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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Flying Pig on June 05, 2012, 02:45:53 AM

Title: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: Flying Pig on June 05, 2012, 02:45:53 AM
I am in need of a competent pilot to ferry an Alarus from Huntsville TX to Fresno CA.  The sooner the better.  All expenses and fuel will be paid as well as return travel.   It would be nice very nice if this could be done with just covering fuel, travel and expenses, but owner is willing to negotiate a daily rate as well,  but please be reasonable.   

Please PM me ASAP if you are interested.  This airplane is not equipped for IFR flight, and it is expected by the owner that flights will only be done in the daylight.  He does not expect night flights out across the desert.  The plane is a 2002.  The pilot needs to provide their own travel to the aircraft in Huntsville.  Please PM me if you are interested. Please include your ratings, certificate number and total time.   The owner will only pay for one return ticket, but I don't think he is opposed to you bringing someone along as a second pilot (or just someone to keep you awake) as long as it doesn't have a unreasonable effect on performance. But that person will be responsible for all of their own expenses. 

Alarus experience is preferred, but if you dont have it, the owner has no issue with you meeting with the seller and getting some dual prior to heading out.


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Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: JeffDG on June 05, 2012, 04:08:21 AM
Those are fun planes!  Great in crosswinds with the full-size rudervator...I think the max demonstrated xwind for the Alarus is something like 27 knots or an insane number like that.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: bosshawk on June 05, 2012, 06:39:51 AM
Rob: call the flight school at Castle: they have a ton of those expendable airplanes.  One of their CFIs might be interested.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: Flying Pig on June 05, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
Thats option two.  I was hoping to offer it up to some struggling CAPer looking for 15 hrs of REAL xctry time. No takers so far.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: Check Pilot/Tow Pilot on June 05, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Sent PM.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: A.Member on June 06, 2012, 05:47:41 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on June 05, 2012, 02:45:53 AMI am in need of a competent pilot to ferry an Alarus from Huntsville TX to Fresno CA...

...This airplane is not equipped for IFR flight, and it is expected by the owner that flights will only be done in the daylight...

...Alarus experience is preferred, but if you dont have it, the owner has no issue with you meeting with the seller and getting some dual prior to heading out.

Quote from: Flying Pig on June 05, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
...  I was hoping to offer it up to some struggling CAPer looking for 15 hrs of REAL xctry time. No takers so far.
No offense, FP, but given your first set of comments above, that's probably a good thing.   

The part I particularly take issue with is the bold portion of your statement above.  Only persons currently checked out in this airplane should even be considered; this should be an absolute requirement, not a preference.  Asking someone that is not familar with the airplane to take a crash course, then hop in the airplane, fly it cross-country, through the mountains with no IFR capability, is a major problem waiting to happen. 

Just my $.02.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: simon on June 06, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
FP did say that the seller could provide some dual prior to the trip.

It's a simple aircraft and the ferry is daytime VFR over land. Pretty straightforward for a competent, sensible pilot.

The pilot should download the POH and read on the flight over, inspect the logs when there, do a thorough pre-flight with the owner, go for a flight in the left seat with the owner in the right and they should be good to go. At that point the pilot decides whether the aircraft is airworthy.

I've done ferry flights in models I've never been in before and felt perfectly safe. A half hour in the plane with a couple of landings should do it. Aside from that the airtime on the legs gives you an opportunity to get familiar with the layout.

Night, water crossings or IMC is different.

Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: PilotMaximus on June 08, 2012, 05:57:35 AM
Seems straight forward. Im guessing it performs similar to a 152 which is straightforward and simple.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: A.Member on June 08, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: simon on June 06, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
FP did say that the seller could provide some dual prior to the trip.

It's a simple aircraft and the ferry is daytime VFR over land. Pretty straightforward for a competent, sensible pilot.

The pilot should download the POH and read on the flight over, inspect the logs when there, do a thorough pre-flight with the owner, go for a flight in the left seat with the owner in the right and they should be good to go. At that point the pilot decides whether the aircraft is airworthy.

I've done ferry flights in models I've never been in before and felt perfectly safe. A half hour in the plane with a couple of landings should do it. Aside from that the airtime on the legs gives you an opportunity to get familiar with the layout.

Night, water crossings or IMC is different.
My intention is not to get into a huge discussion over the topic because I was just sharing my viewpoint.  I agree with your very last comment but I have to ask...do you have mountain flying experience?  It too is a bit different than flying through the plains of Texas, especially in an airplane that is unfamiliar.  The need to keep an eye on the weather through that flight path is ever more important given the time of year (severe storms pop up fast) especially considering the aircraft is not IFR capable.   

In my view, any applicant should have mountain flying experience and be familiar with the aircraft at a minimum (that's more than a glorified flight around the pattern - ie. "some dual").  Some may think my approach is overkill and that the request is not that big a deal.  Then again, I'm sure the FAA Accident Database can provide plenty of examples of people that shared a similar viewpoint.  It doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.   
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: bosshawk on June 09, 2012, 12:38:45 AM
I can vouch for Simon's being mountain qualified.  I was one of his instructors in the CAWG High Mountain Qualification Course.  And we have mountains higher than any incurred between Texas and CA.
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: Flying Pig on June 09, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
Mountains?  You mean the 10,000ft peaks we got assigned to search at 2 in the afternoon in August a few years back? ;D
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: bosshawk on June 09, 2012, 10:31:12 PM
Them's the ones.  You remember them well, don't you?  I really think that they were 12,000,  rather than 10,000
Title: Re: PILOT NEEDED ASAP-ATTENTION TX WING!!
Post by: Flying Pig on June 20, 2012, 12:40:21 AM
Gents...

Thank you all for your replies and interest.  However the owner has found a pilot local to where the plane is in TX.  Thanks.