In the eServices Ops Quals module, is there a report I can run that will list my squadron members alongside of their ES quals (even if they don't have one).
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
Go to "Reports" in OpsQuals and then to "All Qual/Achv with data". Your unit should be displayed by default. See if that's what you're looking for.
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years. To the OP yes there is a report. In the ops qual module click reports. You want to use "all qual/achv with data."
Camas beat me with the report.
Quote from: davidsinn on June 29, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years.
There are still states that do - mine only cleared out last Fall after the 101 upgrade ability was removed, and plenty of
our members still think we're a WMU state.
Quote from: davidsinn on June 29, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years. To the OP yes there is a report. In the ops qual module click reports. You want to use "all qual/achv with data."
Camas beat me with the report.
This report isn't exactly what the OP wants. It does not show the entire roster, as those without quals are omitted.
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 29, 2010, 06:59:37 PM
In the eServices Ops Quals module, is there a report I can run that will list my squadron members alongside of their ES quals (even if they don't have one).
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Quote from: Eclipse on June 29, 2010, 10:21:45 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on June 29, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years.
There are still states that do - mine only cleared out last Fall after the 101 upgrade ability was removed, and plenty of
our members still think we're a WMU state.
I know. Some of your people were at the GLR/ES conference and it was...interesting.
Quote from: tsrup on June 29, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on June 29, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years. To the OP yes there is a report. In the ops qual module click reports. You want to use "all qual/achv with data."
Camas beat me with the report.
This report isn't exactly what the OP wants. It does not show the entire roster, as those without quals are omitted.
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 29, 2010, 06:59:37 PM
In the eServices Ops Quals module, is there a report I can run that will list my squadron members alongside of their ES quals (even if they don't have one).
Emphasis Mine
What is the point of that? Just print a roster out too. The report I mentioned shows everyone down to GES and Curry. A person is useless ES-wise without them.
Thanks for the help folks :).
Quote from: davidsinn on June 29, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2010, 08:56:19 PM
There is one you can get out of the WMU.
You're not supposed to be using WMU....For the past 5+ years. To the OP yes there is a report. In the ops qual module click reports. You want to use "all qual/achv with data."
Camas beat me with the report.
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Says who?
The WMU is the only place that I (as a squadron bound individual) can pull up the qualifications and availablity of everyone in the wing and region.
If WMU is not to be used....why can you still access it?
There used to be a "National Reports" section on the left side that one could put in any CAP ID and get that persons qualifications. That's disappeared from there now, and WMU/IMU is the only real way to find out "anything" (ES wise) about anyone outside of your unit and when you are dealing with ES it's not always just those inside your unit that you are dealing with.
^ You guys must have unique access in the WMU. All I can see are other people from my wing.
I'm still looking for the memo that states WMU is not to be used. It came out before I joined. Why do you need to pull ES quals for other people? Isn't that the reason for the 101 card? You can still use WMU because it is not an NHQ program. As they alter eServices the crosstalk with WMU is being broken.
I just pulled all the quals for a friend of mine. He's the group CC of a different group than mine. I do not have any wing level permissions. It's in the member qualification report inside the reports module of ops qual. I also just pulled the quals for CAP/CC.
Why do you need WMU again?
Its a Bowling-era decision.
Yes, the 101 card supposed to be the doc. Sometimes people even bring them to missions. ::)
I'm a "bring it or go home" kinda guy, but in some cases there is no home ES at all, and without help from above
or at a SAREx, these orphaned member would never get to play. Its not right, it just "is".
Also, in my wing anyway, SET's are still approved for the whole state, and without that ability our ES program
would grind to a halt.
Okay.....
I use WMU to do qualification searches for everyone in my wing....it gives me a list of all the ,say, GTLs in NVWG.
I need that as a GBD to start building teams.
Same story with any other branch director.
As far as I know I still can't get the same sort of product out of E-service yet.
In eServices, under ops quals, you can select reports. Now, access to these may be unique to your duty position, but I can select "All Qual/ Ach With Data" and it brings up everybody's qualification data by qualification or achievement for the unit I have selected. (Ex- the first one that comes up is Curry, the last is Water Survival, listing everybody who has achieved each one). There is also a "Member Qualification Information" that can be used to look up specific member info. There are lots of other reports as well.
I think that the access to these types of reports is restricted by duty position. I hold ES Officer responsibilities at both my squadron and group levels, so I think I have more access than, say, our Communications Officer. If you are looking for (and have a need for) data for your squadron, it wouldn't hurt to ask to be assigned as an assistant ES officer so that you can get to it in eServices. I hope this is helpful.
That is good....but because I am only assigned to the squadron....I can only see my squadron.
In the WMU I can see the entire wing when I sign in as ES Staff.
And E-services and WMU are still cross talking (at least for this function) as I can see the new Serrogate Predator quals in the WMU.
Hence the reason I use WMU.
Quote from: lordmonar on June 30, 2010, 05:36:20 PM
That is good....but because I am only assigned to the squadron....I can only see my squadron.
In the WMU I can see the entire wing when I sign in as ES Staff.
It's no secret that e-services is very restricted as to what a member has access to and what he or she doesn't. The WMU was not scope-related so that anyone could look up anyone else. If you're "tight" with some of the wing ES people in NVWG you might ask them to run reports for you and forward them to you. I find that, at times, I'll issue temporary permissions to those in my wing on a "need to know" basis so that they can perform their functions. And yes, I'm the wing WSA.
