C/BGen

[a2capt]

Only six of you?
I guess we didn't have all the states yet ..   and didn't have all these regions.

Back in the day when news traveled by carrier pigeon and pony express. Air mail was when the Stearman went overhead and turned inverted so the mail bag would fall out onto the meadow below.

[Grumpy]

It goes like this (in my mind):
C/WO - 1 gold circle
C/2LT - 1 silver circle
C/1LT - 2 silver circles
C/CPT - 3 silver circles
C/MAJ - 1 silver diamond
C/LTC - 2 silver diamonds
C/COL - 3 silver diamonds

So where does the gold diamond come in, or was the rank structure a lot different way back when?

Oh, and notice the diamond in the C/MSGT chevron

I wore that rank back in 1962.  The diamond indicates First Sergeant.  When I left that position, I lost the diamond.

[NIN]

Back in the 1970s and into the 1980s, MI Wing would award "discretionary grade" for encampment. You got picked to be a Flight Commander, you got frocked to C/1Lt for the duration of the encampment. (yes, you frequently had cadets who would wear their impending grade to their unit meeting the week before encampment, or the week after, claiming "Oh, I had to sew it on.." *boot to the head*)

At the time, the Cadet Commander of encampment was a discretionary C/Col.  Well, this didn't sit well with some folks (*cough*Spaatz Mafia *cough*), so instead of making the Cadet Commander a c/Lt Col, Some Joker™ came up with the Bright Idea™ to make the Cadet Commander a C/BG.

I have seen (although not worn) C/BG in all forms. Cloth, shoulder boards, full-size, minis, etc. 

The full-size and mini- C/BG were made by soldering together 2 C/Lt Col.  The cloth were also 2 C/Lt Col stitched together.  In the interest of discretionary-ness, the cloth insignia was built around a 2 or 3 ribbon bar so it could be pinned on.

The C/BG for the shoulder boards was most interesting.  Since 4 full-size diamonds placed vertex-to-vertex would exceed the width of the shoulder boards, the diamonds were cut down slightly where they met to fit on the boards. They actually looked *quite* cool.

[JayT]

Opps, didn't see that link already posted on this thread

[Devil Doc]

is it me or do some of them cadets in chicago have their ribbons on the wrong side?

[MSG Mac]

The rule is when wearing medals, they are worn on the left. ribbons that . do not have medals are worn on the right. So if you were to wear your Purple Heart, Achievement Medal, Good Conduct, Iraq, and GWOT medals,shown in your signature block, the CAR, NUC, and MUC would be worn on the right side.

[Grumpy]

The rule is when wearing medals, they are worn on the left. ribbons that . do not have medals are worn on the right. So if you were to wear your Purple Heart, Achievement Medal, Good Conduct, Iraq, and GWOT medals,shown in your signature block, the CAR, NUC, and MUC would be worn on the right side.

Dang.  I thought it was just old age and my eyes were going bad.  Learn something new every day.

[abdsp51]

The rule is when wearing medals, they are worn on the left. ribbons that . do not have medals are worn on the right. So if you were to wear your Purple Heart, Achievement Medal, Good Conduct, Iraq, and GWOT medals,shown in your signature block, the CAR, NUC, and MUC would be worn on the right side.

For which branch? USAF, AFJROTC, AFROTC, and us wear all ribbons regardless of medal or not on the left.

[BGNightfall]

US Navy and USMC do this... US Army habitually wear unit awards on the right, personal on the left.  For what it's worth, in the Navy, this is only the practice when wearing full-size medals, which is not done in the USAF (unless you're the CSAF or CMSAF and get the Dress Snazzy Uniform (DSU))

[abdsp51]

US Navy and USMC do this... US Army habitually wear unit awards on the right, personal on the left.  For what it's worth, in the Navy, this is only the practice when wearing full-size medals, which is not done in the USAF (unless you're the CSAF or CMSAF and get the Dress Snazzy Uniform (DSU))

Depending on the function the presidential honor guard  wears full medals.

[Devil Doc]

Thats what i was mentioning, i know which medals i would wear on my right and left on my dress blues. I thaught cadets/jrotc only wore them on the left side, medals and all. When i was in Army and Navy JROTC thats how it was, unless branches are different?

[niferous]

I attended Marine Military Academy and we wore the dress blues. In MCJROTC if you are awarded an actual medal and in Dress Blue Alphas you wore the medal on the left and your ribbons on the right with no shooting badges. The thing that made it look off was that most of the time only juniors and seniors re awarded medals and the most I ever saw someone get was three or four. Where as they would have nine to twelve ribbons at most, many just had six. So they'd have six ribbons on the right and only one medal on the left.

Even at MMA we had a cadet Lieutenant Colonel and that was the highest you could go.

I went to Texas A&M for my masters and their Corps of Cadets has a four diamond Corps Commander but they don't refer to them as a brigadier general. Just as the Corps Commander. Now the mascot for the school is a collie dog named Revilee. It's actually the highest ranking, um living animal, in the Corps of Cadets and has five diamonds.

Finally before MMA I attended a military school in Indiana called Howe Military Institute. I was too young for MMA so that's where I went. Anyway it has three different "divisions" in their school and one of them was eight graders and below. They had their own company commanders, officers, etc. to distinguish the under school officers from the upper school officers they used gold rank instead of silver for the under school officers. So a company commander in the under school would have three gold pips. They also use this system in schools where they have a highschool military prep academy and then a military college.

[MSG Mac]

US Navy and USMC do this... US Army habitually wear unit awards on the right, personal on the left.  For what it's worth, in the Navy, this is only the practice when wearing full-size medals, which is not done in the USAF (unless you're the CSAF or CMSAF and get the Dress Snazzy Uniform (DSU))

When wearing Medals in all branches they are worn on the left. Any ribbons (IE Unit Citations, Overseas ribbon Army Service Ribbon, Honor Graduate, etc) are worn on the right. What (J)ROTC, Military Schools, and others wear do not concern me, though I wonder how all the JROTC cadets get away with all the intermixed insignia. 

[niferous]

US Navy and USMC do this... US Army habitually wear unit awards on the right, personal on the left.  For what it's worth, in the Navy, this is only the practice when wearing full-size medals, which is not done in the USAF (unless you're the CSAF or CMSAF and get the Dress Snazzy Uniform (DSU))

When wearing Medals in all branches they are worn on the left. Any ribbons (IE Unit Citations, Overseas ribbon Army Service Ribbon, Honor Graduate, etc) are worn on the right. What (J)ROTC, Military Schools, and others wear do not concern me, though I wonder how all the JROTC cadets get away with all the intermixed insignia.

Army does not wear there ribbons that don't have according medals on the right when wearing ribbons. Just unit awards.

[Nathan]

is it me or do some of them cadets in chicago have their ribbons on the wrong side?

[Devil Doc]

^ Funny, but so true,

[Treadhead]

http://chicagojrotc.entest.org/city_corps_staff.jsp

^^^ Here's a Cadet Brigadier General in JROTC (4 diamonds)

With respect to the General. he might want to think about having his uniform pressed... 

[Luis R. Ramos]

Tread-

I do not think he needs to get his uniform pressed. It looks that way, because I think he is using a coat one or two sizes too small...

Just sayin' like you, with respect to him...

Flyer

[Майор Хаткевич]

He is a CAP Mitchell cadet. I assume at IL312

[Luis R. Ramos]

Yeah.