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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:14:22 AM

Title: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/blfireve.html I ran across this tonight. I think this is the closest we can get to orange MOLLE - has anyone seen or used one of these?
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: davidsinn on May 05, 2011, 01:37:43 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/blfireve.html (http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/blfireve.html) I ran across this tonight. I think this is the closest we can get to orange MOLLE - has anyone seen or used one of these?

Unless they come out with an ANSI class 2 tactical vest don't waste your money because come next Oct you must wear a class 2 vest in the field.
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: JC004 on May 05, 2011, 01:41:03 AM
Not necessary.  Vanguard sells these:

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15439

CAP distinctive patch can be attached
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:41:30 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on May 05, 2011, 01:37:43 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/blfireve.html (http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/blfireve.html) I ran across this tonight. I think this is the closest we can get to orange MOLLE - has anyone seen or used one of these?

Unless they come out with an ANSI class 2 tactical vest don't waste your money because come next Oct you must wear a class 2 vest in the field.

Did that actually get codified?
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Eclipse on May 05, 2011, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:41:30 AM
Did that actually get codified?

Yes in 62-1, no in 39-1.

Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:59:10 AM
http://thevestguy.com/product.asp?id=10191

I'll bet we could get this guy to make this vest ANSI compliant >:D. Of course, I think that loses relevance once you put patches pouches on.

My backpack is getting tiresome...

EDIT: That's what I get for posting and watching a movie at the same time...
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 02:20:09 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 05, 2011, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 05, 2011, 01:41:30 AM
Did that actually get codified?

Yes in 62-1, no in 39-1.

The reg seems to contradict itself. In one place it says that vests may or may not be ANSI compliant and another place says all vests will be ANSI compliant by Oct 1 2012... Hm.
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: Eclipse on May 05, 2011, 02:23:03 AM
Ref: Safety Beacon  June 2010, Vol 1. No. 1
Safety vests rules have changed. A policy change has been made and a copy of the revised CAPR 62-1 will be out in print for member comment soon. Please note that the requirements of CAPM 39-1 have been superseded. Here are the requirements:

To be compliant with Federal Regulations, it is now required for CAP members to wear ANSI Class 2 or Class 3 safety vests or apparel if they are going to be or if there is a chance members may perform duties within the vicinity of federal-aid roadways. For the military style uniforms, only ANSI-approved vests are authorized. For the corporate uniform, members may wear ANSI-approved apparel such as insulated vests, jackets, winter coats, or rain gear, as an option. For other activities that will not be in the vicinity of federal-aid roadways, all safety vests must have reflectivity applied to them. While safety vests do not have to meet the ANSI standard, again, reflectivity is required. For all apparel items other than safety vests, ANSI compliance must be met regardless of the activity. See link or attachment below for additional details. By October 1, 2012, all safety vests and apparel will be required to be ANSI compliant for all CAP activities.

Typically ambiguous.  Just decide and publish.  No reason all vests should not be ANSI.
Title: Re: Blackhawk Red MOLLE Vest
Post by: SarDragon on May 05, 2011, 06:56:32 AM
Quote from: JC004 on May 05, 2011, 01:41:03 AM
Not necessary.  Vanguard sells these:

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15439 (http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15439)

CAP distinctive patch can be attached

Ha, Ha.