Here is the best I can find, please let me know if I missed something:

1. On August 2006 the NB proclaimed that Blue Beret and Hawk Mountain items can be worn with BDUS, blue or green.  NOTE: nothing said about USAF-style or corp uniforms.
2. The Knowledgebase #1851, originally early published in 2008, added " The board did not approve wear of these items with service uniforms."
3. On 1 April 2008, then-interim National Commander issued ICL with "2. Several other uniform proposals were approved but require the approval of USAF before implementation.  When this approval is received these items will be announced"

That is the final word I can find.  Is there something else causing confusion?

Nope - that's the last mention, which falls into two camps:

1) NB decisions are binding and immediate regardless of publishing to the field.

2) NB decisions require administrative updates (regs, ICL, formal guidance, etc.) before being enforceable.

And that 1 sentence is the only and last mention of this issue since 2006.

That quite some time to not have clarified the issue...
How does one go about getting the attention of the NB?

Sigh

I'll just continue to wear my blue beret with my BDUs and service uniforms whenever not directed otherwise.... On my JROTC uniform 

I really wish this issue would get resolved once and for all. That may be wishful thinking on my part. 
Several years ago I visited a unit that I thought I might join due to the possibility of moving to that area and there was one "high speed" 19-20ish cadet wearing a beret with a small round badge that I couldn't identify.
A couple of years later, as CDC, I got into situation where a belligerent cadet officer refused to remove his beret after coming back from NBB, and our SQ CC backed him on it.
All the higher ups need to get the issue of special uniform items resolved and in writing.

Quote from: Dad2-4 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:11 AMSeveral years ago I visited a unit that I thought I might join due to the possibility of moving to that area and there was one "high speed" 19-20ish cadet wearing a beret with a small round badge that I couldn't identify. A couple of years later, as CDC, I got into situation where a belligerent cadet officer refused to remove his beret after coming back from NBB, and our SQ CC backed him on it.

I've seen that behavior as well. It's a continuing problem. I just don't understand where a lot of people think that it's OK to do whatever they feel like. Still wonder how we function with such behavior.

Quote from: Dad2-4 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
All the higher ups need to get the issue of special uniform items resolved and in writing.

I'll second that one.

Quote from: Hawk200 on July 30, 2010, 03:24:17 AM

Quote from: Dad2-4 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:11 AMSeveral years ago I visited a unit that I thought I might join due to the possibility of moving to that area and there was one "high speed" 19-20ish cadet wearing a beret with a small round badge that I couldn't identify. A couple of years later, as CDC, I got into situation where a belligerent cadet officer refused to remove his beret after coming back from NBB, and our SQ CC backed him on it.

I've seen that behavior as well. It's a continuing problem. I just don't understand where a lot of people think that it's OK to do whatever they feel like. Still wonder how we function with such behavior.

We are clearly failing with a cadet who argues with a senior member about something like a hat.

Quote from: Eclipse on July 30, 2010, 03:25:28 AM

Quote from: Hawk200 on July 30, 2010, 03:24:17 AM

Quote from: Dad2-4 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:11 AMSeveral years ago I visited a unit that I thought I might join due to the possibility of moving to that area and there was one "high speed" 19-20ish cadet wearing a beret with a small round badge that I couldn't identify. A couple of years later, as CDC, I got into situation where a belligerent cadet officer refused to remove his beret after coming back from NBB, and our SQ CC backed him on it.

I've seen that behavior as well. It's a continuing problem. I just don't understand where a lot of people think that it's OK to do whatever they feel like. Still wonder how we function with such behavior.

We are clearly failing with a cadet who argues with a senior member about something like a hat.

Not just cadets. I see the problems in other places.

Quote from: Eclipse on July 30, 2010, 03:25:28 AM

Quote from: Hawk200 on July 30, 2010, 03:24:17 AM

Quote from: Dad2-4 on July 30, 2010, 03:15:11 AMSeveral years ago I visited a unit that I thought I might join due to the possibility of moving to that area and there was one "high speed" 19-20ish cadet wearing a beret with a small round badge that I couldn't identify. A couple of years later, as CDC, I got into situation where a belligerent cadet officer refused to remove his beret after coming back from NBB, and our SQ CC backed him on it.

