are cadets allowed to wear a black bowtie with the blues for formal situations?
Quote from: nathan88 on April 26, 2012, 11:06:52 PM
are cadets allowed to wear a black bowtie with the blues for formal situations?
With a white dress shirt and no nameplate, yes.
The answer you seek is in CAPM 39-1: CIVIL AIR PATROL CAP MANUAL 39-1 NATIONAL ... (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=capm%2039-1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capmembers.com%2Fmedia%2Fcms%2Fm391_e6f33eaaec28a.pdf&ei=pNWZT7StEaGf6AGb18njBg&usg=AFQjCNHZxOR2FJJCJaHKFk0FFfAZMtl2LQ&sig2=QS_GNtP_mFN-VeqDhV6dlg)
If you have the OLD STYLE service coat you wear a bow tie, white shirt, no name plate.
If you have the NEW STYLE service coat you wear a regular tie, white shirt, no name plate.
CADETS only!
And only if your chain of command sets the uniform for that activity to permit semi-formal service dress. It's not appropriate for wear to your average squadron meeting or an activity where the uniform doesn't specifically say "semi-formal" or mess dress or something similarly formal. When in doubt, ask your chain of command first if it is appropriate to wear for the occasion.
i would love to be able to wear the bowie
yes you are. personally, i think it would look weird.. but that's just me. :P ;)
Not a fan of bow ties. But I have a new-style service coat, anyways.
Quote from: titanII on April 27, 2012, 12:00:10 AM
Not a fan of bow ties. But I have a new-style service coat, anyways.
New style?
Quote from: Sgt. Fischer on April 27, 2012, 12:02:22 AM
New style?
New style service coat: 3 buttons, 3 pockets
(http://www.uniforms-4u.com/Productimages/9957/big-u-us-air-force-officer-service-dress-uniform-12405.jpg)
Old style service coat: 4 buttons, 4 pockets
(http://usafflagranks.com/merrill_davis_burnside_files/image004.jpg)
Quote from: titanII on April 27, 2012, 12:14:45 AM
Quote from: Sgt. Fischer on April 27, 2012, 12:02:22 AM
New style?
New style service coat: 3 buttons, 3 pockets
(http://www.uniforms-4u.com/Productimages/9957/big-u-us-air-force-officer-service-dress-uniform-12405.jpg)
Old style service coat: 4 buttons, 4 pockets
(http://usafflagranks.com/merrill_davis_burnside_files/image004.jpg)
Okay! I have that style too!
Bow ties with the blues? Most of the bow ties I've met have been pretty happy... of course, I try to keep them away from harmonicas.
And, to be accurate, as in picky, the "old style service coat" does not have "4 buttons, 4 pockets." It has 10 buttons, 4 pockets.
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on May 18, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
And, to be accurate, as in picky, the "old style service coat" does not have "4 buttons, 4 pockets." It has 10 buttons, 4 pockets.
You got me there, Sir ;D.
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on May 18, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Bow ties with the blues? Most of the bow ties I've met have been pretty happy... of course, I try to keep them away from harmonicas.
And, to be accurate, as in picky, the "old style service coat" does not have "4 buttons, 4 pockets." It has 10 buttons, 4 pockets.
That's being pedantic.
The number of buttons in a coat's description almost always refers to the number in the front closure. The olde style is a 4-button. The new style is a 3-button. Pocket and sleeve buttons do not factor into the description, since in the civilian world, where these terms originated, the numbers are variable.
Just think of service coats as being named "Tony."
Old style: "Tony Nelson"
(http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/42e847189aa26/I-Dream-Of-Jeannie-TV-1965-costumes-wardrobe.jpg)
New style: "Modified Tony McPeak"
(http://www.uniforms-4u.com/Productimages/9957/big-u-us-air-force-officer-service-dress-uniform-12406.jpg)
;) ;D 8)
Quote from: SarDragon on May 18, 2012, 10:43:02 PM
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on May 18, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Bow ties with the blues? Most of the bow ties I've met have been pretty happy... of course, I try to keep them away from harmonicas.
And, to be accurate, as in picky, the "old style service coat" does not have "4 buttons, 4 pockets." It has 10 buttons, 4 pockets.
That's being pedantic.
Gosh! I thought that the pre-emptive self-admission of being "picky" would have negated the need to be called "pedantic."
I guess it's a matter of degrees. :)