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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: Major Carrales on April 25, 2010, 03:50:21 AM

Title: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Major Carrales on April 25, 2010, 03:50:21 AM
Folks,

I was in Bishop, Texas when this happened however...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/us2010vmab.php

An earthquake in South Texas.

How does this relate to CAP.  Well, it does to show that the idea of Semper Vigilans is more than a mere motto.  Anything can happen anywhere at anytime...we have to be prepared.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: C/MSgt Lunsford on April 25, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
Quote7 km (4 miles) SSW (200°) from Rancho Banquete, TX
12 km (8 miles) WNW (290°) from La Paloma-Lost Creek, TX
13 km (8 miles) W (267°) from Spring Garden-Terra Verde, TX
21 km (13 miles) E (89°) from Alice, TX
45 km (28 miles) W (272°) from Corpus Christi, TX
570 km (354 miles) S (191°) from Dallas, TX

I agree that CAP should take part in GES... but this was about 350 miles away from Dallas. It is not going to make National News or send out alerts Nation Wide. Plus I believe the quake was only 4.0.

Sir, this relates to CAP because it is a Natural Disaster. CAP is an organization that is trained to deal with Emergency Situations... like said quake. And you are correct about Semper Vi being more than a mere motto, it is something we should live.

You are absolutely correct about anything happening anywhere at anytime... that is why CAP is prepared to serve it's Nation in the ES Field.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
Eh, just a little jiggle.

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.html

There have been 4 or 5 that big in the last week out here. Nine hundred+ overall just on that map in the last week.

As far as CAP preparedness goes, there's not a lot you can do, except what you get assigned if you get called out for DR stuff. I understand there was significant CAWG participation during the Northridge quake.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Major Carrales on April 25, 2010, 06:04:38 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
Eh, just a little jiggle.

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.html

There have been 4 or 5 that big in the last week out here. Nine hundred+ overall just on that map in the last week.

As far as CAP preparedness goes, there's not a lot you can do, except what you get assigned if you get called out for DR stuff. I understand there was significant CAWG participation during the Northridge quake.

Sir, in a place like South Texas 50 degrees F is cold, Corpus Christi is a METROPLOLIS and any earthquake is a significant event.

I should very much like to know why this earthquake took place...as in what geologic forces might have been at work.  I am told there are fault lines here but of which type I am greatly curious.  Might it have been some underground gas event...an explosion? 

This has happened before in the late 1990s, as did happen an ebola outbreak at a simeon reseach facility...and always in ALICE, TEXAS.

Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 06:35:30 AM
If you click the Maps tab on the page you linked, and then click the Location Maps link on that page, it will tell you a lot more about the event. It appears to be an isolated event.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: RRLE on April 25, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
Quotewhy this earthquake took place...as in what geologic forces might have been at work

Tectonic Map of Texas (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/geo/pics/tectonic2.jpg)

Based on some very fast research, this area of Texas and its fault lines may be related to the ancient Ouachita orogeny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouachita_orogeny).

Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: PHall on April 25, 2010, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
As far as CAP preparedness goes, there's not a lot you can do, except what you get assigned if you get called out for DR stuff. I understand there was significant CAWG participation during the Northridge quake.


Your understanding is a bit flawed.

We didn't do a whole lot in the official DR mission (FEMA and the USAR teams handled it.).
But we did a lot, and for several weeks, working with/for the Red Cross.
We ended up running their distribution center at Van Nuys Airport and many of the Red Cross vehicles that were delivering meals and such were manned with mixed CAP/ARC crews.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Major Carrales on April 25, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: RRLE on April 25, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
Quotewhy this earthquake took place...as in what geologic forces might have been at work

Tectonic Map of Texas (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/geo/pics/tectonic2.jpg)

Based on some very fast research, this area of Texas and its fault lines may be related to the ancient Ouachita orogeny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouachita_orogeny).

Thank you, that was a quality response.  Now I can begin studying this in more detail.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Al Sayre on April 25, 2010, 05:18:49 PM
Better hold on tomorrow...  ;D >:D

Courtesy of Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/23/boobquake-cleavage-cause-earthquakes/

Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: PHall on April 25, 2010, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on April 25, 2010, 05:18:49 PM
Better hold on tomorrow...  ;D >:D

Courtesy of Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/23/boobquake-cleavage-cause-earthquakes/

Well, that would explain all the quakes we get in California. >:D
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Al Sayre on April 25, 2010, 07:26:18 PM
Gonna be a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.  ;D ;D ;D >:D
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: PHall on April 25, 2010, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
As far as CAP preparedness goes, there's not a lot you can do, except what you get assigned if you get called out for DR stuff. I understand there was significant CAWG participation during the Northridge quake.


Your understanding is a bit flawed.

We didn't do a whole lot in the official DR mission (FEMA and the USAR teams handled it.).
But we did a lot, and for several weeks, working with/for the Red Cross.
We ended up running their distribution center at Van Nuys Airport and many of the Red Cross vehicles that were delivering meals and such were manned with mixed CAP/ARC crews.

That sounds like significant to me.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: PHall on April 25, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: PHall on April 25, 2010, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 25, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
As far as CAP preparedness goes, there's not a lot you can do, except what you get assigned if you get called out for DR stuff. I understand there was significant CAWG participation during the Northridge quake.


Your understanding is a bit flawed.

We didn't do a whole lot in the official DR mission (FEMA and the USAR teams handled it.).
But we did a lot, and for several weeks, working with/for the Red Cross.
We ended up running their distribution center at Van Nuys Airport and many of the Red Cross vehicles that were delivering meals and such were manned with mixed CAP/ARC crews.

That sounds like significant to me.

Depends on who you ask.

Ask AFRCC or FEMA, we didn't do much. Ask ARC or CalEMA, we did a lot.
Most of the stuff we did was classed as a Corperate or "State" mission.
Title: Re: Earthquake in Texas
Post by: Cherokeepilot on April 25, 2010, 08:33:51 PM
Folks.......
From a ES point of view, any quake of any size is of importance.  The biggest recorded quake in Texas was in the Big Bend area just west of Marfia--Alpine area in a little town of Valentine many year ago.  The importance of quakes is not in just the size, but the number and frequency.  For my position in emergency planning and oversight, I am restricting my alerts on quakes to 2.5 and above.  There is an issue of swarms of quakes occurring in different parts of Texas along all sorts of fault lines.  Dallas-Ft.Worth area and south along the Balcones Fault which runs down through Austin towards our friend Sparky's hometown has been active for the past couple of years.  DFW activity has concerned some of our worrywort treehuggers about drilling activity being the cause of the quakes. 

The past FEMA tabletop exercise evolved about the New Madrid quake area in the mid states area.  The analysis of the financial and economic and governmental impacts will be huge.  Also, the interstate highway system will be down and only certain types of air travel will really count.  Food distribution will be a major problem.  Think about that as a ES planning issue. 8)