Would the Jungle boots or the Combat boots be better? ???
Never liked jungle boots, but I do like cloth uppers. I wear the Infantry Combat Boot (the one with Gore-Tex).
Quote from: JC004 on August 16, 2007, 10:36:42 PM
Never liked jungle boots, but I do like cloth uppers. I wear the Infantry Combat Boot (the one with Gore-Tex).
The Jungle Boots are OK, they will get cold in the winter though. I too have the Infantry Combat boots as well, and they are more comfortable.
People will tell you what the like best based on their own experience.
As a cadet, I wore jungle boots, American made jungle boots; the issued kind. Well, they aren't issued anymore so the best jungles you can find may be Altamas. You live in TX so jungles would actually be good for you.
You can't go wrong with basic issue leather boots. Probably easy to find too.
Don't be afraid to spend some $$ on boots either! I am not saying go buy the most expensive but be cautious of those that are $15.99 Also, watch out for "fancy" tread. They advertise things like tiger tread or some other neat rubber tread. Best to go with DSCP issue or approved. They can usually be "trusted" for performance and wear and tear.
Just my opinion. Like said above, all based on my experience.
Depends, here in SC I like my altama ripple sole jungles, but when I lived up north I preferred all leather Bates...all about climate.
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 17, 2007, 02:31:20 AM
Don't be afraid to spend some $$ on boots either!
I agree, but remember, if you're just a small fry guy and haven't hit your growth spurt yet, you may buy a $50 pair of boots and out grow them in a 6 months.
I used to wear jungle boots. They were comfortable in the summer becuase of the vents. Cold in the Ohio winter.
Right now I wear boots with the zippers up th side. Easy to take on and off.
I would prefer the combat boots just cause of their ability to keep water out. Jungle boots are not the best boots when it rains because of the vents. I've had cadets with jungle boots with all sorts of problems when it rains.
Jungle boots are designed for use in jungle warfare or in hot, wet and humid environments, where a standard leather combat boot would be uncomfortable or unsuitable to wear. Jungle boots have vent holes in the instep to aid in ventilation and drainage of moisture.
That was from Wikipedia... ;D
If you plan on getting your feet wet in a hot weather enviornment, like we do in FL, then perhaps jungle boots are a good idea. The vents help out with airing out your feet whereas standard combat boots would just sit there and let your feet stay wet.
Most people in CAP don't need jungle boots. If you're not going to the field, jungle boots and their vents are fine. If your feet get real hot like mine, field or no field, jungle boots are thing to have.
But as I've said, you can't go wrong in CAP with your typical run of the mill basic all leather combat boot.
The most comfortable boot I have ever worn is the Oakley SI assault boot. It is hands down the most comfortable boot I have owned. There of course is a catch, the price. They cost about 185 a pair. I use them everyday so it isn't as bad of an investment. They are worth considering if you have flat feet or your feet get tired or sore easily and you plan on staying in.
Adam
For ground-pounding, I love my Belleville ICB's
For flying, standard USAF/USN-issue all-leather Addison or Cove
Quote from: adamblank on August 17, 2007, 07:59:43 AM
The most comfortable boot I have ever worn is the Oakley SI assault boot. It is hands down the most comfortable boot I have owned. There of course is a catch, the price. They cost about 185 a pair. I use them everyday so it isn't as bad of an investment. They are worth considering if you have flat feet or your feet get tired or sore easily and you plan on staying in.
+1 for Oakly SI boots. I wear them every day for work as well. I wear the 6" pair and they fit like running shoes. Just not sure how well they'd do in the field...the field field, not walking around the block. They're a softer leather and for CAP, they don't really shine too well.
For a police department though, they work great.
I bought a pair of the Oakley SI boots for PJ school for many of the same reasons you guys list. They were great day to day around base as we ran everyehwere, and like you said they are running shows in disguise. I will caution you however that at the end of 6 months of regular wear they were held together with nothing but shoe goo and duct tape. While I'll admit that we weren't the nicest to our footwear, people with more standard style boots were having no such breakdowns. At the full list price of $185 I say they aren't worth it. If you can get a pro deal with them they come down a lot and might be worth it for light regular wear. They do look dumb in garrison BDU's too (not that I didn't wear them that way too)
Just my 2 cents
Quote from: Stonewall on August 17, 2007, 03:02:09 PM
+1 for Oakly SI boots. I wear them every day for work as well. I wear the 6" pair and they fit like running shoes. Just not sure how well they'd do in the field...the field field, not walking around the block. They're a softer leather and for CAP, they don't really shine too well.
For a police department though, they work great.
I would say the boots show a good amount of wear and I have had them about 15 months. This is only with a light amount of field work but wearing them 50 hours a week or so. I have both the 6 and 8 inch pairs. The 8" seem a little more durable and they definitely survived unscathed a week of TAC officer duties at encampment this year. If they are a boot you are interested in visit usstandardissue.com to see if you qualify, if you do they are only a little over 100 dollars.
Adam
One of the best boots, but hardest to find, are German Infantry boots. They are good for three seasons, a little hot for summer though. The smooth side out leather takes a good shine and the padding around the ankle is a plus.
Ron
Try:
http://www.botachtactical.com
They usually have boots on clearance. Stick to "issue" items or at the bare minimum a well known brand name.
California Wing requires all-leather boots for mission flying.
I don't do much walking so I buy cheap boots
http://www.galaxyarmynavy.com/item-5094.asp
Galaxy Army and Navy also has good cheap BDUs
Quote from: SKYKING607 on August 17, 2007, 06:52:20 PM
Try:
http://www.botachtactical.com
Botach does have a lot of good deals, on all gear. No doubt about it. but CALL THEM FIRST! If they don't have something in stock, you'll never hear from them again, ever.
I've made 5 orders from them in the past year or so, two orders went MIA. Even got the standard email saying it was all good. Some friends had this happen too. But if it's in stock, you'll get it and you'll get it fast, at a good price. BUT CALL FIRST!
