes (nametape,patches) then speak up.

Son, in the Great State of Georgia, from where I hail and started my CAP career (SER-GA-065, DeKalb County Cadet Squadron, 1981-1986), you should know to put an apostrophe in y'all. Your misuse of the apostrophe is apparent all through your post. Now, I realize that the Georgia state school system isn't what it once was, but unless you grew up under a hay pile you should know that.  ;D

Please keep in mind that there are both seniors and cadets who read this board, and although customs and courtesies don't really apply here, you should really watch your tone.

And the ABU subject is the proverbial deceased equine mammal which continues to be beaten with an implement of destruction.

Now, having busted your chops on your grammar, I kind of like the idea of reflective lettering in the patches and name tapes, even for regular use on BDUs. It's a safety issue for me. I like reflective things for when I'm in the woods. However, I am thinking that unless you did it yourself, the cost to produce them would be prohibitive.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Extremepredjudice on July 27, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Why don't we all just get pink BDUs with a grey (with flames) beret, and neon purple boots?

I think it would look attractive...

(http://i.imgur.com/5ROmz.png)

Best I could do in 5 minutes...
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: caphornbuckle on July 27, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on July 27, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Why don't we all just get pink BDUs with a grey (with flames) beret, and neon purple boots?

I think it would look attractive...

(http://i.imgur.com/5ROmz.png)

Best I could do in 5 minutes...

At least no one could say it isn't distinctive! ;D
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 27, 2012, 11:49:15 PM
Quote from: caphornbuckle on July 27, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on July 27, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Why don't we all just get pink BDUs with a grey (with flames) beret, and neon purple boots?

I think it would look attractive...

(http://i.imgur.com/5ROmz.png)

Best I could do in 5 minutes...

At least no one could say it isn't distinctive! ;D

We could wear it to drill competition and do the routine from Monty Python's "And Now for Something Completely Different"
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: CAP4117 on July 28, 2012, 12:11:34 AM
I just rewatched that. Priceless... ;D
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: ol'fido on July 28, 2012, 03:42:05 AM
Quote from: Garibaldi on July 27, 2012, 11:49:15 PM
Quote from: caphornbuckle on July 27, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on July 27, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Why don't we all just get pink BDUs with a grey (with flames) beret, and neon purple boots?

I think it would look attractive...

(http://i.imgur.com/5ROmz.png)

Best I could do in 5 minutes...

At least no one could say it isn't distinctive! ;D

We could wear it to drill competition and do the routine from Monty Python's "And Now for Something Completely Different"
If I ever had to wear boots like that it would be more along the lines of "The Ministry of Funny Walks".
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: SarDragon on July 28, 2012, 04:04:58 AM
Luvin' the boots, and yesss, "The Ministry of Silly Walks"!
Title: Re: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: NIN on July 28, 2012, 12:30:18 PM
"I would like the ABUs."
Title: Re: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 28, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
Quote from: NIN on July 28, 2012, 12:30:18 PM
"I would like the ABUs."

I will not buy the ABUs. They are full of eels.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: The Bates on July 28, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
Sorry about my few disrespecting posts. and I will try my best to do better.

The reflective nametapes would help out GTM because it is hard to see the blue at night, and some of the vests just aren't enough
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Major Lord on July 28, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on July 27, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
Since CAP is to switch to the ABU's eventually, why dont we change our nametapes as well? i like the blue field they have for the background, but the lettering colors should change. i was thinking a reflective lettering should replace it for GT purposes. or if yall have any idea's about uniform changes (nametape,patches) then speak up.

Son, in the Great State of Georgia, from where I hail and started my CAP career (SER-GA-065, DeKalb County Cadet Squadron, 1981-1986), you should know to put an apostrophe in y'all. Your misuse of the apostrophe is apparent all through your post. Now, I realize that the Georgia state school system isn't what it once was, but unless you grew up under a hay pile you should know that.  ;D

Please keep in mind that there are both seniors and cadets who read this board, and although customs and courtesies don't really apply here, you should really watch your tone.

And the ABU subject is the proverbial deceased equine mammal which continues to be beaten with an implement of destruction.

Now, having busted your chops on your grammar, I kind of like the idea of reflective lettering in the patches and name tapes, even for regular use on BDUs. It's a safety issue for me. I like reflective things for when I'm in the woods. However, I am thinking that unless you did it yourself, the cost to produce them would be prohibitive.

Major,

As an expert on Georgia, I was wondering if you would clear up the unit of measurement called a "Mess" . It seems that  " A mess a' catfish" on a stringer, is a different value than   "A mess a' catfish" on a dinner plate. Is it the metric system? I spent a year on the ground in Louisiana after a little storm they had their a while back, and could never get this locked down. Also, if Y'all could tell a California boy where he could get fixed up with a mess of organic, low carb, soy grits, I would appreciate it. In the grocery stores do they have people handing out samples of just one grit so y'all can try one first? If they don't have Soy, Avocado Grits would be super! I was intrigued to see that the Chevron Stop and Rob markets in the south have those little foil wrapped taste treats ( hamburger, hot dog, etc) but saw one I have never seen in California on the menu; "Crawdad pie" (that was actually in Mississippi) it seems that the little crustaceans switch from being "crawdads" to "Crawfeesh" once you enter Louisiana!

