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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: Thrashed on August 17, 2011, 01:15:08 AM

Title: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 17, 2011, 01:15:08 AM
Check out the photo link to our high power rocket we used for the Saturn stage of the rocket program.
https://picasaweb.google.com/PoconoWargaming/CAPRocketry?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on August 17, 2011, 01:31:45 AM
Can't get to the link
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 17, 2011, 02:01:22 AM
I think the settings wouldn't allow viewing. Try again.
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on August 17, 2011, 03:01:18 AM
Works now.

They took away our bombs but we have missiles now  >:D :clap: 
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: jeders on August 17, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
I like the Pringles can one, but I'm thinking it wasn't very aerodynamic. How well did it work?
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 17, 2011, 03:41:58 PM
It flys great! We've flown it over a dozen times. I added some more pringles photos to the link above if you want to see the contruction of the rocket. It's basically an Alpha rocket in a can.
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Major Lord on August 20, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
Awesome rocket! Do you know what altitude you achieved? And, since all threads of any type must eventually become Uniform threads, you might have a chat with the pictured female Cadet with tucked in pants and out of reg hair!......" This is unacceptable and does not meet the encampment standard!  Your uniform makes me physically ill!" (overheard at a CAWG encampment about a decade ago)

Major Lord
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on August 20, 2011, 05:53:24 PM
Rocketry Badge on the right pocket? :P
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Briski on August 20, 2011, 06:23:28 PM
Really?

Couldn't the uniform concerns have been sent via PM?

Thrash, based on the pics, it looks like everyone involved had an awesome time. This is exactly the kind of hands-on activity that keeps cadets engaged. It certainly helps them connect the dots on some of the more elusive scientific principles explained in the cadet aerospace texts, showing them how the theories in the textbook intersect with real life. :)

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 20, 2011, 06:31:13 PM
The rocket went about 1,800'. I didnt put my altimeter in it so that is based Rocksim calculations.
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on August 20, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Thrash on August 20, 2011, 06:31:13 PM
The rocket went about 1,800'. I didnt put my altimeter in it so that is based Rocksim calculations.

That sounds like a lot of fun. How far did it drift?
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 20, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on August 20, 2011, 05:53:24 PM
Rocketry Badge on the right pocket? :P

Yes. CAPR 39-1 is our friend. Page 112 Table 6-4:

"Model Rocketry Patch
embroidered centered below the pocket
flap on the right breast
pocket of the BDU"
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 20, 2011, 07:45:23 PM
Quote from: Briski on August 20, 2011, 06:23:28 PM
Really?

Couldn't the uniform concerns have been sent via PM?

Thanks for sharing!

At work we call them uniform Nazis.  ;)
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 20, 2011, 07:49:07 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on August 20, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Thrash on August 20, 2011, 06:31:13 PM
The rocket went about 1,800'. I didnt put my altimeter in it so that is based Rocksim calculations.

That sounds like a lot of fun. How far did it drift?

About 1/4 mile.
I didn't built it with dual deployment (drogue 'chute at apogee and main 'chute at 1000') like my bigger rockets.
Some of them seen here: https://picasaweb.google.com/PoconoWargaming/Rockets?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on August 20, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: Thrash on August 20, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on August 20, 2011, 05:53:24 PM
Rocketry Badge on the right pocket? :P

Yes. CAPR 39-1 is our friend. Page 112 Table 6-4:

"Model Rocketry Patch
embroidered centered below the pocket
flap on the right breast
pocket of the BDU"

Quite aware of that, hence the :P . I was rolling with Major Lord's olde observation (as I did not see anyone with that reference in the pictures). The Rocketry patch is rare enough, that this (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=7863.0) comes up quite enough, due to being counter intuitive.

P.S. Any special clearances required for the large/high altitude rocket?
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Major Lord on August 20, 2011, 08:07:07 PM
A cadet wearing a uniform  that's just a bit off, or out of grooming,  is no skin off my nose. ( SM's are just as bad or worse, and her uniform was not all bad!)  The AF wears tucked boots, who am I to complain? As long as we get to shoot stuff at high velocity into the sky! My only real criticism is the lack of eye protection when she is installing the igniter. That's a big motor, and they occasionally go "pipe bomb" on you when you least expect it.

You could do the rocket altitude measurement the old fashioned way: Stand back a fixed distance, and use a protractor to measure the angle at it maximum altitude, now you have the base and the angle, so all you need is your trusty slide ruleer, calculator to determine the altitude. We have been thinking about a barometric sensor to the balloon trackers we build, since altitude is the least reliable of the GPS coordinates.

Major Lord

Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Major Lord on August 20, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Calculate rocket height without trigonometry:

http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/TRCRocket/altitude_tracking2.html

Major Lord
Title: Re: Model Rocketry program goes High Power!
Post by: Thrashed on August 21, 2011, 01:25:14 AM
Yes, lots of clearances. The club takes care of all that. We have waivers to 12,000' and any flight over 5,000' we call air traffic control for a launch window. We have jet airliners coming into Newark, NJ passing over at 7,000-8,000'.  I'm not a high or fast guy; I prefer low and slow. I like to see them and get them back. I broke the sound barrier once, but never saw the rocket again. Besides altitude = money. It cost more to fly higher.

I normally use barometric altimeters to track altitude and other data, but don't always use them. I really don't care how high it goes anymore. Plus, I don't want to risk losing a $100 altimeter.

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