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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Dragon 3-2 on June 02, 2010, 08:50:40 PM

Title: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Dragon 3-2 on June 02, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
Yesterday at my meeting and asked me something that in my entire lifetime of being involved with avaition ( 19 out of 21 years ;)} I had never thought of or considered. Needless to say I couldnt answer him.

So now I am asking all of you guys; What gives an aircraft engine its sound, be it Prop or jet.
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Ned on June 02, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
I would reply "air," as neither a prop nor a jet can make a sound in a vacuum.
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: SarDragon on June 02, 2010, 09:07:48 PM
All sound comes from changes in air pressure from different vibration sources. For airplanes, we have several different, but related, methods.

Propellor noise is from the cyclic "beating the air into submission" as the prop rotates.

Reciprocating engine noise is mostly from the cyclic release of combustion products through the exhaust valves.

Jet noise has two interconnected sources - turbine noise, imitating a mechanical siren, and exhaust roar, from the high speed combustion products coming out the tailpipe and making huge pressure changes in the process.

All of the above is an extreme simplification, but that's basically what's happening. Anything that vibrates in air will produce a sound. Some sounds are pleasant, like music. Others are offensive, and even harmful, although some loud music falls into the latter category.
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: SarDragon on June 02, 2010, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: Ned on June 02, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
I would reply "air," as neither a prop nor a jet can make a sound in a vacuum.

Regarding airplanes that is correct.

More broadly, sound can travel through any medium that can be vibrated. Water and bone come to mind as examples of that.
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: BuckeyeDEJ on June 02, 2010, 09:41:49 PM
Does the propeller in the triangle you don't like make a sound?

(dodging tomatoes)
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Dragon 3-2 on June 02, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
thanks for the explanation guys :)
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: davidsinn on June 02, 2010, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Dragon 3-2 on June 02, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
What gives an aircraft engine its sound, be it Prop or jet.

Money. Lots of it.
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Cadet Dan on June 03, 2010, 05:24:29 AM
+1  :clap:     
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Dragon 3-2 on June 03, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
That was brilliant Capt  :clap: ;D
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: davidsinn on June 03, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dragon 3-2 on June 03, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
That was brilliant Capt  :clap: ;D

Thank you. The other option was paperwork. ;D
Title: Re: Cadet asked me something yesterday
Post by: Dragon 3-2 on June 04, 2010, 04:21:38 AM
CAP = Complete All Paperwork....or Come And Pay lol



the cadet says thank you btw ;)