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Title: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: cadetesman on February 01, 2012, 01:25:16 AM
Hello, I was just wondering, for my own interest, out of every squadron in CAP, which is the largest, and which is the smallest.

Couldn't find this anywhere, so thanks!
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: davidsinn on February 01, 2012, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: cadetesman on February 01, 2012, 01:25:16 AM
Hello, I was just wondering, for my own interest, out of every squadron in CAP, which is the largest, and which is the smallest.

Couldn't find this anywhere, so thanks!

Largest is Anderson Preparatory academy in INWG.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: titanII on February 01, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
I doubt that you will be able to find the "smallest squadron" very easily. I don't think that they, and CAP at large, would want to advertise that. Also, the smallest unit would probably be a Flight- not a Squadron.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Spaceman3750 on February 01, 2012, 02:17:23 AM
The smallest unit is probably a group headquarters unit - my group only has three members assigned with a couple others doing additional duty.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: titanII on February 01, 2012, 02:41:02 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on February 01, 2012, 02:17:23 AM
The smallest unit is probably a group headquarters unit - my group only has three members assigned with a couple others doing additional duty.
Oh, good point. I didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Eclipse on February 01, 2012, 04:14:53 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on February 01, 2012, 01:29:52 AM
Quote from: cadetesman on February 01, 2012, 01:25:16 AM
Hello, I was just wondering, for my own interest, out of every squadron in CAP, which is the largest, and which is the smallest.

Couldn't find this anywhere, so thanks!

Largest is Anderson Preparatory academy in INWG.

Good on 'ye for the raw numbers, but it needs to be said that this is not a traditional squadron.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Extremepredjudice on February 01, 2012, 04:18:17 AM
How many are in that squadron? 400 something?
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: ol'fido on February 01, 2012, 04:19:10 AM
Asking which "squadron" is the smallest seems kind of pointless when CAP sets the minimum number for a squadron at 15 and I imagine there are quite a few of those. Now if you mean any unit, at one time ILWG Group 1 before it moved south consisted of one officer, then LtCol Fred Rosenberg who is now the GLR CV-Support.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: lordmonar on February 01, 2012, 08:26:03 AM
Isn't there only one person in the NESA squadron?
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Extremepredjudice on February 01, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
No. Ed and the cc, at least...
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: SarDragon on February 01, 2012, 09:29:26 AM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on February 01, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
No. Ed and the cc, at least...

Ed who? IIRC, you're a cadet. If so, your referring to an apparent an SM on a first name basis seems inappropriate.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Larry Mangum on February 01, 2012, 01:48:28 PM
The largest squadron I believe is in COWG. It is a composite squadron with I think 200 cadets and over 100 seniors. The commander was my roomate at NSC this year.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: sardak on February 01, 2012, 03:12:22 PM
The largest squadron in COWG has 99 cadets and 63 seniors. #2 has 98 cadets and 28 seniors. There is one senior squadron with 15 members and a group HQ with 2.

Mike
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: SKI304 on February 01, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
In terms of cadets, as of this morning here are the 20 largest cadet units:




RankCharterUnit NameCadets
1GLR-IN-803Anderson Prep Academy Cadet Squadron255



















2SWR-TX-802Sheldon Cadet Squadron249
3RMR-CO-147Thompson Valley Composite Squadron99
4RMR-CO-030Colorado Springs Cadet Squadron98
5MER-VA-117Leesburg Composite Squadron97
6SWR-AZ-013Deer Valley Composite Squadron 30293
7RMR-CO-159Air Academy Cadet Squadron91
7SER-GA-112Gwinnett County Composite Squadron91
9MER-MD-071Bethesda Chevy Chase Composite Squadron88
10MER-VA-060Southside Composite Squadron81
10NER-NY-273Rochester Composite Squadron81
12SER-FL-051Charlotte County Composite Squadron78
13SER-GA-116Peachtree City Falcon Field Composite Squadron77
14MER-NC-048Raleigh-Wake Composite Squadron75
14PCR-CA-273Eugene L. Carnahan Cadet Squadron 8575
16SER-GA-014Griffin Composite Squadron74
17NCR-KS-802Southeast Composite Squadron73
17NCR-MN-021Anoka Composite Squadron73
19SER-FL-809Barrington Middle School Cadet Squadron72
20GLR-OH-051Youngstown ARS Composite Squadron69

There are quite a few cadet units with one cadet each, so those would tie as the smallest.