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
Speed laces are the type that have an external holder attached to the leather. Regular laces are the type where the lace hole is punched through the leather itself.
Speed laces are much faster to put on and take off, (so are the boots with the zippers), because you don't need to unlace them each time.
Regular laces IMO, look good, but are a pain to put on and take off each time.
I hope that's the question you were asking... ???
Also, if the boot laces are long enough you can knot the ends so they don't come unlaced when you loosen them, and you just grab the knots and pull to tighten 'em.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 20, 2007, 05:57:57 PM
Speed laces are the type that have an external holder attached to the leather. Regular laces are the type where the lace hole is punched through the leather itself.
Speed laces are much faster to put on and take off, (so are the boots with the zippers), because you don't need to unlace them each time.
Regular laces IMO, look good, but are a pain to put on and take off each time.
I hope that's the question you were asking... ???
Pretty much; So, which one would you reccomend according to quality and price??
-Thanks-
I'd recommend the Altama standard combat boot for a cadet as they will work and work for you in all situations. My 2 issued pair of those lasted me all the way through hot and dry BMT in San Antonio to moderate and humid 18 weeks of tech school in Biloxi. They're the best bang for the buck I think. Speed laces, of course.
The ultimate in boots depends on your geographical location. Here in NYC, I found Ft. Lewis Go-Devils by Dannen to be the best 3 out of 4 seasons boot. They're all leather and gore-tex with great support and they're TOUGH. For summer I had a pair of Marauders with standard sole. A great looking boot since everything on it that's leather is pattened leather, so it shines like a mirror. I got those because my Military Training Instructor had them in basic and boy... those things sparkled.
The best compromise to those has been mentioned... the Combat Infantry Boot in full leather. Ripple sole is best if you pound pavement more often than dirt. Regular sole is good for outdoor use.
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 20, 2007, 06:29:36 PM
I found Ft. Lewis Go-Devils by Dannen...
That's Danner. Dannen (Danon) makes yogurt... ;D
I agree with afgeo4, your standard issue black, all leather boot will be nothing more and nothing less than you need. Jungle boots, gore-tex, desert, and all those others are great for specific enviornments and missions, but for a cadet. I wouldn't suggest anything different than plain combat boots. If you were in Florida or Texax, I may suggest black jungle boots as a "basic" boot because you'll probably never need to worry too much about the cold, but still, basic black leather combat boots is all you need.
lol leave me alone... it's lunch time! :-[
Is www.propper.com a good site to buy boots off of??
Did you even look at that site? I don't think they sell boots. So to answer your question, no, it would be a terrible place to buy boots from.
Sorry, someone told me that they did. You are right, that would be a terrible place to buy boots off of...
Quote from: Stonewall on August 20, 2007, 09:33:56 PM
Did you even look at that site? I don't think they sell boots. So to answer your question, no, it would be a terrible place to buy boots from.
Here, dude. I even checked out 3 places and US Cavalry was the cheapest.
Here are standard issue black combat boots. They'll last you're entire cadet career unless you grow out of them. I'd get them 1 size too big for room to grow. You can wear thick socks.
http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=7866&TabID=1&CatID=6
Thanks, that site has much nicer boots than :P propper!!!
I prefer speed lace. True they are longer than my ex's hair, but I don't have to spend five minutes lacing my boots every time I put them on. Reg laces are time consuming, and full are ok, take some time to lace, but not a whole lot extra to wrap around.
I have a pair of Altama leather mil spec combat boots that I wear for meetings. I have pretty plat feet, and also over pronate, so I try not to wear them if I'm going to be walking a lot, or unless it's going to be cold & wet. I wore them on a 25 mile hike not long after I got them and I couldn't walk right for days later.
I have a pair of Magnum's that I wear when it's not going to be cold.
I've been wanting a good pair of waterproof boots for fall/winter. Can't decide weather to go with insulated or non insulated, or full leather, or gore tex. Someone told me once that two things you shouldn't skimp on is a bed and footwear. Still, I'm cheap and anything much over $100 kills me to buy cause I won't wear them every day.
I might add that I have become pretty creative while trying not to get my feet wet when having to cross a creek in my Magnums in cold weather. The cadets find this very amusing. But then again, they see a creek, they think the first thing they need to do is stick their boots in it.
There's always Goretex socks. I've worn them several times, especially when it was getting cold out and I was still wearing jungle boots.
http://www.botac.com/rocgorsoc.html
I've always wondered if those worked for any length of time.
I never wore them for more than a day, but they do work. They're no different than "waterproof" boots. They're waterproof as long as you don't go in past the top of the sock/boot.
When I first started doing SAR in an area where it snowed and all I had were jungle boots (from Florida), those goretex socks were a life saver until I could afford a pair of Matterhorns.
My vote: +1 for at least one set of goretex socks to be in your 72hr gear for winter operations.
Comfort!!!
If your boots hurt your feet, you won't be able to perform. Buy the least expensive, most comfortable boot you can get. Don't drop too much coin, you'll grow out of them. GI Issue Combat Boots, Like The Altima, may be your most economical buy.
Quote from: RogueLeader on August 21, 2007, 02:13:09 AM
I prefer speed lace. True they are longer than my ex's hair, but I don't have to spend five minutes lacing my boots every time I put them on. Reg laces are time consuming, and full are ok, take some time to lace, but not a whole lot extra to wrap around.
What regulation laces? We were issued Altama combat boots with speed laces in basic. We tucked the extra into the boot to keep the loops and ends from getting caught in... well, there's nothing they can get caught in during basic, but in a/d they can, so it's good practice. Besides... attention to detail.
Quote from: ELTHunter on August 21, 2007, 02:25:48 AM
I have a pair of Altama leather mil spec combat boots that I wear for meetings. I have pretty plat feet, and also over pronate, so I try not to wear them if I'm going to be walking a lot, or unless it's going to be cold & wet. I wore them on a 25 mile hike not long after I got them and I couldn't walk right for days later.
I have a pair of Magnum's that I wear when it's not going to be cold.
