CAP phase-in time for ABU's

[jb512]

I am not sold at all with the ABU, and I would probably wait until the very last day for it...

And nothing is forcing you to wear it either. You can always wear the Blue BDU instead.

No one really wears that, do they?

I've only seen a few, but just because of their facial hair.  What I've seen a lot more of is those who are busting out of their BDUs who should be wearing the BBDUs...

[JayT]

It was a joke.

I haven't worn woodland BDUs in about a year.

[jb512]

It was a joke.

The sad thing is that mine wasn't...   

[JayT]

No arguements there.

[DHollywood]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

[jb512]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

We'd love to do that, but not all of ours meet the weight/grooming standards.

[JayT]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

What if a cadet is fifteen pounds overweight and over eighteen?

What if a SM refuses to shave?

What if my BDUs are in the wash, and all I have is my Blue BDUs?

[Hawk200]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

What if a cadet is fifteen pounds overweight and over eighteen?

What if a SM refuses to shave?

What if my BDUs are in the wash, and all I have is my Blue BDUs?

Guess it's a good thing you're not in that squadron, isn't it?

[pixelwonk]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

Show me a unit that does that and I'll show you a unit with members who look like they really don't belong in BDUs.

Granted, I say that taking into account the limitations of the current regulations.
I'd much rather see members in one uniform.  Heck, if you had a cadet flight in woodland and a senior flight in blue, even that would be great compared to how we operate now.

[ddelaney103]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

Show me a unit that does that and I'll show you a unit with members who look like they really don't belong in BDUs.

Granted, I say that taking into account the limitations of the current regulations.
I'd much rather see members in one uniform.  Heck, if you had a cadet flight in woodland and a senior flight in blue, even that would be great compared to how we operate now.

In practice, it works really well.  My old sqdn made the BBDU/blue jumpsuit/blue nomex the default uniform for SM's.  The CP types have the option to wear AF style uniforms during Cadet activities, but mostly they do that when they're out on Cadet trips.

One color, one fight, one CAP!

[DHollywood]

I should have clarified that rule is for cadets.

Most of our officers wear the blue polo/grey slacks or the white and grey. 

I only enforce uniformity for my cadets since I'm the DCC.

It works for us just fine.

[jb512]

I should have clarified that rule is for cadets.

That makes more sense.

[JayT]

I should have clarified that rule is for cadets.

That makes more sense.

Well...

Most Cadets wear the BDUs anyhow.

I'm willing to bet theres more SM's who shouldn't be in BDUs compared to the number of Cadets who shouldn't be in BDUs.

[Hawk200]

I'm willing to bet theres more SM's who shouldn't be in BDUs compared to the number of Cadets who shouldn't be in BDUs.

Define "shouldn't be"...

[Cecil DP]

We mandate  designate the wear of the BDU to the exclusion of the BBDU in our squadron for field uniforms.

What if a cadet is fifteen pounds overweight and over eighteen?

What if a SM refuses to shave?

What if my BDUs are in the wash, and all I have is my Blue BDUs?

According to the regs they wear a CAP alternate uniform

[JayT]

I'm willing to bet theres more SM's who shouldn't be in BDUs compared to the number of Cadets who shouldn't be in BDUs.

Define "shouldn't be"...

Overweight
Excessive earings on females/earings on males.
Beards.
etc etc etc.

[Hawk200]

I'm willing to bet theres more SM's who shouldn't be in BDUs compared to the number of Cadets who shouldn't be in BDUs.

Define "shouldn't be"...

Overweight
Excessive earings on females/earings on males.
Beards.
etc etc etc.

Overweight isn't really an issue for the cadets under 18 crowd.

Excessive earings on either gender isn't a reason to stuff them in BBDU's, it's a reason to start explaining professional conduct. That's not appropriate in any uniform.

Beards? Haven't run into any cadets with a beard. Even in Alaska. But it would be a valid reason to put them in alternates if they chose not to shave.

For the most part, there really aren't many reasons for cadets under 18 not to be in AF uniforms.

[LtCol White]

I'm willing to bet theres more SM's who shouldn't be in BDUs compared to the number of Cadets who shouldn't be in BDUs.

Define "shouldn't be"...

Overweight
Excessive earings on females/earings on males.
Beards.
etc etc etc.

Overweight isn't really an issue for the cadets under 18 crowd.

Excessive earings on either gender isn't a reason to stuff them in BBDU's, it's a reason to start explaining professional conduct. That's not appropriate in any uniform.

Beards? Haven't run into any cadets with a beard. Even in Alaska. But it would be a valid reason to put them in alternates if they chose not to shave.

For the most part, there really aren't many reasons for cadets under 18 not to be in AF uniforms.

Agree 100% !!

[Matt]

I think this may be a valid haha for this conversation...



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[JCJ]

Important USAF policy briefing on wear of ABU's.