You can find the total number of cadets and seniors as of January 2012 on the Quality Cadet Unit Data Spreadsheet (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/2011_Unit_Data_15CEA77F35A10.xls).
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: JeffDG on February 01, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
Based on that, the median unit has 20 Cadets and 16 Seniors
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: jimmydeanno on February 01, 2012, 09:41:23 PM
It's neat to see those numbers, and at the same time kind of disappointing.  Two of the units that I helped turn around would have been #2 and #3 on that list.  A few years later, they're still strong and probably within the top 10%. 

The unit I'm commander of, right now, is steadily moving to bump #20 off the list in the next few months.  We're within a few members.

However, it makes you realize that most units are pathetically small, and that most of our cadets are not getting the full benefit of the program, especially past the Mitchell. 
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Eclipse on February 01, 2012, 09:59:54 PM
Let's also not forget that there is a difference between "on the roster" and "active".

IMHO NHQ should require that attendance rosters be entered into eServices and QCA and similar be based on people who actually show up,
not just who write a check.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: titanII on February 01, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 01, 2012, 09:59:54 PM
Let's also not forget that there is a difference between "on the roster" and "active".
+1. HUGE difference
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: LC on February 02, 2012, 04:06:06 AM
#6 is my squadron!


Quote from: SKI304 on February 01, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
In terms of cadets, as of this morning here are the 20 largest cadet units:




RankCharterUnit NameCadets
1GLR-IN-803Anderson Prep Academy Cadet Squadron255



















2SWR-TX-802Sheldon Cadet Squadron249
3RMR-CO-147Thompson Valley Composite Squadron99
4RMR-CO-030Colorado Springs Cadet Squadron98
5MER-VA-117Leesburg Composite Squadron97
6SWR-AZ-013Deer Valley Composite Squadron 30293
7RMR-CO-159Air Academy Cadet Squadron91
7SER-GA-112Gwinnett County Composite Squadron91
9MER-MD-071Bethesda Chevy Chase Composite Squadron88
10MER-VA-060Southside Composite Squadron81
10NER-NY-273Rochester Composite Squadron81
12SER-FL-051Charlotte County Composite Squadron78
13SER-GA-116Peachtree City Falcon Field Composite Squadron77
14MER-NC-048Raleigh-Wake Composite Squadron75
14PCR-CA-273Eugene L. Carnahan Cadet Squadron 8575
16SER-GA-014Griffin Composite Squadron74
17NCR-KS-802Southeast Composite Squadron73
17NCR-MN-021Anoka Composite Squadron73
19SER-FL-809Barrington Middle School Cadet Squadron72
20GLR-OH-051Youngstown ARS Composite Squadron69

There are quite a few cadet units with one cadet each, so those would tie as the smallest.

You can find the total number of cadets and seniors as of January 2012 on the Quality Cadet Unit Data Spreadsheet (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/2011_Unit_Data_15CEA77F35A10.xls).
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: Extremepredjudice on February 02, 2012, 04:21:31 AM
What about senior squadrons?
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: commando1 on February 02, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: LC on February 02, 2012, 04:06:06 AM
#6 is my squadron!


