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Title: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 14, 2012, 11:47:28 PM
Anyone seen this before?

http://images.magnetmail.net/images/clients/CivilAir/attach/HOMESCHOOLDEVELOFFJD2012.pdf (http://images.magnetmail.net/images/clients/CivilAir/attach/HOMESCHOOLDEVELOFFJD2012.pdf)
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: EMT-83 on April 15, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
... along with the postings for 3 other positions, yes.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: a2capt on April 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
When is the last time you went on eServices, CAPMembers.com, GoCiivilAirPatrol.com... or probably even got spammed by your Wing, Region or National HQ about it?
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: RADIOMAN015 on April 15, 2012, 12:54:59 AM
Notice on those job descriptions its' to implement...  "their (National) goals & visions".....

As far as the home school crowd, it appears that those teens do very well in CAP overall.   

RM
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
Quote from: a2capt on April 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
When is the last time you went on eServices, CAPMembers.com, GoCiivilAirPatrol.com... or probably even got spammed by your Wing, Region or National HQ about it?
I went on yesterday, but I never got an email from anyone.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: cadetesman on April 15, 2012, 02:30:10 AM
I don't think they need this, honestly. In my opinion, there are PLENTY of homeschoolers in CAP. I mean, at my encampment, myself and 4 others in my tent went to public school; we were in the minority!

I've also noticed the trend across CAP, too.

Reaching out to kids in traditional school should be a greater priority. The only way I found out about CAP was from the USAFA website list of things to do to prepare in high school. And it's mostly word of mouth, too.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: peter rabbit on April 15, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
Quote from: a2capt on April 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
When is the last time you went on eServices, CAPMembers.com, GoCiivilAirPatrol.com... or probably even got spammed by your Wing, Region or National HQ about it?
I went on yesterday, but I never got an email from anyone.

If you really want email about anything/everything, sign up for the RSS feeds. You'll get plenty as there are separate feeds for just about everything.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: peter rabbit on April 15, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
Quote from: a2capt on April 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
When is the last time you went on eServices, CAPMembers.com, GoCiivilAirPatrol.com... or probably even got spammed by your Wing, Region or National HQ about it?
I went on yesterday, but I never got an email from anyone.

If you really want email about anything/everything, sign up for the RSS feeds. You'll get plenty as there are separate feeds for just about everything.
I don't need another RSS feed...
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: davidsinn on April 15, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: peter rabbit on April 15, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
Quote from: a2capt on April 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
When is the last time you went on eServices, CAPMembers.com, GoCiivilAirPatrol.com... or probably even got spammed by your Wing, Region or National HQ about it?
I went on yesterday, but I never got an email from anyone.

If you really want email about anything/everything, sign up for the RSS feeds. You'll get plenty as there are separate feeds for just about everything.
I don't need another RSS feed...
The reason you never got the email is because you are not in a member class that is eligible to apply for the position.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 15, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: cadetesman on April 15, 2012, 02:30:10 AM
I don't think they need this, honestly. In my opinion, there are PLENTY of homeschoolers in CAP. I mean, at my encampment, myself and 4 others in my tent went to public school; we were in the minority!

I've also noticed the trend across CAP, too.

Reaching out to kids in traditional school should be a greater priority. The only way I found out about CAP was from the USAFA website list of things to do to prepare in high school. And it's mostly word of mouth, too.

You were in a tent?
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 15, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 15, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: cadetesman on April 15, 2012, 02:30:10 AM
I don't think they need this, honestly. In my opinion, there are PLENTY of homeschoolers in CAP. I mean, at my encampment, myself and 4 others in my tent went to public school; we were in the minority!

I've also noticed the trend across CAP, too.

Reaching out to kids in traditional school should be a greater priority. The only way I found out about CAP was from the USAFA website list of things to do to prepare in high school. And it's mostly word of mouth, too.

You were in a tent?
Yes sir, we were (we both attended the same encampment, not in same tent/flight though). They were junk. falling apart.... Some leaked, and there were holes in the bottom that sand came through.

