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Title: Both tragic and strange
Post by: capmaj on November 08, 2011, 07:14:18 PM
Very tragic and strange accident involving a Royal Air Force Red Arrows pilot today.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/mobile/topnews/2011/11/08/red-arrows-pilot-killed-after-he-s-ejected-from-his-aircraft-while-on-the-ground-115875-23546896/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/mobile/topnews/2011/11/08/red-arrows-pilot-killed-after-he-s-ejected-from-his-aircraft-while-on-the-ground-115875-23546896/)

Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: jks19714 on November 08, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
I just covered ejection seats and other assorted ordnance last month in my Squadron safety meeting (part of an ongoing ground team safety talk that I'm doing).

Guess this will be an object lesson to the cadets in this week's briefing.  May the pilot rest in peace.

john
Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: titanII on November 08, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
I've heard/read more than one good pilot say "I'd rather stay with the plane than eject."
Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: SarDragon on November 08, 2011, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: titanII on November 08, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
I've heard/read more than one good pilot say "I'd rather stay with the plane than eject."

And what is the relevance to the posted occurrence?
Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: bosshawk on November 08, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
One: ejection seats are not without their danger: they rest on explosive charges.

Two: I have many friends who are alive today thanks to the Martin-Baker Mk V seat, which was in all of our OV-1 Mohawks in the Army.  I also have had friends killed in ejections: usually because of unusual attitudes or insufficient altitude.

May God be with his soul and with his close relatives.
Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: titanII on November 09, 2011, 12:07:47 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on November 08, 2011, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: titanII on November 08, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
I've heard/read more than one good pilot say "I'd rather stay with the plane than eject."

And what is the relevance to the posted occurrence?
I was remarking on the danger of ejection seats.
Title: Re: Both tragic and strange
Post by: PHall on November 09, 2011, 01:44:04 AM
Quote from: titanII on November 09, 2011, 12:07:47 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on November 08, 2011, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: titanII on November 08, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
I've heard/read more than one good pilot say "I'd rather stay with the plane than eject."

And what is the relevance to the posted occurrence?
I was remarking on the danger of ejection seats.

They're not dangerous when used properly. Just like any other piece of equipment on the airplane.
And they can be deadly if they're not used properly. (i.e. out of the envelope ejection)