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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: RVT on August 17, 2010, 09:06:50 PM

Title: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: RVT on August 17, 2010, 09:06:50 PM
The paperwork I just found is so yellowed with age it looks like the Constitution, but apparently I'm going to be a 52 year old man wearing a solid white ribbon, which I suppose is fairly uncommon.  Its got a bronze star on it too!

Couldn't find my Mitchell award though.  Bummer.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: PHall on August 17, 2010, 09:23:11 PM
Actually, not that uncommon. There are at least a dozen "over 40" senior members in CAWG who wear the CAC ribbon.
Me being one of them.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: ßτε on August 17, 2010, 09:28:25 PM
What records did you actually find?  If you have anything showing you as a cadet officer, that should be sufficient to warrant the wear of a Mitchell award.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: RVT on August 17, 2010, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: bte on August 17, 2010, 09:28:25 PM
What records did you actually find?  If you have anything showing you as a cadet officer, that should be sufficient to warrant the wear of a Mitchell award.

The letter my first squadron commander wrote to my second when I moved from New Jersey to Delaware.  It lists everything I did but never refers to me by rank, only as "Cadet".  I didn't earn my Mitchell until after I showed up in New Castle Delaware.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: PHall on August 17, 2010, 10:14:42 PM
National may have a record of your Mitchell Award.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on August 17, 2010, 10:21:24 PM
Didn't they number them by 74? Or did that come about in the late 70s early 80s?
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: SarDragon on August 17, 2010, 10:50:21 PM
Numbering didn't start until sometime in the '80s.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: MSgt Van on August 18, 2010, 12:44:46 AM
So, I assume your CAP id #is like, 237 or something?
:angel:
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: SarDragon on August 18, 2010, 02:53:28 AM
Actually, no. it's 106-something. The lowest number seems to be 100000, and he's still a member. The assignment appears to have  been in SSAN order among the members on the rolls when the SSAN->CAPID conversion was done. The lowest numbers in both sets belong to members of NER.

FWIW, I joined CAP in 1964, and I've had three non-SSAN membership numbers. The first was wing assigned, the second was a nationally assigned cadet number (SMs used SSANs), and the third was my current one
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: MSgt Van on August 18, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
Wow. That's cool! I bow to your years of volunteer service!
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: flyboy53 on August 19, 2010, 12:08:08 AM
Congrats!

Now about that Mitchell Award, contact Jennifer Carroll, the NHQ Registrar and ask her if she can perform a "Cadet Member Z Record" search of the computers at NHQ. A Z record is the last bit of information still in the computers. If you're lucky, she may be able to verify that you received the Mitchell and then give advice on whether the certificate may be re-issued.

It's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: AlphaSigOU on August 19, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
The current Mitchell and Earhart numbering dates back from 1979; the fact sheets for both awards (part of the presentation package) erroneously lists those numbers as the total numbers awarded, when there were thousands more unnumbered Mitchell and Earhart awards issued between 1964 through 1978.
Title: Re: Cadet records from 1974
Post by: RVT on August 19, 2010, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on August 19, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
The current Mitchell and Earhart numbering dates back from 1979; the fact sheets for both awards (part of the presentation package) erroneously lists those numbers as the total numbers awarded, when there were thousands more unnumbered Mitchell and Earhart awards issued between 1964 through 1978.

So if your Mitchell award from 1981 is #2375, they actually think there were less than 3000 cadet officers in the history of CAP prior to that?  If that was two years into the program when CAP was quite a bit larger than today itt almost looks like they started with #1