NOTF is reporting, on page 1 of today's articles, that the make up of the BOG has changed.
Anyone know anything about this?
Well, different members go on and off BOG all the time, but the basic composition (who gets to appoint how many members) is set in federal law.
Just had a conversation with BG Vasquez. It sounds like Gen Hopper and Gen Kehoe have been removed from the BoG. Rumor has it that a retired BG and Col. have replaced them however, I have no confirmation. I'm sure we'll hear something about this shortly.
So where is our resident BoG member for comments?
No notice of Gen's Hopper & Kehoe on here, according to them.
Quote from: NOTFChanges to the Civil Air Patrol's Board of Governors
There have been some recent changes to the composition of the Civil Air Patrol (CAP)'s Board of Governors (BoG). The changes were not officially announced, but the list appears on a CAP web site.
The current BoG members are as follows:
- USAF-appointed members:
Maj. Gen. John M. Speigel, USAF (Ret.), is the BoG's vice chairman;
Lt. Gen. Stanley Clarke, USAF (commander, 1st Air Force/AFNORTH);
Mr. William Davidson; and Brig. Gen. Leon Johnson, USAF (Ret.).
- CAP-appointed members:
Brig. Gen. Richard L. Anderson, CAP (the BoG's chairman);
Maj. Gen. Charles L. Carr, CAP (the CAP's national commander);
Brig. Gen. Joseph R. Vazquez, CAP (the CAP's national vice commander);
Lt. Col. Edward (Ned) F. Lee, CAP.
- Industry, government and education-appointed members:
Mr. Paul L. Graziani, CEO, Analytical Graphics, Inc.;
Maj. Gen. Susan Pamerleau, USAF (Ret.);
Brig. Gen. S. Stanford Schlitt, USAF (Ret.), chairman of the BoD, Air Force Association (AFA);
Mr. Don Rowland, the CAP's executive director.
Meanwhile, the CAP's web page listing its chain of command is blank, suggesting more changes are in the works.
Which jives with NHQ's page:
http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/cap_leadership_structure/cap_board_of_governors.cfm
As was said.. people come off and get replaced at times..
Gen Hopper and Gen Kehoe have both been on the BOG for about four years now.
Could it be something as simple as their terms expired and they were replaced as a matter of course?
Yes, the SECAF-appointed BoG contingent is changing. But not all the SECAF's nominees have officially accepted, so the announcements have been delayed until they all do.
I don't expect much change in the "look and feel" of the BoG. We have important work afoot. As I have mentioned in a couple of other threads, we will be receiving the governance report from out contractors, BoardSource, Inc.
I am excited to see what they recommend. Their pre-brief indicated that over 400 "rabk-and-file" members of CAP paricipated in the on-line survey and gave meaningful input.
The Governance Issue is the one to keep your eye on for the next year or so. All else flows from that.
Ned Lee
Quote from: Ned on November 14, 2011, 01:20:53 AM
Yes, the SECAF-appointed BoG contingent is changing. But not all the SECAF's nominees have officially accepted, so the announcements have been delayed until they all do.
I don't expect much change in the "look and feel" of the BoG. We have important work afoot. As I have mentioned in a couple of other threads, we will be receiving the governance report from out contractors, BoardSource, Inc.
I am excited to see what they recommend. Their pre-brief indicated that over 400 "rabk-and-file" members of CAP paricipated in the on-line survey and gave meaningful input.
The Governance Issue is the one to keep your eye on for the next year or so. All else flows from that.
Ned Lee
Ned, will we get to see the governance report?
Quote from: NCRblues on November 14, 2011, 01:22:59 AM
Ned, will we get to see the governance report?
I'm not sure. At this point, the presentation is scheduled for executive session, so the decision will not be up to me alone.
Remember, the BoG will ultimately make the call on what - if any - changes to make to the C&BL. Knowing Gens Anderson and Carr as I do, I'm confident that the BoG will not make any changes without receiving the input and guidance from other stakeholders such as the NB, the AF, and the membership.
