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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: Wolfman21 on May 14, 2010, 02:10:50 PM

Title: BCUT
Post by: Wolfman21 on May 14, 2010, 02:10:50 PM
Hello all,
I was just wondering if the change from needing BCUT to needing ICUT is real and if cadets are included in the change, because I have heard talk about it and wanted to see if there was any more info anyone had on it.
Thanks
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: JC004 on May 14, 2010, 03:14:47 PM
What?  Why would cadets be exempt from this?
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: arajca on May 14, 2010, 03:22:19 PM
It will be real, once I-CUT is released (or escapes).

Cadets will NOT be exempt. Pilots will NOT be exempt. Everyone will need to take I-CUT during their ES qual renewal cycle, even if you just took B-CUT the day before I-CUT came out.

Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.

*sigh* I was afraid someone was going to say that. I don't understand why you would have to re-do or modify training tagged with "advanced" because new training tagged "introductory" came out.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: davidsinn on May 14, 2010, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.

*sigh* I was afraid someone was going to say that. I don't understand why you would have to re-do or modify training tagged with "advanced" because new training tagged "introductory" came out.

The I is integrated not introductory. From what I've heard it's going to be modular and you only take the modules you need for a specific task.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: ßτε on May 14, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on May 14, 2010, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.

*sigh* I was afraid someone was going to say that. I don't understand why you would have to re-do or modify training tagged with "advanced" because new training tagged "introductory" came out.

The I is integrated not introductory. From what I've heard it's going to be modular and you only take the modules you need for a specific task.
I guess they missed that in the CAPR 100-1
Quotea. Introductory Communications Users Training (ICUT). The CAP National Board has approved a plan that will introduce a new ICUT course, taken either on-line or in classroom settings. This course will replace both the Basic Communications User training (BCUT) described in para b. below, and the Advanced Communication Users training (ACUT) described in para 5-3 below.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: davidsinn on May 14, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: bte on May 14, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on May 14, 2010, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.

*sigh* I was afraid someone was going to say that. I don't understand why you would have to re-do or modify training tagged with "advanced" because new training tagged "introductory" came out.

The I is integrated not introductory. From what I've heard it's going to be modular and you only take the modules you need for a specific task.
I guess they missed that in the CAPR 100-1
Quotea. Introductory Communications Users Training (ICUT). The CAP National Board has approved a plan that will introduce a new ICUT course, taken either on-line or in classroom settings. This course will replace both the Basic Communications User training (BCUT) described in para b. below, and the Advanced Communication Users training (ACUT) described in para 5-3 below.

Guess I need to reread 100-1. I just know that was the term thrown around at wing conference. Looks like a lot of people have that wrong.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: arajca on May 14, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
The initial plan was:
I-CUT replaces B-CUT
Permit Holders Module replaces A-CUT

Current plan:
???
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
Will the latter be online like ICUT? I really don't want to do another 4-5 hour class on top of a 2 hour drive if I can help it.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: arajca on May 14, 2010, 08:23:23 PM
It was/is supposed to be.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Wolfman21 on May 14, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Ok, thanks to all.....I hope it starts soon I realy don't want to have to wait 2 years befor I get qual for something (2 years because we have only 1 CUT class a year usealy).  :'(
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: davidsinn on May 15, 2010, 01:34:29 AM
Quote from: Wolfman21 on May 14, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Ok, thanks to all.....I hope it starts soon I realy don't want to have to wait 2 years befor I get qual for something (2 years because we have only 1 CUT class a year usealy).

Just ask your comm officer to have a BCUT class.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Wolfman21 on May 15, 2010, 03:10:34 AM
I have but we've been busy getting ready for the SAREVAL that started today for KYWG.....Our squadron van blew a tire on the way up there and damaged the gas tank so they had a tow truck come get them  :( I hope we get a new van now, we have a VERY old van. The oldest in the wing, sadly to say. Everyone is ok, which is excellent. :)
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Wolfman21 on May 15, 2010, 03:14:03 AM
Were planning on having one the next month or two. :)
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Groner1661 on July 16, 2011, 12:06:42 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on May 14, 2010, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 14, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
A-Cut's, too.

I've been told by my Wing's DC that it will be an online update for existing card holders.

*sigh* I was afraid someone was going to say that. I don't understand why you would have to re-do or modify training tagged with "advanced" because new training tagged "introductory" came out.

The I is integrated not introductory. From what I've heard it's going to be modular and you only take the modules you need for a specific task.


5-1. Requirements for Operating a CAP Radio Station. CAP radio stations are authorized by the Federal Government through the NTIA for emergency, training, and operational activities. Members are authorized to operate CAP radio stations upon certification by wing or higher authority. No CAP member may attend CAP radio operator training without first completing on-line CAP Operational Security (OPSEC) Training and having agreed to the on-line non-disclosure agreement.
a. Introductory Communications Users Training (ICUT). The CAP National Board has approved a plan that will introduce a new ICUT course, taken either on-line or in classroom settings. This course will replace both the Basic Communications User training (BCUT) described in para b. below, and the Advanced Communication Users training (ACUT) described in para 5-3 below. When introduced, interim guidance will be posted on the secure NTC website and announced on the CAP-DC listserv.
Title: What happened to ICUT???
Post by: DakRadz on July 16, 2011, 01:00:33 AM
A) ^^^ This is from 2010... Just FYI.

B) So is ICUT out or what? Any news on what happened to it?
Title: Re: What happened to ICUT???
Post by: arajca on July 16, 2011, 03:36:52 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on July 16, 2011, 01:00:33 AM
A) ^^^ This is from 2010... Just FYI.

B) So is ICUT out or what? Any news on what happened to it?
Officially, there is no release date. So far every date given has been missed and they finally realized the continually missing release dates frustrates members more than not having it out.


Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: Eclipse on July 16, 2011, 04:16:36 AM
Based on a conversation with my Wing's DC last week, the original idea is essentially "dead", and while it is assumed that something online
will come out eventually, there isn't even a conversation about it right not.

A&B will be the "Way" for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: arajca on July 16, 2011, 04:53:17 AM
Which is what I've been telling my instructors for some time.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: DakRadz on July 16, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Ah well. I'm taking BCUT in a week or two anyway. Just wondered if anything had come of this.
Title: Re: BCUT
Post by: RADIOMAN015 on July 16, 2011, 11:27:42 PM
Quote from: DakRadz on July 16, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Ah well. I'm taking BCUT in a week or two anyway. Just wondered if anything had come of this.
No news, is good news in some circles :angel:   We are still using the wing developed slides for B Cut for local classes.  .
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