I've been wanting a good pair of waterproof boots for fall/winter. Can't decide weather to go with insulated or non insulated, or full leather, or gore tex. Someone told me once that two things you shouldn't skimp on is a bed and footwear. Still, I'm cheap and anything much over $100 kills me to buy cause I won't wear them every day.
Here's a good pair and with a good discount
http://www.lapolicegear.com/mame10walein.html
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 21, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
What regulation laces? We were issued Altama combat boots with speed laces in basic. We tucked the extra into the boot to keep the loops and ends from getting caught in... well, there's nothing they can get caught in during basic, but in a/d they can, so it's good practice. Besides... attention to detail.
He was talking about "Regular" laces, not "Regulation Laces." Regular laces being those that aren't "speed laces."
I prefer my ICBs to the older style issue speed lace boots. The soles are much more cushiony and they have Gore-Tex. I think I paid under 90 for 'em as seconds. Now I just need to find some with safety toes for cheap.
Safety toe? Have the cadets been expressing their feelings for you? >:D
Coast Guard requires them.
What is safety toe?? ???
A steel or composite toe cap inside the boot that protects your toes. Useful if you might drop something heavy on your feet, or if you will be working on or around large steel U.S. Coast Guard vessels.
Is safety toe a lot more expensive??
It depends... It does add to the cost of the boots I want though.
Quote from: MIKE on August 21, 2007, 08:53:55 PM
A steel or composite toe cap inside the boot that protects your toes. Useful if you might drop something heavy on your feet, or if you will be working on or around large steel U.S. Coast Guard vessels.
Yes, definitely useful if someone drops a large steel U.S. Coast Guard vessel on your feet.
Quote from: Stonewall on August 17, 2007, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 17, 2007, 02:31:20 AM
Don't be afraid to spend some $$ on boots either!
I agree, but remember, if you're just a small fry guy and haven't hit your growth spurt yet, you may buy a $50 pair of boots and out grow them in a 6 months.
That's why I recommend used Army-issue boots to our cadets. $20.00 gets you a shinable pair of boots from the surplus store with a few years left on them.
Quote from: floridacyclist on August 22, 2007, 05:39:50 PMThat's why I recommend used Army-issue boots to our cadets. $20.00 gets you a shinable pair of boots from the surplus store with a few years left on them.
Dern it, Cap'n, that is about the best suggestion I've seen on this 3-page discussion. And something so commonly done I don't know why me or someone else didn't already suggest it.
Absolutely do this! If you've got a surplus store near you, you can get 3 pair of decent used boots for the price of a brand new pair. You can even get your summer and winter pair of boots (jungles and maybe goretex).
Doint push-ups for not mentioning it earlier...
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: floridacyclist on August 22, 2007, 05:39:50 PMThat's why I recommend used Army-issue boots to our cadets. $20.00 gets you a shinable pair of boots from the surplus store with a few years left on them.
Dern it, Cap'n, that is about the best suggestion I've seen on this 3-page discussion. And something so commonly done I don't know why me or someone else didn't already suggest it.
Absolutely do this! If you've got a surplus store near you, you can get 3 pairs of decent used boots for the price of a brand new pair. You can even get your summer and winter pair of boots (jungles and maybe goretex).
Doint push-ups for not mentioning it earlier...
Stonewall!! You're increasing the number of times I have to click on all these threads to keep up! You're killing me here...
Quote from: floridacyclist on August 22, 2007, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on August 17, 2007, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 17, 2007, 02:31:20 AM
Don't be afraid to spend some $$ on boots either!
I agree, but remember, if you're just a small fry guy and haven't hit your growth spurt yet, you may buy a $50 pair of boots and out grow them in a 6 months.
That's why I recommend used Army-issue boots to our cadets. $20.00 gets you a shinable pair of boots from the surplus store with a few years left on them.
Many of those boots aren't serviceable and require new soles which can cost quite a bit and many wont take a shine anymore.
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 07:55:49 PMMany of those boots aren't serviceable and require new soles which can cost quite a bit and many wont take a shine anymore.
Maybe at a NYC surplus store, but most (not all) Army/Navy's I've been to, especially around a good sized military base, have a decent selection of boots to choose from that are serviceable.
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 07:55:49 PMMany of those boots aren't serviceable and require new soles which can cost quite a bit and many wont take a shine anymore.
Maybe at a NYC surplus store, but most (not all) Army/Navy's I've been to, especially around a good sized military base, have a decent selection of boots to choose from that are serviceable.
I haven't seen any in NYC. I was talking about stores around Ft. Dix/McGuire AFB/Lakehurst NAES (g-d that's tiring to write!)
For addo1, the original poster. I did a quick search of your area and found
Texas Army Navy Store
2600 W Mockingbird Ln
Dallas, TX 75235
Phone: (214) 902-9102
Call and see what they have to say about their boot selection.
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 07:55:49 PMMany of those boots aren't serviceable and require new soles which can cost quite a bit and many wont take a shine anymore.
Maybe at a NYC surplus store, but most (not all) Army/Navy's I've been to, especially around a good sized military base, have a decent selection of boots to choose from that are serviceable.
I haven't seen any in NYC. I was talking about stores around Ft. Dix/McGuire AFB/Lakehurst NAES (g-d that's tiring to write!)
The thrift store at McGuire had a large selection of boots about a year ago. I have not been in for, well, almost a year. I would reccomend making a quick stop if you are in teh area. I got 2 gortex jackets, a pair of gortex pants, brand new blue pants and a buckle for about $75.00 PLUS the money goes to support the family organizations (FRG) at DIX/McGuire.
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 09:08:41 PM
For addo1, the original poster. I did a quick search of your area and found
Texas Army Navy Store
2600 W Mockingbird Ln
Dallas, TX 75235
Phone: (214) 902-9102
Call and see what they have to say about their boot selection.
Thanks, I will!!
I like jungle boots better cause they are easy to break in to, easy to polish, and have air pockets to air out the feet unlike the combat boots. Can I get an Amen in the house?!? ???