I've seen that behavior as well. It's a continuing problem. I just don't understand where a lot of people think that it's OK to do whatever they feel like. Still wonder how we function with such behavior.

We are clearly failing with a cadet who argues with a senior member about something like a hat.

Sir, respectfully, the cadets had to do a very difficult mission to earn "teh bling". I think they should get to wear the wistles, pistol belts, berets and the beret insignia on their blues as well! 

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 30, 2010, 02:15:51 PMSir, respectfully, the cadets had to do a very difficult mission to earn "teh bling". I think they should get to wear the wistles, pistol belts, berets and the beret insignia on their blues as well! 

Respectfully, Cadet, I think that they should follow regulations.

Sadly, too few members, Senior AND Cadet, read, understand, and follow them.

Quote from: JoeTomasone on July 30, 2010, 02:22:47 PM

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 30, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Sir, respectfully, the cadets had to do a very difficult mission to earn "teh bling". I think they should get to wear the wistles, pistol belts, berets and the beret insignia on their blues as well! 

Respectfully, Cadet, I think that they should follow regulations.

Sadly, too few members, Senior AND Cadet, read, understand, and follow them.

Sir, I think the rolling eyes icon got lost in translation. Eclipse knows I'm very much against Hawk/BB bling.

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 30, 2010, 02:26:41 PMSir, I think the rolling eyes icon got lost in translation. Eclipse knows I'm very much against Hawk/BB bling.

Yeah, I think I had too much venom in the veins after reading too many posts from people who think "if you desire it, it's authorized"..  Sorry 'bout that!

I say we abolish all berets in CAP.  No use for them.  Regardless of what the military does, CAP doesnt need to be giving out berets for cadets finishing a 5 day, adult guarded whatever activity...  Give me a break. 

Maybe its my Marine background.  You could have a scout sniper assigned to recon and a data entry clerk standing next to each other in uniform, and guess what?  You wouldn't be able to tell which one was which.  Perhaps the cadet program, or, Im sorry, the senior members should take notice.  Lets face it, its the seniors who want the berets and bling.  They set the direction, not the cadets.  So I blame the senior member leadership for creating the commando-elite mindset some of these cadets are coming back with.

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 30, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
I say we abolish all berets in CAP.  No use for them.  Regardless of what the military does, CAP doesnt need to be giving out berets for cadets finishing a 5 day, adult guarded whatever activity...  Give me a break. 

YES!!!!

Quote from: JoeTomasone on July 30, 2010, 02:46:27 PMYeah, I think I had too much venom in the veins after reading too many posts from people who think "if you desire it, it's authorized"..  Sorry 'bout that!

That's it! That covers the attitude. Unfortunately, it's not even limited to cadets or seniors. The mindset seems to exist in society in general.

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 30, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
I say we abolish all berets in CAP.  No use for them.  Regardless of what the military does, CAP doesnt need to be giving out berets for cadets finishing a 5 day, adult guarded whatever activity...

I could get on board with that. Military training that awards a beret tends to be pretty in depth and requires a great deal. Many of our members seem to think that they're "peers" of the military personnel that receive them, and that's a part of the problem. 

^Let me take it a step farther.  In the military, berets are awarded when your trained and actually serving with a unit in that capacity.  You dont attend the school and then wear the beret for the rest of your career.  If your with the 5th Special Forces Grp, if you decide to leave and become a recruiter, you stop wearing your green beret.  We have patches, ribbons and berets.  So essentially, if you attend the week long Blue Beret, you are leaving with 3 symbols for completing one activity.  Lets not even mention the bucket of stuff you leave with after Hawk.  A little much I think.  Lets face it, cadets want the beret because it signifies an elite status.  Its different than everyone else.

