77-1 specifies placement of the seal. 900-2 authorizes the seal. We are using the command patch. I can't find that ICL or reg change. Where is that? Help!
>:(
+1. My wing transportation officer looked at our seals on the door of our van a few months ago and said, "Oh, you're supposed to have the new insignia, I'll get those to you right away." Which of course he hasn't, but that's another story. I have yet to find where we have changed from the seal to some other insignia, so help please! :)
I believe it was decided at one of the NB meeting in the last year or two, though I'm not sure which one. But as usual, I don't believe any ICLs or reg changes were ever sent down from NHQ.
>:(
More Hip-Shooting Identity Decisions.
The whole thing is just a big fat joke.
At least it's not the triangle thingy ;)
Quote from: Marshalus on May 14, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
At least it's not the triangle thingy ;)
True. Join us. Add the banner to your sig line. >:D
I really thought there was an ICL or something. Anybody?! I don't understand...
Any wing logistics people here who maybe got a memo?
I'm trying to collect all the
current guidance on brand-related stuff for http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=10501.0
The change was documented and distributed in a memo dated 13 March 2007 and was addressed to All Region and Wing Commanders. This memo states:
"New decals that were approved at the November NEC meeting are now available for all aircraft and
vehicles. Decals for vehicles have already been mailed to all Region and Wing headquarters and decals for
aircraft doors and tails are available from NHQ. This letter contains installation instructions that are
effective upon receipt. Comply as soon as practical, but all vehicles and aircraft must be modified by
31 May or their next visit to the maintenance shop, whichever comes first. These procedures will be
incorporated into the next editions of CAPR 77-1, Operation and Maintenance of CAP Vehicles and CAPR
66-1, CAP Aircraft Maintenance Management.
Vehicles
To ensure good adhesion and best appearance, remove the current door decal before installing the new
decal. Thus far these decals have proven somewhat difficult to remove so exercise caution to prevent
injury to yourself or the vehicle. Professional assistance may be required. The cost to install these new
door decals shall be borne by the units responsible for the vehicle's maintenance.
Install the new vehicle door decals in the vertical and horizontal center of the driver and passenger doors of
all CAP vehicles. If the vehicle has the website decal installed below the current door decal and it
interferes with the installation of the new door decal, remove it and contact the NHQ CAP/LGT office for a
replacement website decal. The number of vehicle decals mailed was based on the number of vehicles
listed on the region/wing current S-2 vehicle inventory. If enough decals were not received please contact
Mr. Duane Schultz, the NHQ CAP/LGT, at dschultz@cap.gov or 334-953-1601.
Aircraft
Decals for all corporate aircraft are in stock and ready for shipment. Contact Mr. Dan Daniel at
ddaniel@cap.gov or 334-953-6032 to order decals if you have not already received them. Installation fees
up to $200 for each aircraft in the Consolidated Aircraft Maintenance Program will be paid by NHQ.
Installation costs for all other wings should be paid from aircraft minor maintenance funds. Aircraft with
red tails will receive white letter decals and aircraft with white or other tail colors will receive blue letter
decals. Installation guides are provided with each set of decals shipped.
Gippsland GA-8 aircraft require the tail to be repainted before the new tail decal can be installed. Send
quotes for GA-8 decal installation to Mr. Daniel, for approval, before any work is done.
ANTONIO J. PINEDA
Major General, CAP
National Commander"
Thank you!
Quote from: Lord of the North on May 15, 2010, 03:46:45 AM
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The cost to install these new door decals shall be borne by the units responsible for the vehicle's maintenance.
...
...aaaaaaand reading between the lines: "I hope you aren't having trouble fundraising at your unit. We'll be changing these on you AGAIN soon, so please comply with this ASAP."
Quote from: JC004 on May 14, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
True. Join us. Add the banner to your sig line. >:D
I've taken that as an open invitation.
Quote from: A.Member on May 15, 2010, 04:06:39 AM
Quote from: JC004 on May 14, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
True. Join us. Add the banner to your sig line. >:D
I've taken that as an open invitation.
It is. http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=10501.msg192025#msg192025
They're popping up everywhere. Love it. :)
Quote from: JC004 on May 14, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Marshalus on May 14, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
At least it's not the triangle thingy ;)
True. Join us. Add the banner to your sig line. >:D
I really thought there was an ICL or something. Anybody?! I don't understand...
Any wing logistics people here who maybe got a memo?
I'm trying to collect all the current guidance on brand-related stuff for http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=10501.0
I'm trying to hold a grasp on what it wrong with the CAP Triangle... am I missing something?
So you are blindly following a movement that you aren't even tuned into enough to basically understand?
I hope you aren't old enough to vote.
Check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_dilution) out. Having too many "symbols" associated with our name confuses people.
Quote from: C/SSgt Lunsford on May 16, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
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I'm trying to hold a grasp on what it wrong with the CAP Triangle... am I missing something?
First, I recommend doing a backspace in your sig line - that'll bring the two banners onto the same line and take up less space.
As I've stated, this is not the CAP triangle. This is something else that pops up randomly. It is not an official symbol of Civil Air Patrol. It has not been approved by our National Board or NEC. No change to 900-2 was made.
In addition to that, it is hard to read, inconsistently used, does not reflect the OFFICIAL, traditional symbols which have come down all of the way from WWII, etc., etc., etc.
It adds to our number of logos and symbols when we ALREADY have too many all over everything.
Allow me to try an exercise. Think of these companies visually: McDonald's, Coca-Cola, Nike, Pepsico, Wendy's, Starbucks. Are you thinking "
which logo?!" for each one? Of course not, they change over time, usually remaining rooted in the original, often strongly, but you know the visual identity of these companies - their logo, colors, etc. Any serious company or organization that cares about their brand has what is called a style guide, which is quite simply, a guide to the styles used to represent the organization - the colors, logos, spacing, typeface, etc. That is a large part of what we are supporting here.
It's that simple.