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:22:36 PM
I like jungle boots better cause they are easy to break in to, easy to polish, and have air pockets to air out the feet unlike the combat boots. Can I get an Amen in the house?!? ???
You obviously don't live in the snow belt lol.
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 22, 2007, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on August 22, 2007, 07:55:49 PMMany of those boots aren't serviceable and require new soles which can cost quite a bit and many wont take a shine anymore.
Maybe at a NYC surplus store, but most (not all) Army/Navy's I've been to, especially around a good sized military base, have a decent selection of boots to choose from that are serviceable.
I haven't seen any in NYC. I was talking about stores around Ft. Dix/McGuire AFB/Lakehurst NAES (g-d that's tiring to write!)
The thrift store at McGuire had a large selection of boots about a year ago. I have not been in for, well, almost a year. I would reccomend making a quick stop if you are in teh area. I got 2 gortex jackets, a pair of gortex pants, brand new blue pants and a buckle for about $75.00 PLUS the money goes to support the family organizations (FRG) at DIX/McGuire.
Yeah... I am a little overdue there and I need to find a new set of BDU's (MCSS is out of them) in Lg/Rg and a new BDU cover. I also stop by the Airman's attic and check if they have uniforms to donate to cadets. They usually do!
Nope but I live in the swampy area of Wilmington N.C. and they come in handy when it involves snakes (coppers and rattlers), gators, and weird bugs. They keep those vermin's off the feet. Oh I for got to mention that I was bit on the boot by a snake and it didn't affect my flesh what so ever so eat it man.
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
Nope but I live in the swampy area of Wilmington N.C. and they come in handy when it involves snakes (coppers and rattlers), gators, and weird bugs. They keep those vermin's off the feet. Oh I for got to mention that I was bit on the boot by a snake and it didn't affect my flesh what so ever so eat it man.
Good thing you were wearing those!! ;)
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
so eat it man.
Do you really think telling another user to
eat it is appropriate conduct?
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:22:36 PM
I like jungle boots better cause they are easy to break in to, easy to polish, and have air pockets to air out the feet unlike the combat boots. Can I get an Amen in the house?!? ???
Sure . . . . . .Amen ;)
But I find Combat boots are more comfy . . . ;D
Quote from: MIKE on August 24, 2007, 12:50:03 AM
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
so eat it man.
Do you really think telling another user to eat it is appropriate conduct?
I assumed he meant eat the snake. Gotcha MIKE :-X
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 24, 2007, 04:19:38 AM
Quote from: MIKE on August 24, 2007, 12:50:03 AM
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
so eat it man.
Do you really think telling another user to eat it is appropriate conduct?
I assumed he meant eat the snake. Gotcha MIKE :-X
That snake better watch out!! ;) :D
Quote from: Stonewall on August 22, 2007, 09:08:41 PM
For addo1, the original poster. I did a quick search of your area and found
Texas Army Navy Store
2600 W Mockingbird Ln
Dallas, TX 75235
Phone: (214) 902-9102
Call and see what they have to say about their boot selection.
Their store address is 111 N. Central Expressway, Richardson, TX. It is just north of the intersection of Belt Line road and US 75 (west side). They are not as much an Army Navy store as they are a tactical "Pro Shop". Their website is www.afmo.com. Almost no surplus, but quality tactical gear. Most of the gear and BDU's are pricey, the boots and shoes are priced reasonably and they have a good selection.
Suggestion: Find boots that are comfortable for
YOU.
You will have to wear them. If you are going to try mail order, go to a store and try on the boots you plan on ordering. Make sure that you know the correct size before you make your order. Personally, I wear my issued Jungle boots in the warm months and a pair of Bates 8" boots in the "winter".
As for wear, I was issued my Jungle boots in 1983 for Jungle school. If you take care of them (mine are spit shined), your boots will last a long time. If you don't, they'll rot off your feet. And yes, for those of you in TX Group II, I'll be wearing them at the GSAR school in October. See for yourself! If you want to see what the other Group II cadets are wearing, take a look at the Wylie newsletter on www.wyliecap.org. It contains pictures of the instructors and cadets from the GSAR school last August.
Thank you so much!! ;D ;D
Quote from: RogueLeader on August 24, 2007, 04:04:20 AM
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:22:36 PM
I like jungle boots better cause they are easy to break in to, easy to polish, and have air pockets to air out the feet unlike the combat boots. Can I get an Amen in the house?!? ???
Sure . . . . . .Amen ;)
But I find Combat boots are more comfy . . . ;D
Really cause I dont really think so. I wont call you wrong cause of your oppinion.
Quote from: mikeylikey on August 24, 2007, 04:19:38 AM
Quote from: MIKE on August 24, 2007, 12:50:03 AM
Quote from: CAP006 on August 23, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
so eat it man.
Do you really think telling another user to eat it is appropriate conduct?
I assumed he meant eat the snake. Gotcha MIKE :-X
Yes thats what I meant. I`m not really that rude. Especially on CAPTalk. That would be Bad.
I want to thank everybody for their help. I received my comfy Infantry Combat boots the other day and I am enjoying them very much! ;D ;D
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Might I also suggest jump boots. I've had mine for two years. Oh so comfy and they look pretty sharp too! ;D
My $.02..
Issue OD Jungle Boots got me through SFAS, and Winters in Fort Carson.
After they are sufficiently broken in, rip out the reinforcement in the toe cap (Don't expect to wear 'em in formation anymore), remove the foot liner, remove the steel shank in the sole (unless you expect to step on pungi sticks then leave it in), and replace the foot liner.
Take boots to a cobbler NEAR AN ARMY BASE, and have them resoled with ripple sole.
Add Sorbothane insole, and wear with Thorlo socks, and you are gtg. If you expect to do long range movements, differentially lace your boots. That is, lace the boot to where your ankle breaks, and tie it snugly with a square knot. Skip an eyelet, and lace the remainder of the boot a little looser, and tie again.
Now you have a soft, durable boot than can do 30 miles a day with an 80+ lbs ruck on your back.