Major Lord
P.s., besides the people who wee trying to kill me, death and destruction, and disease and suffering, I found I really loved the South and its people ( aside from the aforementioned "yoot" gangs who saw the opportunity to redraw their influence spheres when every sane person fled-those guys, not so much)
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Walkman on July 28, 2012, 03:05:28 PM
As a former Georgia resident myself, there's a distinct difference in the use of "y'all" and "all y'all". Y'all is common in speaking to a single person. All y'all is the more correct conjugation when referencing a mess of people.

And you don't "push" a button, you "mash" it.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Eclipse on July 28, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 28, 2012, 02:01:09 PMThe reflective nametapes would help out GTM because it is hard to see the blue at night, and some of the vests just aren't enough

Reflective nametapes are the worst idea since selling bread as a single unit.

They would ruin every photo taken with a flash (BTDT with a local unit who had reflective stitching in their insignia).

They would double-triple the cost of the nametapes because of the cost of the thread.

They would also be irrelevant because they'ed be under the safety vest, which is now required to be the top most garment.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Walkman on July 28, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: Major Lord on July 28, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
Also, if Y'all could tell a California boy where he could get fixed up with a mess of organic, low carb, soy grits, I would appreciate it. In the grocery stores do they have people handing out samples of just one grit so y'all can try one first? If they don't have Soy, Avocado Grits would be super!

LOL! Avacado grits!
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: ColonelJack on July 28, 2012, 03:58:27 PM
As a transplant TO Georgia (from Chicago, no less), I too have had many instances where the fineries of the language have eluded me.

For instance, as has been pointed out, "y'all" is singluar, while "all y'all" is plural.

"Grits" are a breakfast delicacy, but there's no such thing as a single "grit."

And whatever you do, don't ask for Cream of Wheat down here.  Just don't do it.  You will regret it.

Jack
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 28, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Major Lord on July 28, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on July 27, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Bates on July 27, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
Since CAP is to switch to the ABU's eventually, why dont we change our nametapes as well? i like the blue field they have for the background, but the lettering colors should change. i was thinking a reflective lettering should replace it for GT purposes. or if yall have any idea's about uniform changes (nametape,patches) then speak up.

Son, in the Great State of Georgia, from where I hail and started my CAP career (SER-GA-065, DeKalb County Cadet Squadron, 1981-1986), you should know to put an apostrophe in y'all. Your misuse of the apostrophe is apparent all through your post. Now, I realize that the Georgia state school system isn't what it once was, but unless you grew up under a hay pile you should know that.  ;D

Please keep in mind that there are both seniors and cadets who read this board, and although customs and courtesies don't really apply here, you should really watch your tone.

And the ABU subject is the proverbial deceased equine mammal which continues to be beaten with an implement of destruction.

Now, having busted your chops on your grammar, I kind of like the idea of reflective lettering in the patches and name tapes, even for regular use on BDUs. It's a safety issue for me. I like reflective things for when I'm in the woods. However, I am thinking that unless you did it yourself, the cost to produce them would be prohibitive.

Major,

As an expert on Georgia, I was wondering if you would clear up the unit of measurement called a "Mess" . It seems that  " A mess a' catfish" on a stringer, is a different value than   "A mess a' catfish" on a dinner plate. Is it the metric system? I spent a year on the ground in Louisiana after a little storm they had their a while back, and could never get this locked down. Also, if Y'all could tell a California boy where he could get fixed up with a mess of organic, low carb, soy grits, I would appreciate it. In the grocery stores do they have people handing out samples of just one grit so y'all can try one first? If they don't have Soy, Avocado Grits would be super! I was intrigued to see that the Chevron Stop and Rob markets in the south have those little foil wrapped taste treats ( hamburger, hot dog, etc) but saw one I have never seen in California on the menu; "Crawdad pie" (that was actually in Mississippi) it seems that the little crustaceans switch from being "crawdads" to "Crawfeesh" once you enter Louisiana!

Major Lord
P.s., besides the people who wee trying to kill me, death and destruction, and disease and suffering, I found I really loved the South and its people ( aside from the aforementioned "yoot" gangs who saw the opportunity to redraw their influence spheres when every sane person fled-those guys, not so much)

Aight. You should be aware that words have different meanings from state to state. A "mess" is anything other than a few or a heap. You can't make grits from just anything. Grits grow from a little known tree in South Georgia called a grits tree. You can pick a mess of grits from the grits tree and once they are done cooking you can pile a heap on your plate next to the catfish you caught, nailed to a tree and skinned. You gotta watch those fins and stingers though. Now, you commence to eating dinner (the midday meal; supper is the night time meal). Keep in mind that grabbing a bite to eat in Georgia is the same as getting a mouthful to eat in North Carolina.

