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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 04:43:19 AM

Title: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 04:43:19 AM
If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then are they for sale at VANGUARD?

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15230 (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15230)

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15231 (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15231)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: vento on June 06, 2011, 04:51:53 AM
Because it is Vanguard?  :angel:
Sometimes I wonder who really has control over what Vanguard can or can't sell when it comes to CAP related articles. Memobillias, luggages, items with "U.S. Civil Air Patrol", etc...
Title: Re: If Whistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 04:56:10 AM
I enjoy the items like suit bags and the like, and I think they should sell them.  However, uniform items.

Maybe the problems lies is us.  A whistle is an ES.  I used to wear a small lanyard and whistle when on ES duties...a cadet gave me a much better one and, of course, the uniform NATIONAL SOCIALISTS pointed it out as a violation of some sort?!?

That is why I have decided to use a bugle.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: SarDragon on June 06, 2011, 05:13:11 AM
Wat's a wistle?  >:D
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 05:15:42 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 06, 2011, 05:13:11 AM
Wat's a wistle?  >:D
The result of typing on a Blackberry at the movies.   :-*
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on June 06, 2011, 05:29:03 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 05:15:42 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 06, 2011, 05:13:11 AM
Wat's a wistle?  >:D
The result of typing on a Blackberry at the movies.   :-*

Fix'd.  >:D
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: FARRIER on June 06, 2011, 06:24:33 AM
And this advances the mission how?
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Al Sayre on June 06, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
What movie could be so bad that you'd rather do a CAPTalk uniform thread on your blackberry?
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: N Harmon on June 06, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
What in the world is this for? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15151)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: coudano on June 06, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: N Harmon on June 06, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
What in the world is this for? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15151)

and more importantly, can you get it in ABU color scheme lol
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on June 06, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: N Harmon on June 06, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
What in the world is this for? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15151)

So the person your searching for has ZERO chance of seeing you  >:D 8)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: lordmonar on June 06, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
Who ever said Whisles are verboten?

I carry on with with my field gear....in fact it is requred for GTs.

One can carry one while in blues.

Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: davidsinn on June 06, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 06, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
Who ever said Whisles are verboten?

I carry on with with my field gear....in fact it is requred for GTs.

One can carry one while in blues.

Certain CAP events add it as a permanent visible part of the uniform. Also I have heard of 1Sgts thinking that it's their badge of office and wear it exposed at all times.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: lordmonar on June 06, 2011, 05:20:59 PM
Oh I understand....CAWG used to do this IIRC......but saying something is verboten and wondering why Vanguard sells it....implies that one is not allowed to even have a whistle at all.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Ned on June 06, 2011, 06:53:01 PM
AAFES sells whistles, too.  Does that mean that they are somehow implying that it would be OK to wear a whistle as part of a USAF uniform?

The fact that a major retailer sells an item that some CAP members want to buy just doesn't seem all that strange to me.

Sounds like good customer service.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Persona non grata on June 06, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
For the record.......I am pro whistle :o

I carry an od one in my flight bag.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Persona non grata on June 06, 2011, 07:22:48 PM
I just got off the phone with the VG rep.  They stated that they will start selling ultramarine blue and white face paint so that we are distinctive from combat ground forces :D 
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: FlyTiger77 on June 06, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: N Harmon on June 06, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
What in the world is this for? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15151)

That is in place to improve Vanguard's bottom line. If I were a betting man, I would bet that it serves its purpose well.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: SARDOC on June 06, 2011, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: Ned on June 06, 2011, 06:53:01 PM
AAFES sells whistles, too.  Does that mean that they are somehow implying that it would be OK to wear a whistle as part of a USAF uniform?

The fact that a major retailer sells an item that some CAP members want to buy just doesn't seem all that strange to me.

Sounds like good customer service.

AAFES sells AF style uniforms and well as Twinkies and HoHo's...although we all Know they are incompatible.   >:D
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Skydude61 on June 06, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on June 06, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
What movie could be so bad that you'd rather do a CAPTalk uniform thread on your blackberry?

"Justin Bieber: Never Say Never"   >:D
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Hawk200 on June 06, 2011, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: Skydude61 on June 06, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on June 06, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
What movie could be so bad that you'd rather do a CAPTalk uniform thread on your blackberry?

"Justin Bieber: Never Say Never"   >:D
That was just unkind.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: titanII on June 06, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: eaker.cadet on June 06, 2011, 07:22:48 PM
I just got off the phone with the VG rep.  They stated that they will start selling ultramarine blue and white face paint so that we are distinctive from combat ground forces :D 
Oh No!!!!!     Now we'll NEVER be distinctive from 14th century Scottish warriors!!!!!!


(a la Braveheart)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 06, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
Who ever said Whisles are verboten?

I carry on with with my field gear....in fact it is requred for GTs.

