drivel... was: Navy Awards on Cap Uniform

[Shuman 14]

Yes, but on Air Force style only. Corporates no.

Another of those silly rules that make no sense.

[Storm Chaser]

Yes, but on Air Force style only. Corporates no.

Another of those silly rules that make no sense.

Why? It's a military/naval badge that can be worn on the Air Force-style uniform, which belongs to the Air Force. The CAP Aviator Shirt uniform is not a military uniform, even though it resembles one.

[Shuman 14]

Yes, but on Air Force style only. Corporates no.

Another of those silly rules that make no sense.

Why? It's a military/naval badge that can be worn on the Air Force-style uniform, which belongs to the Air Force. The CAP Aviator Shirt uniform is not a military uniform, even though it resembles one.

Why? Because it's more of the second class membership status for those who, for one reason or another, cannot wear the Air Force Style uniform.

Are we really going to beat this horse ... again? 

[Eclipse]

Not the same thing.

[Shuman 14]

Not the same thing.

It absolutely is.

Hundreds of Police, Fire, EMS, Security companies, and VSOs of all shapes and forms wear earned Military decorations and badges on their uniforms and the Air Force cares not a kick of a can...

BUT

Heaven forbid that their actual Auxiliary, well at least the part of that Auxiliary (the part they really don't want associated with the Air Force), wear their earned decorations. I mean after all... it's not really a uniform, it's civilian attire, uniformly worn, because we have let them wear something.

As someone once pointed out, what happens when a Medal of Honor Awardee smeday joins CAP and gets a little too big for Blues.

Another stupid rule that helps promote the caste system of CAP.

[EMT-83]

What exactly is your point? The Air Force has nothing to say about the uniforms worn by cops, firefighters or mall security guards.

They do, however, dictate what their auxiliary can do. Apples and oranges.

As to a Medal of Honor recipient? My guess would be salute and execute.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

What exactly is your point? The Air Force has nothing to say about the uniforms worn by cops, firefighters or mall security guards.

However, they can say how their uniform is to be worn by other organisations, like SDF's, through the State Adjutant General, but they do not seem to be interested.

SDF "Air" personnel are required to make even fewer changes than we are - maybe a nameplate in a different colour or collar brass with the State abbreviation rather than U.S.

But they keep us on a fairly tight leash.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

The CAP Aviator Shirt uniform is not a military uniform, even though it resembles one.

It does?

Maybe the former East German Air Force...

[Flying Pig]

What exactly is your point? The Air Force has nothing to say about the uniforms worn by cops, firefighters or mall security guards.

They do, however, dictate what their auxiliary can do. Apples and oranges.

As to a Medal of Honor recipient? My guess would be salute and execute.

It would be great if CAP had that issue.  But there are Silver Star recipients, BSM and PH recipients in CAP.  And a whole lot of other relatively insignificant vets like myself who play by the rules.  If a MoH recipient joins CAP, they could always put on their military uniform, which they are allowed to wear.  For the record, I would love to see military awards allowed on that uniform.  But I would hope it doesn't dissuade anyone from joining.  Even if it was something like wearing your top 3 or something. 

[Storm Chaser]

What exactly is your point? The Air Force has nothing to say about the uniforms worn by cops, firefighters or mall security guards.

However, they can say how their uniform is to be worn by other organisations, like SDF's, through the State Adjutant General, but they do not seem to be interested.

SDF "Air" personnel are required to make even fewer changes than we are - maybe a nameplate in a different colour or collar brass with the State abbreviation rather than U.S.

But they keep us on a fairly tight leash.

SDF/SG are part of the militia of the state. They're NOT a civilian auxiliary like we are. Very different things.

[Shuman 14]

So what is the difference between a civilian Auxiliarist in a blue uniform and one in a sorta, semi, uniformed grey and white ensemble?

[Eclipse]

So what is the difference between a civilian Auxiliarist in a blue uniform and one in a sorta, semi, uniformed grey and white ensemble?

The answer is in your question.

[Shuman 14]

So what is the difference between a civilian Auxiliarist in a blue uniform and one in a sorta, semi, uniformed grey and white ensemble?

The answer is in your question.

Exactly, a caste system, where one volunteer's service is deem better than another's.

[whatevah]

When did they start letting patron members wear uniforms?

[Storm Chaser]

They haven't.

[whatevah]

Ahh, good... thought I missed something with all of the reg changes this year.

shuman14, why are you so fired up about something that doesn't affect you?

[PHall]

Ahh, good... thought I missed something with all of the reg changes this year.

shuman14, why are you so fired up about something that doesn't affect you?

Because he's bored and a self admitted TROLL.

[MSG Mac]

I asked at the National Conference Uniform seminar why military ribbons couldn't be worn on the G/W in light of the fact that the DoD and VA strongly urge veterans to display their awards during holidays and when engaged in activities similar to CAP. Basically blown off

[SARDOC]

We have a member who has multiple Distinguished Flying Crosses (Vietnam) but he can't wear them.  It's sad really.

[AlphaSigOU]

Military ribbons on corporates? Probably never happen, even if we beg, cajole, plead, cry, snivel, whine and question the alleged patriotism of the powers-that-be about not being allowed to display the ribbons denoting our current/former military service on the corporate uniforms. Sucks, but that's the way it is right now.


For the record, I am not a member of the NUC; all I did was work on the 39-1 uniform illustrations with Lt Col Perrenot.