So ultimately the contractor's governance report is just the first step. There are a whole lot of possibilities about what will happen after that. The BoG may decided that the current set-up is adequate and that the "case for change" has not been made. The BoG may decide that the report makes a lot of sense and publish it as a sort of map for the path forward, and seek stakeholder input on the recommendations. The contractor may even make recommendations outside the BoG's ability to change; like recommending changes to the laws establishing the BoG and/or its makeup. That possibility, of course, would require Congressional action.
Or all of these things.
But regardless of what is in the report, please remember my previous comments about governance change in general: by definition, anytime governance changes, members and other stakeholders will examine the proposed changes and decide who the "winners" and "losers" are.
And often people who perceives themselves as a "loser" will begin to spin and influence the process. We have seen just that here on CAPTalk with anonymous disinformation and spin.
It may be that the BoG will want to try to minimize that by withholding the governance report until the BoG itself has decided what (if anything) to change.
Or we may decide to simply release it as soon as we have accepted the report.
I'll do the best I can to keep the membership informed.
Maj. Gen. John M. Speigel, USAF (Ret.), is the BoG's vice chairman;
http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7216 (http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7216) Retired from AF in 2005.
Lt. Gen. Stanley Clarke, USAF (commander, 1st Air Force/AFNORTH);
see [urlhttp://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=9849][/url]
CAP primary mission customer.
Mr. William Davidson; See: http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5168 (http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5168) Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the USAF, also 22 years as an AF Office of Special Investigations Agent, specialist in polygraphs :angel:
Brig. Gen. Leon Johnson, USAF (Ret.). See http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=10949 (http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=10949) Retired from AF in September 2004
RM
Ned,
By now im sure you know my feelings on how open I believe this should be.
I can only offer my simple idea on it.
I believe that if the BOG put out the survey on the public website, it would do allot to counteract those people who want to spin it. If the information is withheld I believe it could do more to egg on those who wish to spin it in a way that is not true. In a void of information, people will look to anyone who claims to know something about it, even if what they "know" is not true.
Like you said, their will always be some "losers" and "winners", but I think those of us that volunteer our time have a right/need to know if we are going to be either of those categories.
I can only hope that you will push to publish it to the membership. I think we need a little more openness in the organization. Just like with the last hiccup (the budget crunch) a lack of information at the start led to wild rumors of impending doom. I hope we can avoid it this time by just publishing all the ideas and facts.
Anyway, lets hope we get to see it.
Quote from: PHall on November 14, 2011, 12:27:14 AM
Gen Hopper and Gen Kehoe have both been on the BOG for about four years now.
Could it be something as simple as their terms expired and they were replaced as a matter of course?
General Kehoe has been a member of the BoG since its inception. General Hopper has been on the board, at least, since 2005.
CAP story on the changes: http://www.capvolunteernow.com/todays_features.cfm/cap_board_of_governors_welcomes_3_new_members?show=news&newsID=12121 (http://www.capvolunteernow.com/todays_features.cfm/cap_board_of_governors_welcomes_3_new_members?show=news&newsID=12121)
As a matter of policy, I don't think it is very wise to replace all the AF board members at the same time. Shouldn't there be some level of overlap? We now have a significant number of folks on the BOG starting from scratch with no CAP experience.
I would consider it a positive. Maybe they'll bring a fresh perspective by not being entrenched in CAP.
One of the issues we are looking at during the governance study is term limits and overlapping the terms for BoG members.
The issue is that would impede the SECAF's discretion. As of now the Secretary can name his representatives at will and they have theoretically unlisted terms. The CAP and industry members already have term limits.
I have every confidence that our newest BoG members will reflect great credit on the Secretary and work as hard for CAP as their predecessors.
Unlisted or unlimited?
The press release said that they had 3 year terms ?
