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10-1 Email Signature Setup

Started by Jon Moser, January 19, 2015, 11:45:55 PM

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Jon Moser

For those IT people out there that have to help set this up, here's what I did for Thunderbird which allows you to point to an HTML file for a signature. Feel free to use and modify it to save yourselves some time. It might not be the most elegant thing in the world but it works...

Don't forget to grab the images from the 10-1 PDF first ;)


<p>
<img src="file:///c:/Users/Jon/Documents/Thunderbird%20Signatures/capbanner.png">
<br/>
<br/>
<span style="color: rgb(3,66,122); font-weight: bold;">Capt Jon Moser, CAP</span>
<br/>
<span style="color: rgb(128,128,128);">Tucson Composite Squadron 105 Deputy Commander for Seniors</span>
<br/>
<span style="color: rgb(128,128,128);">(C) removed</span>
<br/>
<span style="color: rgb(3,66,122);">Air Force Auxiliary</span>
<br/>
<a href="www.gocivilairpatrol.com">gocivilairpatrol.com</a>
<br/>
<a href="tucsoncap.us">tucsoncap.us</a>
<br/>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Civil-Air-Patrol/107647995924164"><img src="file:///c:/Users/Jon/Documents/Thunderbird%20Signatures/facebookicon.png"></a>
<a href="http://instagram.com/civil__air__patrol"><img src="file:///c:/Users/Jon/Documents/Thunderbird%20Signatures/instagramicon.png"></a>
<a href="https://twitter.com/civilairpatrol"><img src="file:///c:/Users/Jon/Documents/Thunderbird%20Signatures/twittericon.png"></a>
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/civilairpatrol/sets/"><img src="file:///c:/Users/Jon/Documents/Thunderbird%20Signatures/flickricon.png"></a>
</p>


EDITED: edited to include changes mentioned below by Timothy Medeiros. Thanks Tim!
JONATHAN R. MOSER, Capt, CAP
Director of IT
Southwest Region

Eclipse

#1
And for any email system which does not allow HTML in the body of the message,
that mess above is what your recipient sees, assuming the message isn't just bounced.

Jon - that's not a swipe at you, that's what it looks like, just a comment to whomever
decided this was a "Good Idea".

"That Others May Zoom"

Jon Moser

No worries Eclipse, I didn't take it that way. I agree this was a terrible decision.

It appears that I still have some work to do with spacing between the lines. It looks fine when sent and read in Thunderbird, but doesn't look quite right when the message is read in GMail. I don't do much HTML/CSS work so I could be missing something simple. I'll update the code if/when I figure it out.
JONATHAN R. MOSER, Capt, CAP
Director of IT
Southwest Region

Eclipse

Quote from: Jon Moser on January 20, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
No worries Eclipse, I didn't take it that way. I agree this was a terrible decision.

It appears that I still have some work to do with spacing between the lines. It looks fine when sent and read in Thunderbird, but doesn't look quite right when the message is read in GMail. I don't do much HTML/CSS work so I could be missing something simple. I'll update the code if/when I figure it out.

I've had the same issue - the windows size and word wrap can break it as well
It's all FUBAR in one window and fine in another because of how much line is available.

"That Others May Zoom"

Tim Medeiros

Quote from: Jon Moser on January 20, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
No worries Eclipse, I didn't take it that way. I agree this was a terrible decision.

It appears that I still have some work to do with spacing between the lines. It looks fine when sent and read in Thunderbird, but doesn't look quite right when the message is read in GMail. I don't do much HTML/CSS work so I could be missing something simple. I'll update the code if/when I figure it out.
It appears to be an issue with using the p tags.  try something along the lines of

<p><span style="color: rgb(3,66,122); font-weight: bold; height: 0;">Capt Jon Moser, CAP</span><br />
<span style="color: rgb(128,128,128); height: 0;">Tucson Composite Squadron 105 Deputy Commander for Seniors</span><br />
<span style="color: rgb(128,128,128); height: 0;">(C) removed</span><br />
<span style="color: rgb(3,66,122); height: 0;">Air Force Auxiliary</span></p>

Of course not forgetting the image above and the stuff below that bit.
TIMOTHY R. MEDEIROS, Lt Col, CAP
Chair, National IT Functional User Group
1577/2811

Майор Хаткевич

National wants us to use this...why do we have to grab crummy images from a PDF? Can't they send out code for people?

a2capt




A great idea .. perhaps, for somewhere else.