Quote from: SKI304 on February 01, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
In terms of cadets, as of this morning here are the 20 largest cadet units:




RankCharterUnit NameCadets
1GLR-IN-803Anderson Prep Academy Cadet Squadron255



















2SWR-TX-802Sheldon Cadet Squadron249
3RMR-CO-147Thompson Valley Composite Squadron99
4RMR-CO-030Colorado Springs Cadet Squadron98
5MER-VA-117Leesburg Composite Squadron97
6SWR-AZ-013Deer Valley Composite Squadron 30293
7RMR-CO-159Air Academy Cadet Squadron91
7SER-GA-112Gwinnett County Composite Squadron91
9MER-MD-071Bethesda Chevy Chase Composite Squadron88
10MER-VA-060Southside Composite Squadron81
10NER-NY-273Rochester Composite Squadron81
12SER-FL-051Charlotte County Composite Squadron78
13SER-GA-116Peachtree City Falcon Field Composite Squadron77
14MER-NC-048Raleigh-Wake Composite Squadron75
14PCR-CA-273Eugene L. Carnahan Cadet Squadron 8575
16SER-GA-014Griffin Composite Squadron74
17NCR-KS-802Southeast Composite Squadron73
17NCR-MN-021Anoka Composite Squadron73
19SER-FL-809Barrington Middle School Cadet Squadron72
20GLR-OH-051Youngstown ARS Composite Squadron69

There are quite a few cadet units with one cadet each, so those would tie as the smallest.

You can find the total number of cadets and seniors as of January 2012 on the Quality Cadet Unit Data Spreadsheet (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/2011_Unit_Data_15CEA77F35A10.xls).
You and 92 others'... ;)
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: RADIOMAN015 on February 03, 2012, 04:55:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 01, 2012, 09:59:54 PM
Let's also not forget that there is a difference between "on the roster" and "active".

IMHO NHQ should require that attendance rosters be entered into eServices and QCA and similar be based on people who actually show up,
not just who write a check.
Well what is the definition of an 'active' cadet member in Civil Air Patrol ???  Basically they have to be progressing, now how fast they must progress is up to the individual unit's interpretation :-\.

Also for those units that have 50+ cadets, where do they even fit them in IF they all show up ??? :-\

As far as inputing attendance into a data base, some units do that on the cadet side.  I know at once time we we were looking at a bar code reader which would allow both cadets & seniors to swipe their appropriate ID card and that would build the attendance roster for that evening.

RM 
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: GroundHawg on February 03, 2012, 05:00:26 PM

Also for those units that have 50+ cadets, where do they even fit them in IF they all show up ??? :-\




Thats a problem I wish my squadron had....
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: jimmydeanno on February 03, 2012, 08:30:39 PM
My units that had that many cadets and just as many seniors had plenty of space.  The first met in an old youth center, to the tune of 4k sq ft, provided free of charge.  The second was in a maintenance hangar.

My unit now is getting cramped, but there is already a plan in the works to get us into a 6k sq ft facility, but it needs to be renovated first.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: wuzafuzz on February 03, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on February 03, 2012, 05:00:26 PM

Also for those units that have 50+ cadets, where do they even fit them in IF they all show up ??? :-\




Thats a problem I wish my squadron had....
I'm a member of Thompson Valley Composite Squadron; we meet at the Colorado State University ROTC buildings in Fort Collins.  Although we can fit a lot of people in there...we can't fit in one room at a time.  Sometimes we are able to use other facilities on campus, such as big lecture halls, when there are special meetings or presentations.

CO-147 Stats
Cadets in your Unit: 100
Seniors in your Unit: 64
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: CoffeeMan on May 22, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
I am from AR115th. We have 81 cadets right now.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: CoffeeMan on May 31, 2012, 03:19:17 AM
We just had 3 more cadets in 1 week. And since January we have had over 35 cadets. I have been a Airman since Jan 24th, Now I am a C/SrAmn.
Title: Re: Largest/Smallest squadrons
Post by: krnlpanick on May 31, 2012, 05:54:19 AM
Quote from: wuzafuzz on February 03, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
I'm a member of Thompson Valley Composite Squadron; we meet at the Colorado State University ROTC buildings in Fort Collins.  Although we can fit a lot of people in there...we can't fit in one room at a time.  Sometimes we are able to use other facilities on campus, such as big lecture halls, when there are special meetings or presentations.

CO-147 Stats
Cadets in your Unit: 100
Seniors in your Unit: 64

What is your attendance like in that Squadron? Do you actually have 100 cadets showing up to every meeting?