FMF Badge on CAP uniforms

Started by FMFDOC, February 14, 2013, 10:53:21 PM

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Slim

Bro,

I got some of the fabric tapes from Spur a couple years ago, and was very pleased with them.  Unlike the webbed tapes, these don't shrink up and pucker when you run them through the laundry, the quality of the embroidery was exactly what I always got from Spur, don't seem to be fading, and they're a pretty close match to the wings, badges and grade-exact, in my case.

Quote from: Stonewall on February 16, 2013, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on February 16, 2013, 05:57:50 PM
^ I ordered a bunch of different badges from them for me and a few prior service guys in my squadron. All were amazing!

I just ordered CAP and LAST NAME tapes from them.  I ordered some from Vanguard and they started using the "fabric strip" instead of the webbed tapes.  Not sure why the change, but they look HORRIBLE.

Example:



And Vanguard's GTM badges are ridiculous looking now.  The wreath ("wings") look all spiky/pointy now.


Slim

Eclipse

The fabric issue must be a VG issue, because I've ordered a bunch from Spur as well, in ultramarine, black, orange, and dark blue, and
they are far superior to the webbed ones.  No pucker, the color stays nice and bright, and Spur always does a great job with the
embroidery.  I would not go back to the webbed.

I ordered on Gold on Olive for my son today, will post the quality when I get them.

"That Others May Zoom"

Devil Doc

Captain Brandon P. Smith CAP
Former HM3, U.S NAVY
Too many Awards, Achievments and Qualifications to list.


Pylon

I'm assuming he means the FMF Enlisted Warfare Specialist badge for hospital corpsmen, which you're displaying in your signature.  Maybe Docs have a different nickname for it?
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Texas Raiders

#24
FMF= Fleet Marine Force.  The Fleet Marine Force Enlisted Warfare Specialist Device (FMFEWS) is a qualification insignia of the United States Navy earned by enlisted U.S. Navy sailors assigned to the Fleet Marine Force of the U.S. Marine Corps who have successfully completed the necessary requirements of the Enlisted Fleet Marine Force Warfare Specialist (EFMFWS) Program per OPNAV Instruction 1414.4B. This involves serving one year with a Marine Corps Unit (two years for reserves), passing the Marine Physical Fitness Test (PFT), a written test, demonstrating skills used in service with the Marines such as weapon breakdown and familiarization, land navigation, combat communications and an oral examination by senior enlisted sailors who are FMF qualified. The Enlisted Fleet Marine Force Warfare Specialist designation is most commonly awarded to the Hospital Corpsman (HM) and Religious Programs Specialist (RP) ratings, although it is also awarded to other sailors who support Marine Corps Commands. 

It is indeed pictured in the HM3's signature.

SM Randy Patterson
DPO
399th Comp. Squadron,  Danbury, CT "Yankee Hatters"
IAFF Local 1567
USCG- 1998-2010   Boatswain's Mate
Former member of the old 273rd/ Mid-County Composite Squadron, Nederland, Texas- 1994-2000

Devil Doc

I know I was being Sarcastic, LOL. Gotta get my thread count up ya know.
Captain Brandon P. Smith CAP
Former HM3, U.S NAVY
Too many Awards, Achievments and Qualifications to list.


PHall

Quote from: Devil Doc on February 19, 2013, 11:40:32 PM
I know I was being Sarcastic, LOL. Gotta get my thread count up ya know.


Dude, the emoicon with the devils horns is there for a reason.... 

Get with the program Popeye!       >:D

Stonewall

Quote from: Stonewall on February 16, 2013, 05:53:05 PM
FWIW - if you have military badges that ARE authorized for wear, you can have them made white on ultramarine...



Spur Name Tapes 1800nametapes.com.   They look identical to the standard military badges.  Just call them and tell them exactly what you want, "white on ultramarine blue Airborne and Air Assault".  Again, they perfectly done and only at $2 a set.


And then there's Nametags4u.com



I had ordered new name tapes and CAP tapes a week or so ago and got an email saying they can't even make CAP tapes anymore (I ordered some a year ago).   :(

After getting some rank from Vanguard, I ordered some Lt Col from Spur and they are 10x better than the ones from Vanguard.

I got new military badges (white on blue) and Lt Col rank.  HIGH QUALITY!
Serving since 1987.

PHall

You can get CAP tapes from AAFES these days. I don't think they have to worry about a C&D letter. >:D

J2H

I ordered my SF function badge from a company that was linked through here, still waiting on it to see how it looks
SSgt Jeffrey Hughes, Squadron NCO
Glenn L. Martin Composite Squadron MD-031
#217169

68w20

The topic reminded me of a question I had a while back.  Table 6-5 of M39-1 specifies that the Combat Infantry Badge (CIB) may be worn, but also refers to an "Army Medical Badge."  Anyone know off hand if they were referring to the Expert Field Medical Badge (EFMB) or Combat Medic Badge (CMB)?  Both?

Duke Dillio

It has always been my interpretation that you can wear both however it never hurts to check the KB or give National a call if you have a question.  I would also assume that there will be guidance in the future regarding the CAB.  I have not heard anything otherwise.

Flying Pig

Quote from: PHall on February 20, 2013, 12:09:05 AM
Quote from: Devil Doc on February 19, 2013, 11:40:32 PM
I know I was being Sarcastic, LOL. Gotta get my thread count up ya know.


