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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: coudano on October 21, 2011, 05:45:16 PM

Title: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: coudano on October 21, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
cadet membership,

2-2.c. Single or married and under age 18


Guess that's supposed to be
Single
-or-
married and OVER age 18

??



Well no, once you turn 18 if you are married, you become a senior member.
So I guess you can be married as a cadet, if you aren't 18 yet
Wierd.

married to... a senior member?
too much confusion

haha
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: davidsinn on October 21, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: coudano on October 21, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
married to... a senior member?
too much confusion

haha

That does open up interesting avenues. Two 17 year old cadets get married. One turns 18 and thus must go SM. You now have a cadet married to a SM. Now what? >:D
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: lordmonar on October 21, 2011, 06:24:39 PM
Ignore it....as you should ignore all assine regulations that don't fit reality.
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: MSG Mac on October 21, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
It's one of the few exceptions to the rule of under 17 seniors. The other is military under 18.
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: johnnyb47 on October 21, 2011, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 21, 2011, 06:24:39 PM
Ignore it....as you should ignore all assine regulations that don't fit reality.

I'm too new to make the joke I'm thinking.
Anyone else? C'mon... it's killing me.

:)
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: lordmonar on October 21, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
Don't hold back brother!  Were all lemmings here!  Welcome to CAPTAK!
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: SarDragon on October 21, 2011, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on October 21, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: coudano on October 21, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
married to... a senior member?
too much confusion

haha

That does open up interesting avenues. Two 17 year old cadets get married. One turns 18 and thus must go SM. You now have a cadet married to a SM. Now what? >:D

Make the other one a SM, too.
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: davidsinn on October 21, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on October 21, 2011, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on October 21, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: coudano on October 21, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
married to... a senior member?
too much confusion

haha

That does open up interesting avenues. Two 17 year old cadets get married. One turns 18 and thus must go SM. You now have a cadet married to a SM. Now what? >:D

Make the other one a SM, too.

But cadet criteria says married and under 18. Personally I'd punt this puppy as high as I could and let NHQ fight it out.
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: SarDragon on October 21, 2011, 09:16:18 PM
My punt would be a Form 12, annotated at the top: "SM conversion - 17 yo cadet married to an 18 yo SM". Then let the head shed sort it out.
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: coudano on October 21, 2011, 09:59:22 PM
I think the point is that you can't be a senior member if you aren't 18
even if you ARE married...  (or in the military for that matter)

I'm sure you can technically get married at a rather young age, in some states,
particularly with parental consent
Title: Re: CAPR 39-2 typo?
Post by: SarDragon on October 21, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: CAPR 39-22-2. Requirements for Initial Membership. All applicants for cadet membership must meet the following prerequisites:
a. Twelve years of age through 18 years of age. [redacted]
b. Enrolled in or graduated from a private, public, home school or college program with a satisfactory record of academic achievement.
c. Single, or married and under age 18. (Red text added)
d. Not a member of the active duty Armed Forces. NOTE: National Guard and Reserve personnel are not considered active duty Armed Forces unless they are serving on extended active duty. For the purpose of this regulation, CAP does not consider Basic Military Training for Guard and Reserve personnel as extended active duty.

In c., the comma, or lack thereof, is critical. I'm guessing that it's been left out, since it is very unclear, and counter to logic without. Para 2-6 clarifies the situation:

Quote from: CAPR 39-22-6. Marriage. Married cadets who reach age 18 as well as cadets who marry after age 18, will furnish NHQ CAP/LMMR written notification along with a completed CAPF 12 and fingerprint card at which time they will be transferred automatically to senior membership status.

In d., It seems to imply that a 17 yo on AD can only be a SM. Para 3-2 amplifies that.

Quote from: CAPR 39-23-2. Requirements for Membership. All applicants for senior membership in CAP must be accepted by the unit and higher headquarters and must meet the following criteria:

b. Age. Be at least 18 years of age or be a member of the Armed Forces on active duty at any age.

So there is precedent for a 17 yo SM. Send it that Form 12, and see what NHQ does with it.