For winter use, I used a gore-tex liner in the boot. Remember, keeping your feet warm is a function of keeping them dry and insulated. What I liked about the Jungles' with the liner is that once your boots are wet (and they will be) you can essentially disassemble the boot and dry each component separately (and faster). Once you get the Goretex leather boots soaked, it takes forever for them to dry. Meanwhile, the water helps conduct heat away from your body.
Example:
I owned a pair of Matterhorns, and I was underwhelmed. (Your mileage may vary). After an hour or so in the boot, your feet are swimming in your own sweat and the goretex prevents the LIQUID from escaping. (Sure the vapor can escape, but to where? Yep, the unsealed leather of the boot). Next thing you know, you have cold wet feet in sealed bucket. Not only that, but the sole tended to "cup" under your foot, and tended to cause my feet to cramp.
Bottomline: If you need high-speed, low-drag boots for a real reason, you will have the experience to know why one thing or another would/would not work. For most things, find a pair of boots that are comfortable, and that you break in. (The comment earlier about surplus store issue boots was great)
I would never wear zip-on boots. I know that you can't lace them sufficiently snug to prevent blisters. Conversely, they are perfectly suited to someone on an aircrew.
As far as the Nike/Hi-Tech/yada-yada sneaker boots, I suppose they have a place. My nightmares involve being in the field (I was Infantry) and having a boot failure. I've had enough sneaker soles fall off that I wouldn't chance it. Of course this is CAP, and that is prolly not an issue.
http://www.bragg.army.mil/specialforces/prepare.htm (http://www.bragg.army.mil/specialforces/prepare.htm)
One last thought: Good Boots with good socks is better than great boots with white cotton socks. Wool is where its at.
Thanks Recuiter and Falshrmjgr, I will check into those!
I'd like to suggest some boots, if I may...
ICB's.... Infantry Combat Boots... they're great if you get the right ones.
Hot Weather:
VCL-ICB (Very Cool Light - Infantry Combat Boot)
Wellco makes them. Please get the Tuffkushion sole. Your choice of pattern... I like the ripple, but the sierra is fine too. (About $94)
Cold Weather:
ICB (Infantry Combat Boot)
Wellco all leather boot with Tuffkushion sole and Gore-Tex bootie. Again, if you use it for mostly garrison wear, the ripple sole rocks. If you're off-road, try the sierra.
The ICB is made for the Gov by three companies: Wellco, Belleville, and Bates. Belleville are the most popular and the original contractor. However, their soles are standard, hard boot soles. Bates have been touted as uncomfortable. The word from the sand box is that Wellco is the most dependable one with Tuffkushion sole being the most comfy. There are some British boots that are even better (even more stable), but they're very pricey. Tuffkushion is basically a sneaker type cushioned sole made for combat boots. It's tough, but comfy. All Wellco boots can be resoled and they do sell standard combat boots and jungle boots with Tuffkushion soles for just over $30. Those are a steal and great boots for cadets.
Quote from: afgeo4 on December 09, 2007, 02:32:16 AM
Bates have been touted as uncomfortable.
Respectfully disagree. I've got a pair of Bates ICBs that I bought over a year ago. I wear them daily (well, nightly actually) at work, as well as for CAP. Most comfortable boots I've ever owned. The only time I ever had an issue was just yesterday, while working EMS stand-by at the home of the Detroit
Lioness's Lions, where I was on my feet, on hard concrete floors, walking around the stadium 2-3 times, for about 6 hours. With all that in mind, it don't matter what you're wearing, your feet are going to bug you at the end of the day.
For the record, at Ford Field in Detroit, there are 86 steps from the rail to the top of the lower level.
I got a pair of Bates EMT boots when I finished EMS school and Ive never worn anything else. A few months ago we had a power outage and since we have some elderly and not very healthy folks on our street, I was out wading through the puddles to check on them. I remember thinking "ya, waterproof, right!" and when I got home after two hours tromping through what felt like small rivers, my feet were as dry as when I started. And the greatest thing about them is that they are as light as a feather. Its been said before about others but they really are just like wearing tennis shoes. Another great thing that makes all the difference in the world on your feet is the right socks. I have problems with my legs anyway after an accident and so I always wear over the calf socks (the tightness of the sock keeps circulation going and my legs hurt less after walking all day). About 3 months ago, I was given a pair of 5.11 Tactical's over the calf/boot socks and they feel like putting an innersole in your boot. They actually have six percent rubber fibers in them which when I read it made me go "yeah, right" again, but it makes all the difference in the world. And of course it should for about $10.00/pair (5.11 makes the best stuff and they arent shy about charging for it). Also, any pair of boots, no matter how good, are going to make your feet hurt if they arent laced right. My Bates are side zip, but the laces still loosen so I re-tighten them every few times I put the boots on and have no troubles. Believe me, with my screwed up ankles, legs and back, if I can wear these boots, anyone can.
*SARMedTech is not a paid endorser and has received no compensation for this advertisement. (But if you work for Bates or 5.11 my address is.... ;))
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
Depends on personal preference.
I only wear speed lace cause I'm used to it, but does it really make a difference? Just tuck your lace ends back into the boots and you won't have issues with them coming untied.
Btw... I don't mean to say that Bates make bad boots. They don't. They're my number 2 choice in ICBs... Belleville being number 3. I just really, really LOVE the Tuffkushion sole.
In my mind, the very, very best boot for being outdoors 24/7 is the Ft. Lewis "Go Devils" by Danner, but they are NOT cheap.
Quote from: afgeo4 on December 13, 2007, 05:59:52 AMIn my mind, the very, very best boot for being outdoors 24/7 is the Ft. Lewis "Go Devils" by Danner, but they are NOT cheap.
Now that I'll agree with. 8)
I've had several "Favorite" boots. Just seems like everything that's come along in the last several years has been far superior to what we used WIWAC. I still remember the awful blisters and pain caused by my first pair of issue combat boots, and the few pairs of older jungle boots with the green canvas.