We have CAPNHQ with a press release saying they have 3 year terms limits
Then we get Ned (member of the BOG) who said they do not have term limits
Sounds to me like CAP inc. needs to get the story straight by everyone before releasing the info....
The BoG members appointed by the SECAF do have 3 year terms however, the SECAF may renew them an unlimited amount of times (Gen Kehoe was reappointed 3 times; Gen Hopper twice). Same for the industry members (Mr. Graziani was reappointed in 2009).
Does anyone know if the BOG held its meeting today?
The meeting is tomorrow. December 7, 2011.
Quote from: FW on December 07, 2011, 02:30:50 AM
The meeting is tomorrow. December 7, 2011.
Ah great, thank you. I could have sworn they had talked about a Dec 6th meeting...but...
The Audit Committee met from 1600 - 1830 yesterday, and the full BoG from 1830 until a little after 2200.
We started again a few minutes ago and are scheduled to meet until 1530.
Nothing very exciting yet.
Quote from: Ned on December 07, 2011, 01:04:57 PM
The Audit Committee met from 1600 - 1830 yesterday, and the full BoG from 1830 until a little after 2200.
We started again a few minutes ago and are scheduled to meet until 1530.
Nothing very exciting yet.
See, I knew I was not crazy!
Ned, you know what I am going to ask about... so give us an update when you can please and thank you.
NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS — Meeting Wednesday, Civil Air Patrol's Board of Governors received an external governance study report submitted by BoardSource, a nonprofit organization based in Washington, D.C.
The report includes recommendations designed to ensure best practices in the organization's governance structure. BoardSource was selected to conduct the study based on its extensive expertise in defining nonprofit governance practices, including governance structures, board/staff partnerships and current and evolving trends.
BoardSource's research included interviews with board members, National Headquarters staff, volunteer leaders and selected wing and region commanders. The research also included surveys of CAP members.
The BoardSource study fully complements the internal study done by the CAP Governance Committee.
Brig. Gen. Richard Anderson, chairman of the Board of Governors, and Maj. Gen. Chuck Carr, CAP national commander, issued the following joint statement after the meeting:
"The study's purpose is to help strengthen CAP's governance and ensure that our governance structure is consistent with best practices in other nonprofit public service organizations. The comprehensive recommendations made by BoardSource will be thoroughly studied by the Board of Governors and CAP's leadership before any changes are made."
"CAP leaders will be involved in the process every step of the way," they added.
Anderson and Carr concluded with, "The BoG will provide regular updates as the review process progresses."
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So, by the way this is worded, I guess the membership won't get to see it huh Ned?
Quote from: NCRblues on December 09, 2011, 12:30:03 AMSo, by the way this is worded, I guess the membership won't get to see it huh Ned?
Yes, you will. The question is when.
We specifically discussed when and how to release the report. We clearly recognize that it was paid for with a combination of appropriated and corporate dollars and that every member has a legitimate interest in the contents.
I shared with the other BoG members the interest expressed here on CT in seeing the full report.
At this point, we have referred the report to our BoG Governance subcommittee, who will meet right after the holidays. One of the specific questions they have been asked to consider is how and when to release the report.
I can say there is nothing Earth-shattering in the report; certainly nothing that has not been discussed here and/or in the internal governance report prepared by the NB's committee. (Yes, I know you haven't seen that one either, but I don't control that process.) BoardSource recognized the same issues that we have discussed so passionately here - things like confusion about roles and responsibilities amongst the key leaders and boards, abuse of the electoral system for selecting our national leaders, and the strong traditions of volunteer leadership in CAP (when compared to organizations like the ARC and BSA).
They have made a number of specific recommendations they believe are based on the best practices of non-profit groups. It is now the role of the BoG - in close consultation with the membership, CAP leaders, and the SECAF's office - to decide if the "case for change" has been made, and if so, what changes should be made.
And that process has just begun.
Ned, it's good to know that we're going to get to see the report, and that the BoG is interested in the members' thoughts on this matter.