As Flying Pig said, "Lets face it, cadets want the beret because it signifies an elite status.  Its different than everyone else."  And that's the same reason Special Forces want to wear them.. Talking about attitudes, I have seen more senior members with bad attitudes trying to tell cadets that they couldn't wear the Blue Beret when in BDU's than you can shake a stick at.  I have also seen senior members telling cadets that they had their overseas caps tucked into the wrong side of their trousers/belt.  Since the seniors are wrong in both of these scenarios, should we expect anymore out of our cadets than we do our seniors??  And if we weren't trying to recruit cadets based upon Bling, we would get rid of the military style uniform entirely and do our own thing.  Everyone needs to learn the Reg's and upper echelon needs to keep the Reg's up to date.. 

Quote from: AirAux on July 30, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
As Flying Pig said, "Lets face it, cadets want the beret because it signifies an elite status.  Its different than everyone else."  And that's the same reason Special Forces want to wear them.. Talking about attitudes, I have seen more senior members with bad attitudes trying to tell cadets that they couldn't wear the Blue Beret when in BDU's than you can shake a stick at.  I have also seen senior members telling cadets that they had their overseas caps tucked into the wrong side of their trousers/belt.  Since the seniors are wrong in both of these scenarios, should we expect anymore out of our cadets than we do our seniors??  And if we weren't trying to recruit cadets based upon Bling, we would get rid of the military style uniform entirely and do our own thing.  Everyone needs to learn the Reg's and upper echelon needs to keep the Reg's up to date..

I doubt you met many special forces dudes who joined 'for the beret.' Also, the fact of the matter is that there was never a regulation upgrade or ICL about the beret or Hawk Mountain stuff or whatever. Unless I'm mistaken, all of that stuff came down during the regime of a certain national commander who may or may not of been trying to consolidate his power.

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 30, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
^Let me take it a step farther.  In the military, berets are awarded when your trained and actually serving with a unit in that capacity.  You dont attend the school and then wear the beret for the rest of your career.  If your with the 5th Special Forces Grp, if you decide to leave and become a recruiter, you stop wearing your green beret.  We have patches, ribbons and berets.  So essentially, if you attend the week long Blue Beret, you are leaving with 3 symbols for completing one activity.  Lets not even mention the bucket of stuff you leave with after Hawk.  A little much I think.  Lets face it, cadets want the beret because it signifies an elite status.  Its different than everyone else.

That's how the Army does it, the Air Force links most berets to the career field. However, the "elite" status of the beret to CAP members is the issue. I think most people here are familiar with the story of an individual that wished to wear the beret awarded by a school, even though he hadn't attended the school. I think that behavior probably contributed to much of the problem. We can easily do away with berets, they aren't all that practical.

I don't mind bling if it's not garish or "over the top." However, it needs to signify something that isn't covered by other insignia. If a course utilizes the training requirements for ground team, but adds an appreciable amount of additional training that is useful and applicable to our mission, I've got no issue. But if it's gonna be treated as "elite", it needs to be "elite." Just a "few more things" over Ground Team doesn't make it something all that special.

Quote from: AirAux on July 30, 2010, 04:54:38 PMAnd if we weren't trying to recruit cadets based upon Bling, we would get rid of the military style uniform entirely and do our own thing.

I don't see us recruiting based on bling. Where we have failed is in teaching that the bling is supposed to signify accomplishment or training of value. It's supposed to mean something. Each insignia should have a distinctly separate meaning from anything else. No "double dip" for multiple insignias that signify the same pool of training.

Giving up the military aspect isn't the answer. For those so vehemently against it, CAP isn't the place for them. And the nature of our organization is not to "do our own thing." It's about service. Too many people forget that.

Quote from: AirAux on July 30, 2010, 04:54:38 PMEveryone needs to learn the Reg's and upper echelon needs to keep the Reg's up to date..

Agreed, wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, there are too many people with a liberal attitude towards the regs, up to date or not. A valid reg is meaningless if people think that they don't have to follow it.

Quote from: Hawk200 on July 30, 2010, 04:19:14 PM
Military training that awards a beret tends to be pretty in depth and requires a great deal.

Completion of US Army Basic Training awards the Black Beret.

Quote from: Hawk200 on July 30, 2010, 04:19:14 PM
Many of our members seem to think that they're "peers" of the military personnel that receive them, and that's a part of the problem.

It is just part of the eternal search for bling that looks cool and most other people do not have.