Let's see, in the last several years, I've had a pair of Matterhorns, Bates steel toe (specific name/model escapes me, but they were AF approved) hot weather boots, and a pair of Corcoran Mach's. I've had the Matterhorns about 15 years now, and they are in dire need of a resole. Get to it eventually, though they are getting kind of rough looking. Plan on wearing them tomorrow while running around laying wreaths in 20 degree weather. The Bates and Machs are very good boots too, but I got a good deal on the Bates ICBs, so they became my primary boots.
Since this is like a general boots topic, I thought I would ask the question here.
Ok. I have a fairly deep scratch all the way across my Combat Boots and I would really hate to have to buy new ones. Is there something that can help take away the scratch? I have tried a couple of things to no avail. Any tips would be helpful.
Is this a deep scratch across the toe, as in looks bad? If so, you can feather it out a little bit with very fine sandpaper and then spit-shine (polish filling in scratch). That'll take some elbow grease. One of these days I'm going to spit-shine part of a brick just to show my cadets you can make anything look good with enough effort...and I have a little spare time right now. I'll post a pic when I get it done.
Quote from: MSgt Van on July 03, 2008, 07:30:19 AM
Is this a deep scratch across the toe, as in looks bad? If so, you can feather it out a little bit with very fine sandpaper and then spit-shine (polish filling in scratch). That'll take some elbow grease. One of these days I'm going to spit-shine part of a brick just to show my cadets you can make anything look good with enough effort...and I have a little spare time right now. I'll post a pic when I get it done.
When you're done, take it to an encampment and advertise...."If your boot looks better than my brick...."
I have a spit-shined brick at my home unit; I first got the idea from somebody from NCR that I met at NB years ago (whose name escapes me at the moment).
Every so often the brick requires touchups when those in disbelief scratch the surface to see if in fact the brick is wearing shoe polish... ::)
Quote from: fyrfitrmedic on July 03, 2008, 11:01:34 AM
I have a spit-shined brick at my home unit; I first got the idea from somebody from NCR that I met at NB years ago (whose name escapes me at the moment).
Every so often the brick requires touchups when those in disbelief scratch the surface to see if in fact the brick is wearing shoe polish... ::)
In my boredom, I will have to try....
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on July 03, 2008, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: MSgt Van on July 03, 2008, 07:30:19 AM
Is this a deep scratch across the toe, as in looks bad? If so, you can feather it out a little bit with very fine sandpaper and then spit-shine (polish filling in scratch). That'll take some elbow grease. One of these days I'm going to spit-shine part of a brick just to show my cadets you can make anything look good with enough effort...and I have a little spare time right now. I'll post a pic when I get it done.
When you're done, take it to an encampment and advertise...."If your boot looks better than my brick...."
I had never heard about that before.... I might have to try it with my squadron. I think there are a couple of people who could use serioous boot work. ;D
I can't really shine my boots real good anymore. Because every time I try it seems like we get a mission I don't know if you'd interpet that to be bad or good luck. ;D
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 03, 2008, 04:17:07 PM
I can't really shine my boots real good anymore. Because every time I try it seems like we get a mission I don't know if you'd interpet that to be bad or good luck. ;D
Yeah. I had mine where you could see yourself in my boots..... then.... we go on a bivouac and I get a gash all the way down the toe... fun,fun,fun :D
Quote from: addo1 on July 03, 2008, 04:21:51 PM
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 03, 2008, 04:17:07 PM
I can't really shine my boots real good anymore. Because every time I try it seems like we get a mission I don't know if you'd interpet that to be bad or good luck. ;D
Yeah. I had mine where you could see yourself in my boots..... then.... we go on a bivouac and I get a gash all the way down the toe... fun,fun,fun :D
Thats why I have two sets of boots, One field set, one parade set.
Gotta remember one thing here - the brick is rigid, boots are flexible. Once the brick is polished, very little will disturb the finish. Not so with the boot. Usually whatever polish that stays in the crack will eventually get forced out as the leather flexes. If the scratch is bad, take the boot to a cobbler or leather shop, and see what they can do with it, It's better to spend a little to let the pros fix it, than try it yourself and completely ruin it.
Quote from: SarDragon on July 04, 2008, 08:06:17 AM
Gotta remember one thing here - the brick is rigid, boots are flexible. Once the brick is polished, very little will disturb the finish. Not so with the boot. Usually whatever polish that stays in the crack will eventually get forced out as the leather flexes. If the scratch is bad, take the boot to a cobbler or leather shop, and see what they can do with it, It's better to spend a little to let the pros fix it, than try it yourself and completely ruin it.
Ok. Thanks for the advice.
Down in Fort Campbell outside of gate 7 there is a little korean polish shop and they bassically teardown the boot to it's white base and repolish them from the ground up and they make it look great. ;D brother inlaws old pair:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/gg.jpg)
Looks like some corfam boots!! ;D (Is there even such a thing?)
yeah when he got them from the goverment they looked like crap now it's like a mirror. ;D
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 04, 2008, 04:20:06 PM
Down in Fort Campbell outside of gate 7 there is a little korean polish shop and they bassically teardown the boot to it's white base and repolish them from the ground up and they make it look great. ;D brother inlaws old pair:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/gg.jpg)
Regardless of how shiny your BIL's boots may be, that is a photo of Thorogood Men's 8" Commando Plus Poromeric Uniform Boot. http://www.shoeshackonline.com/site/623303/product/831-6823
You can't get regular boots to look like that because the material is different.
Quote from: addo1 on July 04, 2008, 04:25:03 PM
Looks like some corfam boots!! ;D (Is there even such a thing?)
Yep. Pick your style, and you can find just about anything made with. Parade boots, jump boots, jungle boots, etc. There all out there.
One of my TI's in Basic wore a set for our parade. Bloused up with white laces and with the campaign hat, it looked pretty sharp. Not something we need to be doing, but it looks good.
Quote from: Hawk200 on July 04, 2008, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: addo1 on July 04, 2008, 04:25:03 PM
Looks like some corfam boots!! ;D (Is there even such a thing?)
