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Cadet Programs => Encampments & NCSAs => Topic started by: Supply SGT on March 07, 2012, 02:02:07 PM

Title: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Supply SGT on March 07, 2012, 02:02:07 PM
What is Hawk Mountain Ranger School like? Since i can not go to NBB, i have been looking into this:)
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 02:21:10 PM
Application time passed.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: jeders on March 07, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
I hate to say it, but the application deadline for all NCSAs passed in January.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
It looks as if your best bet is to attend your encampment this summer and get with your leadership to position yourself to accomplish your goals for NCSAs next year.

Here are some websites you may want to peruse between now and the fall:

NCSAs: http://ncsas.com/ (http://ncsas.com/)
Hawk Mountain: http://www.pawingcap.com/hawk/ (http://www.pawingcap.com/hawk/)
Hawk Mountain Information on CAP KB: http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1060/kw/hawk%20mountain (http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1060/kw/hawk%20mountain)

I am somewhat dismayed that your leadership did not keep you posted as to the application deadlines for NCSAs. They are fairly well publicized.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: jeders on March 07, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
I hate to say it, but the application deadline for all NCSAs passed in January.
I think NESA might still be open...
NESA is still open, Nesa.cap.gov.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: jeders on March 07, 2012, 02:57:58 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: jeders on March 07, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
I hate to say it, but the application deadline for all NCSAs passed in January.
I think NESA might still be open...
I believe you are correct.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: davidsinn on March 07, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
They are fairly well publicized.
Yes they are.
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I am somewhat dismayed that your leadership did not keep you posted as to the application deadlines for NCSAs.

I wish cadets would take more responsibility for their own careers. Why should the leadership be responsible for spoon feeding the info when every cadet should have an eServices account?
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: EMT-83 on March 07, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
It's not just cadets that expect to be spoon fed.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on March 07, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
It's not just cadets that expect to be spoon fed.

I don't disagree, but I also don't think making an announcement 8 weeks out and 4 weeks out is spoonfeeding.

Additionally, if you expect cadets (and many adults) to be totally proactive and self-sufficient, then I would imagine you live a very frustrated life.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Eclipse on March 07, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
There are a lot of commanders who have no interest whatsoever in encouraging attendance in outside activities.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on March 07, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
There are a lot of commanders who have no interest whatsoever in encouraging attendance in outside activities.

That is unfortunate.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: davidsinn on March 07, 2012, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on March 07, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
It's not just cadets that expect to be spoon fed.

I don't disagree, but I also don't think making an announcement 8 weeks out and 4 weeks out is spoonfeeding.

Additionally, if you expect cadets (and many adults) to be totally proactive and self-sufficient, then I would imagine you live a very frustrated life.

I do. I also get pissed off when I make announcements and then get complaints when they miss the deadline because they didn't write it down.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on March 07, 2012, 03:46:24 PM
Quote from: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on March 07, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
It's not just cadets that expect to be spoon fed.

I don't disagree, but I also don't think making an announcement 8 weeks out and 4 weeks out is spoonfeeding.

Additionally, if you expect cadets (and many adults) to be totally proactive and self-sufficient, then I would imagine you live a very frustrated life.

I do. I also get pissed off when I make announcements and then get complaints when they miss the deadline because they didn't write it down.

I wouldn't even get upset then. I would just tell them, "Too bad, so sad." After the announcements are made, the onus is on them.

At that point, I agree with you.  Treat them as adults and expect them to act that way.

In the case here, though, the cadet seems to be totally out of the loop.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Thrashed on March 07, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
You can still go to Hawk. They will take you if you show up with the proper paperwork on the first day. Just contact them now. Tell them you want to go. Send in the paperwork. No interview needed. Go to their website.
Make sure you bring your SQTR's and get them signed as you train. Bring tick spray. I call it "Tick Mountain".
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Thrashed on March 07, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
You can still go to Hawk. They will take you if you show up with the proper paperwork on the first day. Just contact them now. Tell them you want to go. Send in the paperwork. No interview needed. Go to their website.
Make sure you bring your SQTR's and get them signed as you train. Bring tick spray. I call it "Tick Mountain".
WHAAAT? seriously? cite please  :o

They'd be swarming with people then...
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: lordmonar on March 07, 2012, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Thrashed on March 07, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
You can still go to Hawk. They will take you if you show up with the proper paperwork on the first day. Just contact them now. Tell them you want to go. Send in the paperwork. No interview needed. Go to their website.
Make sure you bring your SQTR's and get them signed as you train. Bring tick spray. I call it "Tick Mountain".
WHAAAT? seriously? cite please  :o

They'd be swarming with people then...
They get a lot of people drop out between now and then.

I don't think Thrashed meant that you could just show up cold.....but that you can apply right up the the start date.

For the OP.....you are a little behind the curve....but apply anyways if you want to.  If you don't get a slot....try for NESA....they have just opened the applications and also take people right up to the last minute.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: Supply SGT on March 07, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
Its not that im totaly out of the loop, its that i recently joined C.A.P. to help me with my leadership and military bearing because next summer i leave for Marine Corps bootcamp. Im not making excuses, im just saying that not all squadrons announce when the NCSA deadlines are.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: FlyTiger77 on March 07, 2012, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: Supply SGT on March 07, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
Im not making excuses, im just saying that not all squadrons announce when the NCSA deadlines are.

Ok, I will revise my comment: It seems like the cadet is totally mostly out of the loop.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: NCRblues on March 07, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
10 : 1 odds say that the kid has a Facebook... So if he has that, im sure he can find NCSA . com and take a look for himself...

Reminding cadets once should be enough. Tell them the web site, or tell them to Google it.

You might have to remind SM's a little more  >:D
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: sarmed1 on March 08, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on March 07, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Thrashed on March 07, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
You can still go to Hawk. They will take you if you show up with the proper paperwork on the first day. Just contact them now. Tell them you want to go. Send in the paperwork. No interview needed. Go to their website.
Make sure you bring your SQTR's and get them signed as you train. Bring tick spray. I call it "Tick Mountain".
WHAAAT? seriously? cite please  :o

They'd be swarming with people then...

They usually accept people up until about the end of June; after that there usually has to be some extenuating circumstances.  You must have all your appropriate signatures; show up without a wing commander signature and you will go home that day (no matter when you applied).  Some wings will require you to apply within their NCSA guidelines no matter that the activity (HMRS or NESA for that matter) accepts application up until the start of the school......there is nothing the activity can do about that.

mk
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: lordmonar on March 08, 2012, 03:14:03 PM
Quote from: Supply SGT on March 07, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
Its not that im totaly out of the loop, its that i recently joined C.A.P. to help me with my leadership and military bearing because next summer i leave for Marine Corps bootcamp. Im not making excuses, im just saying that not all squadrons announce when the NCSA deadlines are.
Well in your case....you are not eligible for most of the NCSA's anyway.  You need to focus on getting your encampment done.
Title: Re: Hawk Mountain
Post by: CamoMan on March 10, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
Quick question after we send in the supplemental application how long until we get notified if we were accepted?