Like the urban legend .. the Chevy Nova in Mexico, Osco Drugs in Southern California ..


This whole thing with all the social media services .. so what are we promoting? Ourselves, or the message content, or "here, go screw around and look at Twitbook, Friend Pile, etc. "


No thanks, I'll Pass...



a2capt

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on January 20, 2015, 04:17:58 AMNational wants us to use this...why do we have to grab crummy images from a PDF? Can't they send out code for people?
Don't remember the pink "CAP Cares" gif? ;-)


There's certainly a lot of mis-fires coming from the heart of Alabama ..

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: a2capt on January 20, 2015, 04:41:34 AM
Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on January 20, 2015, 04:17:58 AMNational wants us to use this...why do we have to grab crummy images from a PDF? Can't they send out code for people?
Don't remember the pink "CAP Cares" gif? ;-)


There's certainly a lot of mis-fires coming from the heart of Alabama ..

Must have missed it. I only joined in 2003, not 1993.

Storm Chaser


Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on January 20, 2015, 04:17:58 AM
National wants us to use this...why do we have to grab crummy images from a PDF? Can't they send out code for people?

National may want us to use this, but there's no way I'm adding that mess to my e-mail signature block. It doesn't look professional and it still doesn't conform to the standard signature block of CAPR 10-1 (yes, I know they added the example to Attachment 5).

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Storm Chaser on January 20, 2015, 05:19:32 PM

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on January 20, 2015, 04:17:58 AM
National wants us to use this...why do we have to grab crummy images from a PDF? Can't they send out code for people?

National may want us to use this, but there's no way I'm adding that mess to my e-mail signature block. It doesn't look professional and it still doesn't conform to the standard signature block of CAPR 10-1 (yes, I know they added the example to Attachment 5).


Aside from all that, why aren't they? All they are guaranteeing is hundreds of "versions" of this, based on "close enough".

Papabird

Next issue.  Google Inbox doesn't even allow for signatures!  (I switched to Inbox as soon as it was available.)

And no I am not going to type that code out every time I send an email!

Highly unrealistic expectation and "totally, last century"!
Michael Willis, Lt. Col CAP
Georgia Wing

Jon Moser

Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Next issue.  Google Inbox doesn't even allow for signatures!  (I switched to Inbox as soon as it was available.)

And no I am not going to type that code out every time I send an email!

Highly unrealistic expectation and "totally, last century"!

I did the same, though since it is an early beta release (by invite only) I figure they will add signature ability somewhere down the line. Last I checked you can still use GMail alongside Inbox for signatures (though it doesn't support the right text colors for this one).

Generally speaking, I would be cautious about making changes in order to support a program still at that level of beta testing.
JONATHAN R. MOSER, Capt, CAP
Director of IT
Southwest Region

Papabird

Quote from: Jon Moser on January 21, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Highly unrealistic expectation and "totally, last century"!
I did the same, though since it is an early beta release (by invite only) I figure they will add signature ability somewhere down the line. Last I checked you can still use GMail alongside Inbox for signatures (though it doesn't support the right text colors for this one).
Generally speaking, I would be cautious about making changes in order to support a program still at that level of beta testing.

All I am saying is that formal signatures are going away in most email forms.  Mostly because of this type of signature silliness.