One side of our tend flipped up in the middle of the night. No fun in winter...
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 16, 2012, 01:39:37 AM
This was an encampment or a bivouac?  Didn't know any wings had encampments that actually camped any more.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 16, 2012, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 16, 2012, 01:39:37 AM
This was an encampment or a bivouac?  Didn't know any wings had encampments that actually camped any more.
Encampment. We weren't camping though. They were semi-permanent tents set up by FLANG, REDHORSE. They had been there for more than ten years (I think someone said 1990 something)
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 16, 2012, 02:02:29 AM
Cool.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 16, 2012, 08:43:40 PM
Not from my encampment, the year before. Best pictures I could find...

inside the tents:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gaPWg3NoaSc/Tss3VMsoJpI/AAAAAAAABT4/Y1Rt_LbB1OE/s530/Winterenc0171.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WnazXWvmJT0/Tss3YHcnlCI/AAAAAAAABV4/nGjvnw6Wle8/w320-h213-k/Winterenc0176.jpg)

In the background (right side) you can see the tents.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zQv1oOZlfHw/Tss8sG9eCII/AAAAAAAACSk/saMsVJJAIH8/w275-h183-k/Winterenc0694.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 16, 2012, 08:52:26 PM
Neat - more modern than I pictured.  I'd love to have access to a facility like that.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 16, 2012, 09:01:25 PM
According to REDHORSE staff, we were the last people to use them.

The one in the picture is the nice one. The others were shredded....
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: titanII on April 18, 2012, 03:17:43 AM
Wait, so you guys slept on cots?
That would mean you missed out on the fun of hospital corners!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Extremepredjudice on April 18, 2012, 03:21:39 AM
Quote from: titanII on April 18, 2012, 03:17:43 AM
Wait, so you guys slept on cots?
That would mean you missed out on the fun of hospital corners!!!!
Yeah, we did.

They (at least the ones in our barracks) would snap apart randomly, and they weren't much fun putting back together.

Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: titanII on April 18, 2012, 03:28:29 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 18, 2012, 03:21:39 AM
Yeah, we did.
They (at least the ones in our barracks) would snap apart randomly, and they weren't much fun putting back together.
But still! No 45 degree hospital corners! No six-inch folds, one foot from the end of the bed! That's like, a key part of the Encampment experience!
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 18, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Quote from: titanII on April 18, 2012, 03:28:29 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on April 18, 2012, 03:21:39 AM
Yeah, we did.
They (at least the ones in our barracks) would snap apart randomly, and they weren't much fun putting back together.
But still! No 45 degree hospital corners! No six-inch folds, one foot from the end of the bed! That's like, a key part of the Encampment experience!

Once you master the duct-taped bunk, it's all "meh".
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: titanII on April 18, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 18, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Once you master the duct-taped bunk, it's all "meh".
What on earth is a duct taped bunk?
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 18, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: titanII on April 18, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 18, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Once you master the duct-taped bunk, it's all "meh".
What on earth is a duct taped bunk?

Just what it sounds like. I don't have the picture handy, but I'm sure Eclipse has one of a Navy Chief bouncing a challenge coin on it.

Of course two other Petty Officers were wise, and tried to see how the sheets look like under the blanket, which made the whole mattress come up from the bed. Once back down, the bunk looked good as new though.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: titanII on April 18, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 18, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Just what it sounds like. I don't have the picture handy, but I'm sure Eclipse has one of a Navy Chief bouncing a challenge coin on it.

Of course two other Petty Officers were wise, and tried to see how the sheets look like under the blanket, which made the whole mattress come up from the bed. Once back down, the bunk looked good as new though.
So the sheets are duct-taped to the bed? I'm still not really getting it.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 18, 2012, 10:28:35 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 18, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: titanII on April 18, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 18, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Once you master the duct-taped bunk, it's all "meh".
What on earth is a duct taped bunk?

Just what it sounds like. I don't have the picture handy, but I'm sure Eclipse has one of a Navy Chief bouncing a challenge coin on it.

Was that 2006 or 2007?

Trying to find it.

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7185/treo51623apr06.jpg)

Response:

"One of the nicest racks I've seen in a while..."

and then

"Whatever works..."
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
I HATED those racks. Had the displeasure of sleeping in them for three years, and don't ever want to do it again. Having a top rack made things a little better for comfort, but the middles were a little easier to make up.