For argument's sake, why would ES quals be a secret or "need to know"?
I'd have no issue letting anyone check me out for that kind of info.
Quote from: Camas on June 30, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 30, 2010, 05:36:20 PM
That is good....but because I am only assigned to the squadron....I can only see my squadron.
In the WMU I can see the entire wing when I sign in as ES Staff.
It's no secret that e-services is very restricted as to what a member has access to and what he or she doesn't. The WMU was not scope-related so that anyone could look up anyone else. If you're "tight" with some of the wing ES people in NVWG you might ask them to run reports for you and forward them to you. I find that, at times, I'll issue temporary permissions to those in my wing on a "need to know" basis so that they can perform their functions. And yes, I'm the wing WSA.
Not acceptable.
I don't need or want to call some one at 01:00 just to find out who the GTLs or Pilots are.....I need that information NOW so I can start call out teams.
WMU gives me that ability now.
Quote from: Eclipse on June 30, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
For argument's sake, why would ES quals be a secret or "need to know"?
I'd have no issue letting anyone check me out for that kind of info.
They are not....per se....I can look up anyone's qualifications in E-services right now.
But I can't get a list of all the GTLs in NVWG in E-services....I can get all the GTLs in my squadron.
Quote from: lordmonar on June 30, 2010, 06:05:20 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 30, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
For argument's sake, why would ES quals be a secret or "need to know"?
I'd have no issue letting anyone check me out for that kind of info.
They are not....per se....I can look up anyone's qualifications in E-services right now.
But I can't get a list of all the GTLs in NVWG in E-services....I can get all the GTLs in my squadron.
Have you tried contacting wing and having them provide you with the roster? Ahead of time I mean. Here in INWG we have to provide an ES roster to wing once a year or anytime we have a major status change like gaining a GTL. That is then provided back down to the people that need it.
Lordmanor - I don't know your ES quals but I would think that if you're an IC you should have that capability now. Before I became a WSA I found myself informing people when I couldn't access certain information that I don't have the access to that information and that I cannot help you. As I stated, e-services is very restricted.
Quote from: Eclipse on June 30, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
For argument's sake, why would ES quals be a secret or "need to know"? I'd have no issue letting anyone check me out for that kind of info.
If someone isn't involved in ES they have no need for that information. ES people typically don't have access to cadet promotions anymore than CP personnel have access to ES-related information or any information not within their area of responsibility. If they need it they can check with the ES officer or the unit commander. Those restricted applications are restricted for a reason - the information is
restricted.
I'm a GBD and AOBD trainnee.
Why should I have to call wing to send me a roster when there is an up to date one in WMU that gives me names, rateings and phone numbers....exactly what I need when I am trying to put together crews?
I also don't understand the reason why you would have to provide a list to wing every year when they can pull the list up anytime they want to.
That is the old school way of doing thing when everything was paper.
Bottom line.....WMU has the information that I need as a GBD/AOBD.....I am going to continue to use it until it is no longer accurate or I have access to the same information from E-services.
By the way, thanks to those who suggested I use All Quals with Data. That worked fine when compared to a squadron roster.
Quote from: lordmonar on June 30, 2010, 06:47:33 PMI also don't understand the reason why you would have to provide a list to wing every year when they can pull the list up anytime they want to.
Because they told me to.
I think the reason is because you may have a GTL but he might not have a team. I know that's the case for me. I do not show up on any alert roster because I currently do not have anything to bring to the table without three more GTMs.
I think eServices should have those reports.
If you are an IC, you can view reports in Ops Quals by any single qual for any single unit or everyone in your wing. You can also run an All Qual report for single units or the entire wing that lists every member with an ES qualification. There is also one at the bottom of the list that lets you define the query fields. If you are helping to staff a mission, your IC should be able to provide you with any or all of this info by email with a few clicks of the mouse.
Quote from: davidsinn on June 30, 2010, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 30, 2010, 06:47:33 PMI also don't understand the reason why you would have to provide a list to wing every year when they can pull the list up anytime they want to.
Because they told me to.
I think the reason is because you may have a GTL but he might not have a team. I know that's the case for me. I do not show up on any alert roster because I currently do not have anything to bring to the table without three more GTMs.
I think eServices should have those reports.
Hence the utility of the WMU qual list. I don't need to worry about if you have a team or if you were reported up to wing....I don't even need wing. I pull up the list for GTLs and start calling.
Quote from: Al Sayre on June 30, 2010, 09:10:03 PM
If you are an IC, you can view reports in Ops Quals by any single qual for any single unit or everyone in your wing. You can also run an All Qual report for single units or the entire wing that lists every member with an ES qualification. There is also one at the bottom of the list that lets you define the query fields. If you are helping to staff a mission, your IC should be able to provide you with any or all of this info by email with a few clicks of the mouse.
Or use the WMU and do it myself. ;)
In WMU, I can get a list of all the Cadet O'ride Pilots, the list of State Director Approved Pilots and what they are approved to do (based on current quals), and their phone numbers. If I had the right permissions, I could do that in e-services ops quals, but I would not have the State Director Approved Pilots list.