How many graphics we will be required to put on a 5 word e-mail?  The is a waste of resources; our time, total bandwidth, and storage space for sure.  And how will any of these really impact our membership or do our missions better?  I can't imagine someone clicking on those little icons and getting anything of real benefit.  If I want see the Facebook of someone, I will search them up.  If CAP has it is hidden, then THAT is the problem!
Michael Willis, Lt. Col CAP
Georgia Wing

A.Member

It's rare to get such an overwhelming consensus on issues/topics these days.  National should take note.  The silly signature block they made up needs to go;  CAPR 10-1 was fine before this latest hack job. 
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

Майор Хаткевич

I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with mine:

Michael Hatkevich, Capt, CAP
Palwaukee Composite Squadron
Cell: xxx.xxx.xxxx

jeders

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on January 21, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with mine:

Michael Hatkevich, Capt, CAP
Palwaukee Composite Squadron
Cell: xxx.xxx.xxxx

Simple, there are only three lines of signature; which means that it's entirely possible that your email will be longer than your sig. Everyone knows you have to have at least 8 lines of signature and multiple graphics before you are considered a professional. [/sarcasm]

Just as an aside, the USDA is one of my customers and their email signatures range from 6 lines for a local supervisor to 11 lines (with the name being twice the size of everything else) for a mid level person to 16 lines including social media links and disclaimers for a state level director. These signatures are on all emails, both internal and external. Seen in that light, as childish as this new CAP sig block looks, it's actually fairly tame and muted.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

Storm Chaser


Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Jon Moser on January 21, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Highly unrealistic expectation and "totally, last century"!
I did the same, though since it is an early beta release (by invite only) I figure they will add signature ability somewhere down the line. Last I checked you can still use GMail alongside Inbox for signatures (though it doesn't support the right text colors for this one).
Generally speaking, I would be cautious about making changes in order to support a program still at that level of beta testing.
How many graphics we will be required to put on a 5 word e-mail?  The is a waste of resources; our time, total bandwidth, and storage space for sure.

My wing's e-mail system has a max storage capacity of 100MB per account. My work e-mail has a max of 90MB. Adding these graphics to every CAP e-mail being sent or received will just continue to eat away the limited storage available on some of these services, with minimum (if any) return on investment.

I think NHQ needs to go back to the drawing board on this one.

Eclipse

#18
Quote from: Storm Chaser on January 21, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
My wing's e-mail system has a max storage capacity of 100MB per account. My work e-mail has a max of 90MB.

You make a fair point, but seriously, it's 2015.

Quote from: Storm Chaser on January 21, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
I think NHQ needs to go back to the drawing board on this one.

Or just revert the reg and move on.  I was thinking about this today and realized two things.

In a CAP world where "internet" is still considered an actual "activity" for many members -
to be partaken only one or twice a week with a glass of Chardonnay and candlelight, not
to mention all the members who contact outside agencies with emails like "cutiepilot69@juno.com"
and "maverickrangerwarroir 876543@aol.com" (SIC) that anything like this is workable is amusing at best
I guess hope spring eternal.

But more importantly, NHQ has the power to make this happen, immediately, for free.
Simple give every member a .gov email address and enforce a domain-level signature.
We'd all hate it, but there'd be no choice in the matter, and NHQ can format it any way they want.

Done.

"That Others May Zoom"

JeffDG

Quote from: Storm Chaser on January 21, 2015, 06:15:30 PM

Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Jon Moser on January 21, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: Papabird on January 21, 2015, 02:18:46 PM
Highly unrealistic expectation and "totally, last century"!
I did the same, though since it is an early beta release (by invite only) I figure they will add signature ability somewhere down the line. Last I checked you can still use GMail alongside Inbox for signatures (though it doesn't support the right text colors for this one).
Generally speaking, I would be cautious about making changes in order to support a program still at that level of beta testing.
How many graphics we will be required to put on a 5 word e-mail?  The is a waste of resources; our time, total bandwidth, and storage space for sure.

My wing's e-mail system has a max storage capacity of 100MB per account. My work e-mail has a max of 90MB. Adding these graphics to every CAP e-mail being sent or received will just continue to eat away the limited storage available on some of these services, with minimum (if any) return on investment.

I think NHQ needs to go back to the drawing board on this one.
Good lord...get your wing to adopt Google Apps...30GB per user.