It is the most difficult bed I have ever had to put sheets on, because access to the back edge is almost non-existent. Fortunately, the inspections involved were never as stringent as what you might have at an encampment. As long as the sheets were clean, and tucked in reasonably well, it was OK.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 18, 2012, 10:48:02 PM

The two Petty Officers also specified they probably wouldn't let their recruits do it...but they found it quite fascinating.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Spaceman3750 on April 18, 2012, 10:51:57 PM
WIWAC I went to Illinois Summer Encampment 2006 at Marseilles Training Center... If I recall they were chastising cadets who were making their bunk then sleeping on top (I think I did that but it apparently went unnoticed), so we definitely wouldn't have gotten away with a duck tape rack.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 18, 2012, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on April 18, 2012, 10:51:57 PM
WIWAC I went to Illinois Summer Encampment 2006 at Marseilles Training Center... If I recall they were chastising cadets who were making their bunk then sleeping on top (I think I did that but it apparently went unnoticed), so we definitely wouldn't have gotten away with a duck tape rack.

We were able to acquire extra blankets. :)
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 18, 2012, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on April 18, 2012, 10:51:57 PM
WIWAC I went to Illinois Summer Encampment 2006 at Marseilles Training Center... If I recall they were chastising cadets who were making their bunk then sleeping on top (I think I did that but it apparently went unnoticed), so we definitely wouldn't have gotten away with a duck tape rack.

We just pull the sheets after inspection - if they still want to sleep on top, whatever, but the rack ain't spec no mo'.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Eclipse on April 18, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
I HATED those racks. Had the displeasure of sleeping in them for three years, and don't ever want to do it again. Having a top rack made things a little better for comfort, but the middles were a little easier to make up.

It is the most difficult bed I have ever had to put sheets on, because access to the back edge is almost non-existent. Fortunately, the inspections involved were never as stringent as what you might have at an encampment. As long as the sheets were clean, and tucked in reasonably well, it was OK.

I'm assuming you mean aboard a ship?  We're told that the ones on the RTC are actually a bit larger than the "real" ones.  They are a pain to make since
the blanket slides on the steel, and there's no way to pull it tight from the bottom (though no flags to tuck, either).  We had the old-style until mid-2004
and have been in new ships ever since.

Did you use the canteen trick?
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: Al Sayre on April 18, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
I HATED those racks. Had the displeasure of sleeping in them for three years, and don't ever want to do it again. Having a top rack made things a little better for comfort, but the middles were a little easier to make up.

It is the most difficult bed I have ever had to put sheets on, because access to the back edge is almost non-existent. Fortunately, the inspections involved were never as stringent as what you might have at an encampment. As long as the sheets were clean, and tucked in reasonably well, it was OK.

Ditto, and If you get the bottom, everyone steps on your nice clean rack with their nasty feet and sticks their butt in your space while they get dressed... the only positive is you're a lot less likely to break something if you get tossed out during bad weather.  Fortunately most of the top racks had "seat belts"...
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 11:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 18, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
I HATED those racks. Had the displeasure of sleeping in them for three years, and don't ever want to do it again. Having a top rack made things a little better for comfort, but the middles were a little easier to make up.

It is the most difficult bed I have ever had to put sheets on, because access to the back edge is almost non-existent. Fortunately, the inspections involved were never as stringent as what you might have at an encampment. As long as the sheets were clean, and tucked in reasonably well, it was OK.

I'm assuming you mean aboard a ship?  We're told that the ones on the RTC are actually a bit larger than the "real" ones.  They are a pain to make since
the blanket slides on the steel, and there's no way to pull it tight from the bottom (though no flags to tuck, either).  We had the old-style until mid-2004
and have been in new ships ever since.

Did you use the canteen trick?

The ones in the pic look different than what I slept in, but that was 30 years ago. The newer versions might be what you have in G'Lakes.

Don't know nuttin' 'bout no canteens.
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: bflynn on April 18, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 18, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
I HATED those racks. Had the displeasure of sleeping in them for three years, and don't ever want to do it again. Having a top rack made things a little better for comfort, but the middles were a little easier to make up.

Yeah, those racks are HUGE!  I can't believe all the space!

Try one of theses (mine was in the middle).
Title: Re: Anyone seen this?
Post by: SarDragon on April 19, 2012, 12:36:27 AM
Yup, that's it. Being on a bird farm, we had more room between the racks in some of the compartments, depending on the allowable layout.