Yep. Pick your style, and you can find just about anything made with. Parade boots, jump boots, jungle boots, etc. There all out there.
One of my TI's in Basic wore a set for our parade. Bloused up with white laces and with the campaign hat, it looked pretty sharp. Not something we need to be doing, but it looks good.
Yeah, I found a pretty good pair of parade boots at my local Army Navy store...
Speaking of boots, does anyone have any preferences of the type of polish? Kiwi? Kiwi Parade Gloss? Is any one better than the other? Also, does a neutral coat help really to give the boot a better shine?
Lincoln Wax all the way
I have heard of Lincoln wax, but have never saw it... Where can you find it?
google
its rare to find it in anything but a good boots shop, or MCCS
Ok, I might try it.. What about the method where you melt the wax with a heater or a blowdyrer? Does that work?
In the name of everything holy don't melt the wax...
Triple Size cotton ball
Water
Wax
Circle,Circle,Circle...
Quote from: IceNine on July 09, 2008, 09:09:04 PM
In the name of everything holy don't melt the wax...
Triple Size cotton ball
Water
Wax
Circle,Circle,Circle...
Yeah, thats what I do, but some cadets have told me that if you melt the wax slowly with a heater, then it waterproofs the boot along with giving it a better shine. I guess everyone has their ways.
Quote from: addo1 on July 09, 2008, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: IceNine on July 09, 2008, 09:09:04 PM
In the name of everything holy don't melt the wax...
Triple Size cotton ball
Water
Wax
Circle,Circle,Circle...
Yeah, thats what I do, but some cadets have told me that if you melt the wax slowly with a heater, then it waterproofs the boot along with giving it a better shine. I guess everyone has their ways.
Haven't heard that one. Many people rationalize ways to get a "better shine" with all kinds of stories. There is no substitue for good old fashioned elbow grease. Try to do it the easy way, and the shine doesn't hold up.
I know many people want things done now, but it takes some work. Once you have a good base shine, it doesn't take much.
AMEN! When I was in basic training I had 2 instances of people in my own flight intentionally scuff my shoes and boots out of jealousy >:(. I had learned how to shine in MCJROTC in high school.
While in Security Police tech school I kept my boots shined up, even going to have a good shine put on at the BX about 3 times a week. Even after going out in the field on training, confidence course, rifle range, etc, it would still only take me a short time to get the shine back up.
Cotton balls...water...polish...circles. :clap:
I use bits of old t-shirts. I wrap them around my finger as a substitute for cotton balls.
It's amazing to see how few cadets actually know how to shine boots.
I can not figure out the obsession with shiny boots. For the record I do shine my boots but never for more than 15 minutes total and I will sometimes go weeks without doing it. The purpose of the wax to to put moisture into the leather. If you put 1/16" of wax on there you can no longer get the moisture to the leather. Boots exist to be on the ground. The ground at least in my small part of the world is dirty. Why waste the effort when there are more productive things to do? Now if you honestly enjoy rubbing your boots than I guess you do what makes you happy. I know I have a lot of time wasting hobbies.
Quote from: davidsinn on July 10, 2008, 01:03:28 AM
I can not figure out the obsession with shiny boots. For the record I do shine my boots but never for more than 15 minutes total and I will sometimes go weeks without doing it. The purpose of the wax to to put moisture into the leather. If you put 1/16" of wax on there you can no longer get the moisture to the leather. Boots exist to be on the ground. The ground at least in my small part of the world is dirty. Why waste the effort when there are more productive things to do? Now if you honestly enjoy rubbing your boots than I guess you do what makes you happy. I know I have a lot of time wasting hobbies.
Well, you see, there is something called inspection. It just so happens that we must pass inspection to get promoted, and boots ARE on the list.
that is not true at all heck it's not even a requirment to have a review board to get promoted you must have 1) complete uniform 2)completed required aerospace/and or leadership test 3) Pass drill test if neccesary.
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 10, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
that is not true at all heck it's not even a requirment to have a review board to get promoted you must have 1) complete uniform 2)completed required aerospace/and or leadership test 3) Pass drill test if neccesary.
Maybe, but my squadron does promotion board, and a complete uniform includes it looking good. Boots are part of our uniform.
Tonight I'll take a pic before and after I shine my boots. I'll time how long it takes. It does not take huge investments of time to get a good looking boot. BTW I wear my boots everyday all day. I find them more comfortable than shoes so mine can take a beating from time to time.
When Empires got bigger (17th-19 Century) boots got better. Multiple days of marching was required to project combat power into the war zone, meant armies move long distances quickly. Nike (the God of War) makes shoes for competition but reflects this shoes of war culture. High polish probably came from the cavalry officers boot. The boot was at eye level when mounted upon a horse, 3 times more leather than the infantry boot, and taken care of by a full time "batman" or "Bootman."
The military is de-emphasizing boot polishing for good reasons. Garrison wear and Battle Wear are becoming close to the same also. Working long and hard on a boot shine may be like a nice suburban yard. A symbol of pride but a waste of time. (which is why some one does your yard work but you keep your boots at a level of another era without a batman.)
I like my boots shiny too. I hate when they're scuffed. I spit shine and then strip when the speckling begins. I have acquired the boot polish fetish but at least on an historical basis, I'm pretty sure, I'm nuts.
With regards;
ED OBRIEN
Kinda nice to have an historian in the house.
Interesting never knew that. *enemy* oh look something black and shiny coming right towards me.(two seconds later) *enemy* oww never trust a man wearing shiny boots. I know that was stupid but hey I thought it was funny.
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 10, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
Interesting never knew that. *enemy* oh look something black and shiny coming right towards me.(two seconds later) *enemy* oww never trust a man wearing shiny boots. I know that was stupid but hey I thought it was funny.
Huh?
I keep my boots shiny for the same reason I iron and starch my uniform, I like to look good, and I think a well kept uniform can express the ability to care for and take pride in something.
Plus, they're SHINY!!! ;D
shiny objects do attract people.
