eServices announcement about ABUs

[Eclipse]

OKWG has an upper red rocker:


WIWG has a blue lower rocker:

[jeders]

The wing patch looks like Wisconsin to me.

It's Texas. Note the bright red top rocker and yellow in the middle field.

[Eclipse]

The wing patch looks like Wisconsin to me.

It's Texas. Note the bright red top rocker and yellow in the middle field.

TXWG's rocker is much smaller...

[shlebz]

About 67% of the reason I joined CAP initially was because I would have the ability to wear a variant of our Nation's Uniform. A lot of cadets have the primary motivator to join up tied into the uniforms, especially if they're coming from a military family or have aspirations to go into the military later on, etc.

It's not just cadets.  I joined very much because of the Air Force connection.  If that were lost, a big part of the appeal of CAP to me would be lost.

same, the main reason i joined was because of the uniforms and Air Force affiliation. If we drop the Air Force uniforms/affiliation, we lose a huge part of our charm to younger potential cadets...

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I also believe that the root cause forcing someone to go off half cocked was that NHQ is caving to the "lets not make MA BLUE angry over anything crowd" and the radioman style "Abu's or anything close to active uniforms are scary crowd".

It's not just you.

It's me, too.

Really, the two crowds are one and the same.

It is that crowd that killed the CSU.

It is that crowd that wants everything CAP to be grey, drab and colourless.

It is that crowd that would have us all in polo shirts.

It is that crowd that assumes the AF would be against something without even asking them.

It is that crowd that has been a large part of the destruction of the esprit de corps of CAP.

[SAR-EMT1]

I also believe that the root cause forcing someone to go off half cocked was that NHQ is caving to the "lets not make MA BLUE angry over anything crowd" and the radioman style "Abu's or anything close to active uniforms are scary crowd".

It's not just you.

It's me, too.

Really, the two crowds are one and the same.

It is that crowd that killed the CSU.

It is that crowd that wants everything CAP to be grey, drab and colourless.

It is that crowd that would have us all in polo shirts.

It is that crowd that assumes the AF would be against something without even asking them.

It is that crowd that has been a large part of the destruction of the esprit de corps of CAP.

Agreed, now how do we get a National Commander who will change things back to the old ways ?

[Extremepredjudice]

I also believe that the root cause forcing someone to go off half cocked was that NHQ is caving to the "lets not make MA BLUE angry over anything crowd" and the radioman style "Abu's or anything close to active uniforms are scary crowd".

It's not just you.

It's me, too.

Really, the two crowds are one and the same.

It is that crowd that killed the CSU.

It is that crowd that wants everything CAP to be grey, drab and colourless.

It is that crowd that would have us all in polo shirts.

It is that crowd that assumes the AF would be against something without even asking them.

It is that crowd that has been a large part of the destruction of the esprit de corps of CAP.

Agreed, now how do we get a National Commander who will change things back to the old ways ?

Western style diplomacy: shoot everyone that says anything.

[arajca]

anything

[Sapper168]

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Agreed, now how do we get a National Commander who will change things back to the old ways ?

I don't think such a person exists.

[lordmonar]

Agreed, now how do we get a National Commander who will change things back to the old ways ?

I don't think such a person exists.

Oh......such people exist....they just will never be eleected to the position of National Commander....and if they ever got that high by accident....the NB would never let them get away with trying to enfoce the rules.

[RickRutledge]

Didn't anyone read my post?

He got the image off of google.

Hosted on Google doesn't = "found on Google".

I have to say, after seeing the full photo, at a minimum it looks legit for this cadet - even including
having the luggage tag sewn in place of the branch tape.  (Yes, people that item with the fully embroidered
edge is supposed to be a luggage tag...)



That doesn't fill in the why or how this came to be, but certainly answer the "if"....

I know that kid, he's from my wing -- pretty sharp cadet too, I've been to 2 encampments where he was on staff, this doesn't seem like him. I thought he was smarter than that.

[Basher]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

[davidsinn]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

Because as a cadet officer you should be smarter than that.

[NCRblues]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

Because your wing IG (who happens to be a member of this board) has already contacted your unit commander, and the unit commander said that was not true.

[Basher]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

Because your wing IG (who happens to be a member of this board) has already contacted your unit commander, and the unit commander said that was not true.

That actually can't even be true. I already talked to my unit commander about it and cleared things up. So, either you're a liar or my unit commander is a liar. You tell me.

[Brad]

About 67% of the reason I joined CAP initially was because I would have the ability to wear a variant of our Nation's Uniform. A lot of cadets have the primary motivator to join up tied into the uniforms, especially if they're coming from a military family or have aspirations to go into the military later on, etc.

It's not just cadets.  I joined very much because of the Air Force connection.  If that were lost, a big part of the appeal of CAP to me would be lost.

same, the main reason i joined was because of the uniforms and Air Force affiliation. If we drop the Air Force uniforms/affiliation, we lose a huge part of our charm to younger potential cadets...

Agreed. I joined CAP because I was medically disqualified from the service on a non-waiverable  condition. (sleepwalking) I felt lost after leaving NROTC and when I found out I could still at least ATTEMPT to make good on the oath I took as a Midshipman by getting back in uniform with CAP, I was delighted. I take pride in my uniform and am thankful that the Air Force lets us wear the blues. Don't shun it like the plague like I've seen some do here and elsewhere.

[NCRblues]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

Because your wing IG (who happens to be a member of this board) has already contacted your unit commander, and the unit commander said that was not true.

That actually can't even be true. I already talked to my unit commander about it and cleared things up. So, either you're a liar or my unit commander is a liar. You tell me.

Your wing IG is Captain Edmund. He posts on here as Edmo1. Like many people have said on this forum before, be careful what you say....someone from your chain of command is ALWAYS watching....

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

That actually can't even be true. I already talked to my unit commander about it and cleared things up. So, either you're a liar or my unit commander is a liar. You tell me.

Cadet, your insistence that someone has to be a "liar" is not speaking well for you.

[ZigZag911]

I keep telling everybody that my squadron commander authorized my squadron to wear the ABU and so I got some and wore them to a meeting before I looked online and found out that they were not authorized for CAP wear. How does that make me the trouble maker??

Because as a cadet officer you should be smarter than that.

Smarter than to comply with what his unit commander tells him?

Is that really what we want in cadet officers?!?