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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: ßτε on March 30, 2011, 06:27:07 PM

Title: Test security
Post by: ßτε on March 30, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
How do units maintain test security when any senior member can order milestone tests from NHQ?
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: jimmydeanno on March 30, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
They can order them, they're sent to the unit address.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: davidsinn on March 30, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 30, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
They can order them, they're sent to the unit address.

Yep. And nine times out of ten that's the commander's home.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: coudano on March 30, 2011, 06:45:34 PM
however, senior members with access can download the paper versions of the new cadet tests directly off e-services
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: tsrup on March 30, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
Integrity?

Just because you can doesn't mean you should..
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: davidsinn on March 30, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: tsrup on March 30, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
Integrity?

Just because you can doesn't mean you should..

We're supposed to. It's part of the job. TCOs generally do not have access to the correct module in eServices. We can not however, download the milestones.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: lordmonar on March 30, 2011, 07:21:42 PM
I don't understand the question.

There has always been this level of expected integrity.

If you can't trust your squadorn CC's....why are they squadron CC's?
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: Spaceman3750 on March 30, 2011, 07:26:16 PM
Why doesn't every squadron have a PO box? At least in my neck of the woods, they're not that expensive.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: Eclipse on March 30, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
Commanders should not be receiving tests, they are not allowed to serve as TCO's, administer tests, or perform the TCO's roles.

Further, per 50-4, this is what is required, and is an SUI issue:

1-5. Testing Material Storage. All testing materials, regardless of source, will be stored in either (1) a metal filing cabinet equipped with a steel lock bar and a three-combination dial-type padlock, (2) a metal file cabinet equipped with an internal (built-in) combination lock, or (3) an upright safe or vault.
CAPR 50-4 10 MARCH 2010 5
a. Anytime the test material storage container is open, the TCO, TA, or unit commander must be present to prevent test compromise.

b. Materials other than testing materials will not be stored in the testing material storage cabinet.

c. Lock combinations must be changed at least annually or whenever the TCO, TA(s) or unit commander changes. Document lock combination changes on test inventory log. be stored in the testing material storage cabinet.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: EMT-83 on March 30, 2011, 07:38:03 PM
Are you going to drive to the post office to check for mail?
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: davidsinn on March 30, 2011, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on March 30, 2011, 07:26:16 PM
Why doesn't every squadron have a PO box? At least in my neck of the woods, they're not that expensive.

Because the only member of my unit's staff that even lives in the same county as the unit is the commander so the effect would be the same as just sending it to his house so we save the money and do just that.
Title: Re: Test security
Post by: SarDragon on March 30, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
I used to be the Admin officer, and since I lived closest to the PO box, I got to pick up the mail. I opened it all, and routed it as needed.

IIRC, all the tests I ever got in the mail were double enveloped, so the outside one could be opened, and the inside one remained sealed until the TCO got it.