Regarding history and the shiny boot fetish. I've been in the room where space-pilots remotely fly spy satellites on Recon duty... they wear flight suits. I've also been in the room where they fly the UAV Global Hawk and most of them wear flight suits. It does no good to point out this goofy issue. They know it looks a little crazy and don't care. Cultures aren't built on practicality alone... so until they outlaw it... I'll likely spit shine my boots and starch-press my duty-uni. Like I said earlier, I'm probably nuts... but knowing and acknowledging one IS nuts is considered by psychologists as mentally healthy.
With regards;
ED OBRIEN
also it is said to be the first step.lol I'm kidding
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
COMBAT BOOTS! Then again I have giant feet so they just fit better!
The different types of laces are all found on combat boots.
I prefer speed lace, I find it easier to work with, and it is, well, faster to work with (hence the name).
As to different types of boots, I prefer jungle boots. As a Floridian I have no need for a heavier boot, and the breathable nature of jungle boots makes wearing them in the summer much more tolerable. There is a lot less leather to polish too. ;)
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 10, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
COMBAT BOOTS! Then again I have giant feet so they just fit better!
I have freakish large feet... Size 15. And I am only 14? scary... >:D Anyways, I have a hard time finding boots for me, because my foot is VERY LONG AND NARROW. The problem is, that my feet slip around in the boot, because my foot is so narrow. I have to put like a no-slip shoe pad in the bottom of my boot. Anyone else have this same problem?
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 10, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
Interesting never knew that. *enemy* oh look something black and shiny coming right towards me.(two seconds later) *enemy* oww never trust a man wearing shiny boots. I know that was stupid but hey I thought it was funny.
Well, actually that is sort of right... My chief is joining the Navy Seals, and his unit won't let them shine their boots, as they are supposed to be "invisible." He wears the same boots to CAP meeting as to his seals meeting. He shines them for CAP, then goes and scuffs them for seals... Sad, but it works.
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 10, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
COMBAT BOOTS! Then again I have giant feet so they just fit better!
I have freakish large feet... Size 15. And I am only 14? scary... >:D Anyways, I have a hard time finding boots for me, because my foot is VERY LONG AND NARROW. The problem is, that my feet slip around in the boot, because my foot is so narrow. I have to put like a no-slip shoe pad in the bottom of my boot. Anyone else have this same problem?
I have really wide feet, so I have to get the SWAT combat boots, they are very comfortable! Try the tying your boots tigh, and putting the non lip pads in that should hold it....and yes it is very weird how big your foot is haha!
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 11, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 10, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
COMBAT BOOTS! Then again I have giant feet so they just fit better!
I have freakish large feet... Size 15. And I am only 14? scary... >:D Anyways, I have a hard time finding boots for me, because my foot is VERY LONG AND NARROW. The problem is, that my feet slip around in the boot, because my foot is so narrow. I have to put like a no-slip shoe pad in the bottom of my boot. Anyone else have this same problem?
I have really wide feet, so I have to get the SWAT combat boots, they are very comfortable! Try the tying your boots tigh, and putting the non lip pads in that should hold it....and yes it is very weird how big your foot is haha!
I had kept up with my age until this year ;)
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 11, 2008, 12:21:44 AM
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:20:09 AM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 11, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: TEAM SURGE on July 10, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 20, 2007, 05:55:32 PM
OK, now is speed lace, full lace, or regular lace better??? I'm confused.
COMBAT BOOTS! Then again I have giant feet so they just fit better!
LOL I think my feet are shrinking.... ???
I have freakish large feet... Size 15. And I am only 14? scary... >:D Anyways, I have a hard time finding boots for me, because my foot is VERY LONG AND NARROW. The problem is, that my feet slip around in the boot, because my foot is so narrow. I have to put like a no-slip shoe pad in the bottom of my boot. Anyone else have this same problem?
I have really wide feet, so I have to get the SWAT combat boots, they are very comfortable! Try the tying your boots tigh, and putting the non lip pads in that should hold it....and yes it is very weird how big your foot is haha!
I had kept up with my age until this year ;)
I think my feet are shrinking.....???
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:12:34 AM
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 10, 2008, 04:45:43 PM
Interesting never knew that. *enemy* oh look something black and shiny coming right towards me.(two seconds later) *enemy* oww never trust a man wearing shiny boots. I know that was stupid but hey I thought it was funny.
Well, actually that is sort of right... My chief is joining the Navy Seals, and his unit won't let them shine their boots, as they are supposed to be "invisible." He wears the same boots to CAP meeting as to his seals meeting. He shines them for CAP, then goes and scuffs them for seals... Sad, but it works.
Uh-huh...........
Quote from: addo1 on July 11, 2008, 12:09:09 AM
I have freakish large feet... Size 15. And I am only 14? scary... >:D Anyways, I have a hard time finding boots for me, because my foot is VERY LONG AND NARROW. The problem is, that my feet slip around in the boot, because my foot is so narrow. I have to put like a no-slip shoe pad in the bottom of my boot. Anyone else have this same problem?
I wear size 15's as well. The problem I see is that since not many companies make boots in size 15 a standard as to what is size 15 hasn't been established. No 2 pairs of size 15's seem to fit the same. I've bought 2 pairs of black boots, one jungle style, and the other are EMT types. In both cases I don't wear them for missions because it's guaranteed that I'll get blisters within 30 minutes. My main problem is the fit around the heel. I've gotten to where I only wear civilian hiking boots. The don't meet uniform standards but it's either that or I'll have to pull my team back out of the woods eventually because my feet will have turned into minced meat.
Alright here are a few Before and after pics of my boots. Using an hour of my time,a cloth,water,and lincoln wax.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS471.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS472.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS473.jpg)
Quote from: colorguard_rifle on July 11, 2008, 02:09:17 AM
Alright here are a few Before and after pics of my boots. Using an hour of my time,a cloth,water,and lincoln wax.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS471.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS472.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/cts-12/CAPPICS473.jpg)
Not bad... I will have to try and find some lincoln wax.
I think this thread has run it's course.