Crawdads and crawfeesh are a Louisiana thing. We don't have much to do with them crazy Cajuns down Louisiana way. They put hot sauce on hot sauce. We can't figure it out either. We are working on an electric fence on the border between Arkansas and Louisiana, although we are fond of Popeye's up here so we may make an easement.

On the samples, no, there are not people handing out samples of a grit. There is no such unit of measure as a grit. There are grits, plural. You pick a mess of grits off'n the grits tree as I mentioned. Grits grow by the bunch.

Y'all is a group of more than two. You'uns/yowwens is also a group bigger than a y'all. Y'all can be used in the singular, but it's not considered proper with company. All y'all is a prelude to "can kiss my..." when being insulted.

Anything low-carb, low-calorie, soy or organic is frowned upon by the better class of redneck. Oh, speaking of, there are definite divisions of class in the south as well. It goes redneck, white trash, low-down white trash and hillbilly. Don't call a redneck a hillbilly unless you're spoiling for a fight.

And thus ends the quick class.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Major Lord on July 28, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
Excellent information! I will go to my local nursery and see if they can find a Grits tree for me ( there is one growing over by the CAP-ABU supply store I think) I have learned more about the south from you than any other source except "My Cousin Vinnie" which seems to primarily apply to Alabama. ( When you marry your sister, do they serve a Grits cake?) Oh, and sorry about that old, war of northern agresssion thing!

See Y'all!

Major Lord
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: jks19714 on July 28, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
I could never understand why they call emery cloth 80-grit when the consistency is nothing like the grits my Daddy cooked on Saturday mornings...  :o

Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: NIN on July 28, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
"Can you tell me how to get the digitals?"
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Al Sayre on July 29, 2012, 03:26:40 AM
Next time y'all are fixing to cook up a mess of catfish, try rolling them in uncooked grits, crunchy, and slap yo' mama good.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: AngelWings on July 29, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 29, 2012, 03:26:40 AM
Next time y'all are fixing to cook up a mess of catfish, try rolling them in uncooked grits, crunchy, and slap yo' mama good.
That sounds wicked disgusting. I think if I ate that I'd have to wash my mouth out at the bubbler, or throw up in the barrel. Yiz bettah try some clam chowdah, that's a wicked good meal. Then you gotta get yourself some ice cream and put some jimmies on it!
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 29, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on July 29, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 29, 2012, 03:26:40 AM
Next time y'all are fixing to cook up a mess of catfish, try rolling them in uncooked grits, crunchy, and slap yo' mama good.
That sounds wicked disgusting. I think if I ate that I'd have to wash my mouth out at the bubbler, or throw up in the barrel. Yiz bettah try some clam chowdah, that's a wicked good meal. Then you gotta get yourself some ice cream and put some jimmies on it!

Wouldn't that be a bubblah? As in, "I'd have to wash my mout out at the bubblah, or trow up in the barrel." Wait...not pronouncing the H is a Jersey thing. Ting. My bad.

And for the record, the ONLY way to cook a catfish is in cornmeal.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: AngelWings on July 29, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on July 29, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on July 29, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 29, 2012, 03:26:40 AM
Next time y'all are fixing to cook up a mess of catfish, try rolling them in uncooked grits, crunchy, and slap yo' mama good.
That sounds wicked disgusting. I think if I ate that I'd have to wash my mouth out at the bubbler, or throw up in the barrel. Yiz bettah try some clam chowdah, that's a wicked good meal. Then you gotta get yourself some ice cream and put some jimmies on it!

Wouldn't that be a bubblah? As in, "I'd have to wash my mout out at the bubblah, or trow up in the barrel." Wait...not pronouncing the H is a Jersey thing. Ting. My bad.

And for the record, the ONLY way to cook a catfish is in cornmeal.
Jersey, oh no, Jersey. Makes me think of the website "This ain't hell but I can see it from here"! (I'm joking, Jersey Wing members). They've happened to give hard working people of Italian descent such as myself a horrible reputation!
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: cap235629 on July 30, 2012, 02:07:39 AM
as a refugee of the Commonwealth of Taxachusetts, I take offense to your characterization of the proper pronunciation of American English.  I was sent south to deepen the gene pool and educate the heathens.  I also learned really quickly that though they may talk funny, politically they are right on the money....
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: Garibaldi on July 30, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
Quote from: cap235629 on July 30, 2012, 02:07:39 AM
as a refugee of the Commonwealth of Taxachusetts, I take offense to your characterization of the proper pronunciation of American English.  I was sent south to deepen the gene pool and educate the heathens.  I also learned really quickly that though they may talk funny, politically they are right on the money....

Hey, I know Bostonese. I listen to Cah Talk. And my former CC in WI's husband was from Bahstin.
Title: Re: Cap to switch to ABU's
Post by: EMT-83 on July 30, 2012, 02:21:58 AM
Boston: home of left turn on red, from right lane.