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Longest TIG

Started by JeffDG, December 30, 2014, 02:40:12 AM

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JeffDG

I was looking at some stats today, and found some folks who have definitely met the TIG for promotion.

Our current record holder is a Captain who promoted in July of 1974.  Our #2 is a Lt Col who reached that grade before two other current Lt Cols were born (1976).  Record for Major is 1979.  1st Lt:  1984, 2nd Lt:  2006.

What are you guys records for longevity in grade?

MSG Mac

Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

PHall

If they're happy with their current grade, what's the problem.
It's not like we have an "Up or Out Policy" in CAP if you're a senior member.

a2capt

I wouldn't quite say that a Lt Col has enough TIG for promotion, unless you mean -from- Major.

For the vast majority of CAP members, that's the end of the line, grade wise.

AlphaSigOU

Got promoted to Lt Col in July; after it becomes permanent in less than a year my chances at having chickens on my shoulder are slim to none!
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

SarDragon

Capt 1989-2003

Maj - 2003-current; I was promoted under duress, otherwise I'd have almost 26 yrs TIG as Capt
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Flying Pig

I was a 1LT for about 10yr.  Made Capt after my 1yr as Sq CC rolled around.

THRAWN

Made major in 2001, and retired in grade in April 2014.
Strup-"Belligerent....at times...."
AFRCC SMC 10-97
NSS ISC 05-00
USAF SOS 2000
USAF ACSC 2011
US NWC 2016
USMC CSCDEP 2023

DoubleSecret

I know a lieutenant colonel whose date of rank falls in 1968. 

Anyone who has been serving in grade since the LBJ administration probably deserves a look for bird colonel, IMO.

The CyBorg is destroyed

Captain 1997-2000, 2004-2007, 2009-infinity.
Exiled from GLR-MI-011

DoubleSecret

Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Captain 1997-2000, 2004-2007, 2009-infinity.

So, 5 years TIG.

The CyBorg is destroyed

Quote from: DoubleSecret on December 30, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Captain 1997-2000, 2004-2007, 2009-infinity.

So, 5 years TIG.

I know my math skills are somewhere at the Sesame Street level but I would count:
1997-2000 - 3 years
2004-2007 - 3 years
2009-present - 5 years

11 years total, though not consecutive.
Exiled from GLR-MI-011

MacGruff

We have a Senior Member in our squadron with a join date in 1980. Not interested in promoting, or doing any Professional Development beyond the minimum requirements, but renews every year.

Eclipse

^ This - the problem with all the empty shirts is they skew all the statistics.

"That Others May Zoom"

LSThiker

Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Quote from: DoubleSecret on December 30, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Captain 1997-2000, 2004-2007, 2009-infinity.

So, 5 years TIG.

I know my math skills are somewhere at the Sesame Street level but I would count:
1997-2000 - 3 years
2004-2007 - 3 years
2009-present - 5 years

11 years total, though not consecutive.

If you are out for more than 2 years, your TIG resets to zero.

vorteks

Quote from: Eclipse on December 30, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
^ This - the problem with all the empty shirts is they skew all the statistics.

That is offensive. I have a cadet in the program and I joined because the squadron needs help. But I have neither the time nor much inclination (not to mention the means) to persue PD. Does that make me an "empty shirt"? The non-member cadet parents don't seem to think so. And neither does the CC, irrespective of the statistics.

catrulz

Quote from: LSThiker on December 30, 2014, 05:21:06 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Quote from: DoubleSecret on December 30, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on December 30, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Captain 1997-2000, 2004-2007, 2009-infinity.

So, 5 years TIG.

I know my math skills are somewhere at the Sesame Street level but I would count:
1997-2000 - 3 years
2004-2007 - 3 years
2009-present - 5 years

11 years total, though not consecutive.

If you are out for more than 2 years, your TIG resets to zero.

This is not true, TIG does not reset to zero if your out for more than 2 years (it resets to zero for the E-services modules).  We just successfully promoted a major to LtCol that had a 10 year break, with only 2.5 as major since his return.  These promotions simply can't be submitted in e-services, but must be submitted on a CAPF 2.  Proof of total TIG must be provided on a duty performance promotion.  This promotion was approved by 4 Levels above squadron (group, wing, region and national).  CAPR 35-5 does not state that TIG must be contiguous.  This is not the first duty performance promotion I have processed with split TIG either, just the highest we have ever processed.  The individual has been a LtCol for about 4 months now.

CAPR 35-5 does say that former grade reinstatement is not automatic after a 2 year break.  Perhaps that's what your referring to.

Eclipse

#17
Quote from: veritec on December 30, 2014, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on December 30, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
^ This - the problem with all the empty shirts is they skew all the statistics.

That is offensive. I have a cadet in the program and I joined because the squadron needs help. But I have neither the time nor much inclination (not to mention the means) to persue PD. Does that make me an "empty shirt"? The non-member cadet parents don't seem to think so. And neither does the CC, irrespective of the statistics.

It's only "offensive" if you believe it refers to you.  If you are in the program with no interest in PD, then you should probably
be a cadet sponsor, not a full member.

For the record I was referring to check-writers that linger on the rolls for years and sometimes decades after leaving the program.

"That Others May Zoom"

Eclipse

Quote from: catrulz on December 30, 2014, 05:42:31 PM
This is not true, TIG does not reset to zero if your out for more than 2 years (it resets to zero for the E-services modules).  We just successfully promoted a major to LtCol that had a 10 year break, with only 2.5 as major since his return. 

Why would you submit someone for promotion who was gone for ten years and didn't even qualify for the grade when they left?

"That Others May Zoom"

Phil Hirons, Jr.

RI Wing has a Lt Col with a 1968 promotion date. She's approaching the 60 years of CAP service.