One can carry one while in blues.

Hey...I agree, but if you go to my facebook....someone tried to "gig" me on wearing a whistle and lanyard because it appeared in a photo of us setting up tarps and tents at an activity.

Again...is it the whistle or is it JUST US CAPTALKERS?
Title: Re: VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Major Carrales on June 06, 2011, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on June 06, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
What movie could be so bad that you'd rather do a CAPTalk uniform thread on your blackberry?

I should clarify that I had not actually entered the picture show at that time...what?  You think I would violate the sanctity of MOVIE GOING rules and regulations?  I mean...and disrupt the various theater hoppers, conversationalists and LOVE BIRDS???  Me...never!!!  ;)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Chief2009 on June 07, 2011, 12:44:50 AM
Well, VG also sells the cloth commander's badge, has it been authorized?

DN
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: PHall on June 07, 2011, 01:55:08 AM
The bookstore used to sell the blue nylon SP jackets that were never authorized for wear with the uniform too.
Vanguard is just continuing the "tradition". ::)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: JC004 on June 07, 2011, 03:09:56 AM
The Bookstore and CAPMart used to sell them too.

Quote from: N Harmon on June 06, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
What in the world is this for? (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_2218_2272&products_id=15151)

radioman.

Also, for...something.  Anything except paintball.
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Skydude61 on June 07, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: titanII on June 06, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: eaker.cadet on June 06, 2011, 07:22:48 PM
I just got off the phone with the VG rep.  They stated that they will start selling ultramarine blue and white face paint so that we are distinctive from combat ground forces :D 
Oh No!!!!!     Now we'll NEVER be distinctive from 14th century Scottish warriors!!!!!!


(a la Braveheart)

Or Howling Mad Murdock and the Blue Man Group
A La A-Team
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: ol'fido on June 07, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
If I blow my whistle once, it means go. :)

If I blow my whistle twice, it means stop.  >:(

If I blow my whistle three times, it means Help! or Come to me at once! :-[

If I blow my whistle four times, it means I'm playing with my whistle. ;D
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Skydude61 on June 08, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: ol'fido on June 07, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
If I blow my whistle once, it means go. :)

If I blow my whistle twice, it means stop.  >:(

If I blow my whistle three times, it means Help! or Come to me at once! :-[

If I blow my whistle four times, it means I'm playing with my whistle. ;D

What if you start playing stairway to heaven??
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: jimmydeanno on June 08, 2011, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: Skydude61 on June 08, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
What if you start playing stairway to heaven??

(http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0128777002e2970c-pi)
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Skydude61 on June 08, 2011, 07:14:27 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on June 08, 2011, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: Skydude61 on June 08, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
What if you start playing stairway to heaven??

(http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0128777002e2970c-pi)

Maybe smells like teen spirit?
Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on June 08, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: eaker.cadet on June 06, 2011, 07:22:48 PM
I just got off the phone with the VG rep.  They stated that they will start selling ultramarine blue and white face paint so that we are distinctive from combat ground forces :D

Don't you mean grey and white? >:D

Das Farbenblau wird verboten; es ist zu viel der US-amerikanischen Luftwaffe ähnlich. Das muss grau sein. Wir können keine anderen Farben haben.  >:D

As far as a whistle...they can be very useful on missions and teaching drill.

Title: Re: If Wistles are VERBOTEN in official CAP uniform items why then...
Post by: Skydude61 on June 09, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on June 08, 2011, 09:41:05 PM

Don't you mean grey and white? >:D

Das Farbenblau wird verboten; es ist zu viel der US-amerikanischen Luftwaffe ähnlich. Das muss grau sein. Wir können keine anderen Farben haben.  >:D

As far as a whistle...they can be very useful on missions and teaching drill.

You Made A Typo, it should say "Das Farben blau wird verboten; es ist zu viel der US-amerikanischen Luftwaffe ähnlich. Das muss grau sein. Wir können keine anderen Farben haben".

This means

يحظر اللون الأزرق، وهو مشابه للكثير من القوة الجوية الامريكى س. يجب أن يكون رمادي. ويمكن ليست لدينا ألوان أخرى

藍色的是禁止的,它類似於美國大部分的空軍。這一定是灰色的。我們可以在沒有其他顏色

голубого цвета, это запрещено, это похоже на большую часть ВВС США. Это должно быть серым. Мы не может иметь других цветов

A cor azul está prohibida, é moi semellante ao do S. U. da Forza Aérea. Isto debe ser gris. Podemos non ter outras cores

Các màu xanh là bị cấm, nó tương tự như nhiều của U. S. Không quân. Điều này phải được màu xám. Chúng ta có thể không có màu sắc khác

AND

The color blue is prohibited, it is similar to much of the U.S. Air Force. This must be gray. We can have no other colors