Civil Air Patrol ES [AFAIDL 02130D] Course

[thefischNX01]

I was looking over the requirements to get my tech rating in ES and I noticed that I had to take the AFAIDL 02130D Course; Civil Air Patrol Emergency Services.

I have signed up for it, but I was wondering if anyone has taken it and can give me a heads up about what to expect.

Thanks

[Eclipse]

OK, I'll put it back and see if anyone disagrees.

To my understanding this test is no longer required or available from AFIDL.

If you notice, the most current Pamphlet is dated 1998 - the ES curriculum has been revised (significantly) 2 or 3  three times since then - the most recent being 2004.

About 2 years ago at a Wing conference, I mentioned to the DOS that members were being delayed in their progression because the requests for the 213 test were being bounced back at AFIDL - he indicated to me that the test had been discontinued and was no longer required.

Interestingly, though the test is indicated in the text of the pamphlet, it is not mentioned on the sign-of page.

Anybody know anything different?

[isuhawkeye]

the course has great information in it, but Unless something has changed the course has not been updated in quite some time.

[Flying Pig]

I ordered the course and recieved it about 3 months ago, so unless its a recent change, you can still order it.  But Its been a nightmare trying to order the test. Maybe thats why.  Can anyone confirm that it is no longer required? Or offered?   Because if it isnt required for the tech rating Im not going to bother with trying to order the test.  Ive read the workbook but between work, CAP ECI 13, going to SLS and working on my Form 91, I have enough on my plate.  On the ES Officer tech requirements the ES officer course is still listed as a requirement. 

[SoCalCAPOfficer]

I also have this course and am getting ready to take the test.   I thought it was still required for the tech rating in ES.  I sure would like to know if this is still required.

[SDF_Specialist]

I've been waiting to find out the status of my course materials. If this isn't required, then forget it!

[RiverAux]

Easy enough to check, why not just pull up a current ES specialty track document?

[SDF_Specialist]

It says that you have to complete it for the Technician Level ESO. I'm just wondering how up to date this is since there are a few other regs that aren't up to date.

[Camas]

I thought the AFIADL course 02130D was still required for the tech rating in ES.  I sure would like to know if this is still required.

Yes it is. Re: CAPP 213 page 2

But Its been a nightmare trying to order the test.

Have you tried going to this link and then to the very bottom of the page where it reads "current and prospective students"? That should open up another page with instructions on getting a test sent to your unit. You'll need the shred code for your wing. Your wing testing officer can provide that for you; it's no big secret.

[IceNine]

It says that you have to complete it for the Technician Level ESO. I'm just wondering how up to date this is since there are a few other regs that aren't up to date.

This like other programs that have undergone significant change (i.e. Comms, safety) have left the specality tracks in the dust.  They do not meet the needs of the current programs but because there is no updated pamphlet we are still using them just as listed.

[thefischNX01]

Processed. Course materials will be mailed within 4-6 weeks.

Looks like the course is still available

[SarDragon]

Processed. Course materials will be mailed within 4-6 weeks.

Looks like the course is still available

The course doesn't do as much good without a test, the lack of which has been discussed above.

[SoCalCAPOfficer]

They mailed my test out right away.  I just have'nt taken it yet.

[SarDragon]

Oops. 

[Eclipse]

I'm working on confirming this thorough the staff officer who indicated it to me. 

Detail to follow as soon as I get an answer...

[Eclipse]

I just heard from my Wing DO, who indicated that this came direct from John Desmaris because although you may be able to pull the >test<, you could no longer pull the >course<.

He is going to confirm this at the GLR ES conferences this weekend.  I'll let you know what he says.

[SAR-EMT1]

Ordered and recieved the test three months ago. Got the test and passed it last month. CAPs online database confirms it and I got a nice little addenum to my end of course postcard stating that I recieved an "honorable score of 90 + % "

I NEVER had an flack about the course or test (to best of my memory) from either Group, Wing, or AFIADL. According to the AFIADL material completion of the course is currently required for ES Tech.

Having taken the course I can say that for the most part it serves as a generic overview of CAP ES operations and procedures. It doesnt really go into detail about anything.

[SDF_Specialist]

I contacted my wing's Deputy ESO and asked about this course. To his knowledge, there is nothing that says the course is no longer a requirement. So looks like you have to take it.

[O-Rex]

Took the course ages ago.  If it's the same one, I remember that there's a scenario in which an overzealous noob member/Squadron CC 'self-activates' and gets himself (and a ground team) in a bit of a pickle.  That stayed with me, and drove a point home that others seem to have missed over the years.

[Flying Pig]

Yup...thats the same course.  Lt. Johnson I think is the name they use.