Dude, the emoicon with the devils horns is there for a reason.... 

Get with the program Popeye!       >:D

GUYS!!  ..... Devil Doc has the FMF pin in his signature block picture with his ribbons..... Geeeeeezzzz.  Dont worry Devil..... I got ur back!  At least Pylon was on the ball!

SarDragon

Bob, he's a Buzz Butt. They don't grok Canoe Club stuff.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Stonewall

Quote from: Flying Pig on February 28, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
GUYS!!  ..... Devil Doc has the FMF pin in his signature block picture with his ribbons..... Geeeeeezzzz.  Dont worry Devil..... I got ur back!  At least Pylon was on the ball!

As the one who designed and hosts his signature block, I too was on the ball.  And I'm not a Devil Dawg!  I just know stuff.
Serving since 1987.

GroundHawg

Quote from: 68w10 on February 27, 2013, 10:37:41 PM
The topic reminded me of a question I had a while back.  Table 6-5 of M39-1 specifies that the Combat Infantry Badge (CIB) may be worn, but also refers to an "Army Medical Badge."  Anyone know off hand if they were referring to the Expert Field Medical Badge (EFMB) or Combat Medic Badge (CMB)?  Both?

The EFMB and CAB "should" be automatic as Air Force  personel can and do earn them. I would assume that since the CIB can be worn that the CMB can be worn as well. Since there is no ryme or reason behind the decisions Ive seen made by national or KB regarding prior and other service badges, maybe not.

Stonewall

#36
The Air Force only allows you to wear the CIB, CMB, or CAB when you are assigned to an Army unit.  As an example, a TACP would be assigned to an Army unit and may be awarded a CAB, but upon returning to his unit, it would have to be removed.  That said, while assigned to the Army unit, he would either wear ACUs or Multi-Cams (not ABUs).  These devices are not authorized for wear on ABUs or AF Blues.


Quote from: AFI 36-2903

Miscellaneous Badges.
10.5.1. Miscellaneous Badges. A listing of miscellaneous badges authorized to be worn onthe BDU uniform as indicated.10.5.1.1.

Combat Infantry, Combat Medical and Combat Action Badge.
Wear onlywhile permanently assigned to and performing duties with sister services components.
Note: Combat Infantry, Combat Medical and Combat Action badges are not authorizedon ABU.10.5.1.1.1. Permanent assignment denotes non TDY status. This applies to otherbadges or patches i.e., Army Combat patches earned or awarded by sister servicecomponents.10.5.1.1.2. Upon Permanent Change of Station (PCS) to an Air Force unit, memberwill remove all sister service patches. OPR is Sister Service Directive; ArmyMilPERCEN; Navy; BUPERS etc.10.5.1.2.

Pathfinder Badge and Ranger Tab.
Wear only while permanently assigned toand performing duties with sister services components.10.5.1.2.1. Permanent assignment denotes non TDY status. This applies to otherbadges or patches; i.e., Army Combat patches earned or awarded by sister servicecomponents.
Note: Patches are not authorized on ABU.10.5.1.2.2. Upon Permanent Change of Station (PCS) to an Air Force unit, memberwill remove all sister service patches. OPR is Sister Service Directives, ArmyMilPERCEN, Navy; BUPERS, etc.10.5.1.3.

US Army Air Assault Badge.
Authorized permanent wear of black US ArmyAir Assault badge on the BDUs only, regardless of duty assignment. Air Force membersare authorized to wear badge upon graduation from Air Assault school.10.5.1.3.1. US Army Air Assault badge is not authorized for wear on the ABU.10.5.1.3.2. Upon Permanent Change of Station (PCS) to an Air Force unit, wear of Army Air Assault badge is optional. OPR is Sister Service Directive; ArmyMilPERCEN; Navy; BUPERS etc.
Serving since 1987.

PHall

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  The above pretty much says it all.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Duke Dillio

Quote
CAPM 39-1:
6-7. US Military Badges. CAP members may wear only the US military badges authorized for wear
on the US Air Force uniform
when earned through qualification and awarded by competent authority for
service performed in any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States or its allies. The military
badges authorized for wear on the CAP uniform and BDU are listed in Table 6-5. Before wearing any
badge not listed in this table, contact National Headquarters/LMM for clarification. US Military badges
are not authorized for wear on any of the CAP distinctive uniforms.
Since no CAP member is permanently assigned to an Army unit on behalf of the Air Force, wouldn't that mean that you couldn't wear them?

GroundHawg

Quote from: Duke Dillio on February 28, 2013, 05:11:41 AM
Quote
CAPM 39-1:
6-7. US Military Badges. CAP members may wear only the US military badges authorized for wear
on the US Air Force uniform
when earned through qualification and awarded by competent authority for
service performed in any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States or its allies. The military
badges authorized for wear on the CAP uniform and BDU are listed in Table 6-5. Before wearing any
badge not listed in this table, contact National Headquarters/LMM for clarification. US Military badges
are not authorized for wear on any of the CAP distinctive uniforms.
Since no CAP member is permanently assigned to an Army unit on behalf of the Air Force, wouldn't that mean that you couldn't wear them?


Been saying this for years. I think this would be true, except they specifically list the CIB as authorized. And it still bothers me that when a member of the USAF wears the CAB, they have to wear it below their occupational badges. Just not right.

http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/08/080410-Airman.aspx