These are somewhat CAP history but mostly opinions, so may be the wrong category.
1. What do you believe the impact of CAP cadet programs is now and/or when you first joined, on the general community, if any?
2. What impact do you see CAP making on cadets, not only during CAP, but in life and general community?
3. If you were a cadet in CAP at any point, what change did the cadet programs make in your life?
4.What do you personally consider the most revolutionary part/idea of CAP cadet programs? (now and when you first joined?)
4.What do you personally consider the most revolutionary part/idea of CAP cadet programs? (now and when you first joined?)
Now: Watching the light turn on in some cadet's face when they finally "get it".
Then: Female cadets.
1. It kept me from becoming a young hoodlum and a danger to my community, state, and nation.
3. See 1 above
;D
3. I look at peoples shoes and think "I can/can't polish that" 8)
4. When I joined: my friend that invited me
Now: honor guard
Quote from: maurer172 on January 31, 2012, 01:57:48 AM
1. What do you believe the impact of CAP cadet programs is now and/or when you first joined, on the general community, if any?
Over all....next to none.
Quote2. What impact do you see CAP making on cadets, not only during CAP, but in life and general community?
For the majority of people who have ever been cadets....next to nothing. For those who spend significat time and energy in CAP....the learn organisation, responsibility, citizenship, leadership.
Quote3. If you were a cadet in CAP at any point, what change did the cadet programs make in your life?
Was not a CAP cadet...but was a Boy Scout and a AFJROTC/AFROTC cadet.....and the goals are the same in all these organisation. I learned that there is a support network that gets the individual positioned to use his/her own efforts to make great things happen. No one ever won the war by themselves.
Quote4.What do you personally consider the most revolutionary part/idea of CAP cadet programs? (now and when you first joined?)
Nothing....there is nothing revolutionary in anything CAP teaches....the goals and methods are as old as the hills.
The cadet program kept me grounded during what was a very stressful period in my life. I see it doing the same thing these days for the cadets of this era. I'm of that era, 1966 to 1971.
As far as value, one only has to look at where some of the former cadets have gone in their lives. There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman, numerous military officers and professional aviators, business leaders, one Congresswoman, and numerous others who work as state leglature or federal legislature staffers. I know personally that the government relations director for US Air is a former cadet.
Certainly there are those who may not have been as successful, but the bottom line for cadets and the senior leadership who guide them, is that we tend to provide a sort of compass that points a path to follow in the achievement of goals and ambitions.
That's a good thing.
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 31, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman,
Wrong. The Spaatz was created in 1964. Borman was selected as an astronaut in 1962. AKAIK the only Spaatz astronaut is Eric Boe.
Quote from: davidsinn on January 31, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 31, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman,
Wrong. The Spaatz was created in 1964. Borman was selected as an astronaut in 1962. AKAIK the only Spaatz astronaut is Eric Boe.
Frank Borman's only connection to CAP was allowing his name to be used for the former "Falcon Award".
Quote from: davidsinn on January 31, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 31, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman,
Wrong. The Spaatz was created in 1964. Borman was selected as an astronaut in 1962. AKAIK the only Spaatz astronaut is Eric Boe.
The first one was awarded in 1964. It was actually introduced in 1963. It's an entry block on my Sep 1963 CAPF 66.
Quote from: SarDragon on February 01, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on January 31, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 31, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman,
Wrong. The Spaatz was created in 1964. Borman was selected as an astronaut in 1962. AKAIK the only Spaatz astronaut is Eric Boe.
The first one was awarded in 1964. It was actually introduced in 1963. It's an entry block on my Sep 1963 CAPF 66.
OK. Point is; Borman was riding rockets before the Spaatz came around.
Douglas Roach earned the first Spaatz Award in November 1964. Frank Borman's first flight (commander of Gemini 7) was in December 1965.
Quote from: SarDragon on February 01, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
The first one was awarded in 1964. It was actually introduced in 1963. It's an entry block on my Sep 1963 CAPF 66.
Still using that jacket in your personnel file today? 'Cause that's pretty awesome. 8)
Quote from: Pylon on February 01, 2012, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 01, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
The first one was awarded in 1964. It was actually introduced in 1963. It's an entry block on my Sep 1963 CAPF 66.
Still using that jacket in your personnel file today? 'Cause that's pretty awesome. 8)
Not the whole thing, but there are excerpts that validate my first joined date (I have broken service), my cadet encampment, my Mitchell, and one or two other things.
Quote from: davidsinn on February 01, 2012, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 01, 2012, 06:55:19 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on January 31, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 31, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
There are at least three astronauts beginning with a Spaatz cadet named Frank Borman,
Wrong. The Spaatz was created in 1964. Borman was selected as an astronaut in 1962. AKAIK the only Spaatz astronaut is Eric Boe.
The first one was awarded in 1964. It was actually introduced in 1963. It's an entry block on my Sep 1963 CAPF 66.
OK. Point is; Borman was riding rockets before the Spaatz came around.
I wasn't disputing anything regarding Borman. I simply clarified when the Spaatz was introduced.
FWIW, with a birth year of 1928, Borman was barely young enough to have been a CAP cadet during WWII.
I'll bite...
1. What do you believe the impact of CAP cadet programs is now and/or when you first joined, on the general community, if any?-On the general community? Very little. I don't think there is a lot of people who know about CAP. I think you have pockets about the country where CAP is big, but that is the exception versus the norm. Having been a cadet back in 1990, I don't see a change. In fact I think the impact may have decreased.
2. What impact do you see CAP making on cadets, not only during CAP, but in life and general community?-For the O2 thieves, the cadets who don't progress, little to nothing. But to those who apply themselves, I believe the cadet program betters that person making them more prepared for adult life. However, you could say that would more prepared because they do apply themselves and it wouldn't matter if it was CAP, Boy Scouts, Sports, you name it.
3. If you were a cadet in CAP at any point, what change did the cadet programs make in your life?-I knew I was going to join the military. CAP just confirmed that. It also contributed a great deal to my personality. I don't think I ever had a problem expressing myself, but I certainly became more extroverted because of CAP. Wisconsin Cadet Academy changed me a lot. Showed me you could do whatever you wanted no matter where you came from. (Obviously within reason as I am not running for President anytime soon ;P )
4.What do you personally consider the most revolutionary part/idea of CAP cadet programs? (now and when you first joined?)-Encampment. Say what you want and call me a softy. But you put 24 kids through a week of stressing activity while teaching them a positive message in the process. You have 24 kids, 8 days later, with a better appreciation of themselves and their environment. It is the same today as it was back then. It was proven again to me last year. I sent 14 of my cadets to encampment and all 14 came back different and better. While only 11 of them stayed in the program, they are all doing better than they did prior.