New uniform

[lt_viper82]

I heard that we will be changing uniforms again can anybody tell me when and wear to buy new ones.

[lordmonar]

No where....because no one offical has said anything.

Wait....it will not happen till after this summer at the earliest.

[Abby.L]

Welcome to CAPTALK. Here, you will learn not to ask about new possible uniforms, as everything about it will be dissected, or otherwise discussed. You will find many threads regarding uniforms, and the gist of them all is that of we just have to wait until official word is presented.

Again, welcome. Best save any threads like this for later. 

[SarDragon]

Welcome to CAPTALK. Here, you will learn not to ask about new possible uniforms, as everything about it will be dissected, or otherwise discussed. You will find many threads regarding uniforms, and the gist of them all is that of we just have to wait until official word is presented.

Again, welcome. Best save any threads like this for later. 

Yeah. Like until you have grandchildren.   

[Cliff_Chambliss]

Welcome to CAPTALK. Here, you will learn not to ask about new possible uniforms, as everything about it will be dissected, or otherwise discussed. You will find many threads regarding uniforms, and the gist of them all is that of we just have to wait until official word is presented.

Again, welcome. Best save any threads like this for later. 

Yeah. Like until you have grandchildren.   

But I now have 13 grandchildren and I'm STILL WAITING.

[ammotrucker]

But I now have 13 grandchildren and I'm STILL WAITING.[/quote]
+1

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

No where....because no one offical has said anything.

Wait....it will not happen till after this summer at the earliest.

If then, and then I strongly doubt we'll have "new" uniforms...just extremely minor tweaking of the existing uniforms (like changing the colour of the blazer from blue to grey ).

[Angus]

No where....because no one offical has said anything.

Wait....it will not happen till after this summer at the earliest.

If then, and then I strongly doubt we'll have "new" uniforms...just extremely minor tweaking of the existing uniforms (like changing the colour of the blazer from blue to grey ).

God I hope we don't get a tweak like that.  I wouldn't mind seeing a tweak like changing the name tapes to something like a darker blue that would match the BBDU's.  It would look sharp with BDU's till we wear those into the grave and eventually something like an ABU if we were to ever adopt that.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

God I hope we don't get a tweak like that.  I wouldn't mind seeing a tweak like changing the name tapes to something like a darker blue that would match the BBDU's.  It would look sharp with BDU's till we wear those into the grave and eventually something like an ABU if we were to ever adopt that.

I agree with you about the BBDU darker nametapes.

However, I don't think we'll ever see ABU's.  The Air Force does not want us to look too much like them, though they have no problem with JROTC doing so.  Also, the "we gotta look distinctive!" crowd would be most unhappy with it.  I think that once BDU's are finally exhausted, it'll be BBDU's across the board.

I was being partially tongue-in-cheek about the grey blazer, but given NHQ's love affair with that non-colour, you never know...

[Angus]

God I hope we don't get a tweak like that.  I wouldn't mind seeing a tweak like changing the name tapes to something like a darker blue that would match the BBDU's.  It would look sharp with BDU's till we wear those into the grave and eventually something like an ABU if we were to ever adopt that.

I agree with you about the BBDU darker nametapes.

However, I don't think we'll ever see ABU's.  The Air Force does not want us to look too much like them, though they have no problem with JROTC doing so.  Also, the "we gotta look distinctive!" crowd would be most unhappy with it.  I think that once BDU's are finally exhausted, it'll be BBDU's across the board.

I was being partially tongue-in-cheek about the grey blazer, but given NHQ's love affair with that non-colour, you never know...

I think we'll eventually adopt the ABU.  But I'm in the camp that we won't get it for at least another 3 years or so.  WIth the way uniform changes have been coming (till the moritorium) I fiugre it will go something like this.  (Now this is best case scenario mind you)  At this summer's National Boards it will be brought up, MA Blue will give the ok to start developing a look so we're "distinctvie" from them.  After that it will take the rest of the time to develop something that Ma Blue and we can both live with. 

[MIKE]

The ABU will be phased out before CAP ever gets it.

[av8tr1]

I don't usually post in these topics but I can solve this for everyone.  My BDUs are getting pretty old.  Still (very proudly) wearing my issued BDU pants from 20+ years ago.  So I think I will go buy a new set or two.  The moment the time available to return them expires we will get new uniform regulations to something other than BDUs.  I'd put money on it. 

[Persona non grata]

Rumor has it that we will be getting the CAPCU   or surplus WW 1 wool army uniforms that they found in the basement at FT. KNOX

[Nathan]

I don't want any new uniforms. The ones we have work just fine, and there are plenty of them.

[Camas]

I would hope that, after the CSU fiasco, we'd learn. If CAP ever comes out with another new uniform (heaven forbid!) I would hope that members stay far away from it.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I would hope that, after the CSU fiasco, we'd learn. If CAP ever comes out with another new uniform (heaven forbid!) I would hope that members stay far away from it.

Unless it's grey.

I would wager that the CSU could be reissued in grey cloth and it would be perfectly fine.

I don't believe we'll ever see the ABU.

Actually, I don't believe we'll ever see any change from the status quo.

[MSG Mac]

The moratorium ondiscussing  uniform issues ends at this summer's National Board meeting.

[NCRblues]

I also believe that Elvis did not die, he just went home...

oh wait...is this not the place to make wild guesses in the dark?

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I can't believe people like radioman and the rest of the gray brigade are so against the ABU. They love gray and the ABU is gray, the BBDU is blue, hence Blue BDU.

[caphornbuckle]

This discussion came up when we were authorized BDU's back in the early 90's.  If anyone remembers, the Air Force was in BDU's MANY YEARS before CAP was (early mid 80's, I think).  Just give it some time.  There will probably be some changes in the next 5 or so years.

[PA Guy]

The Air Force does not want us to look too much like them, though they have no problem with JROTC doing so. 

AFJROTC doesn't have the extra added attraction of thousands of senior members who are the biggest offenders in uniform wear and are adults, at least from a chronologic point of view.  Like AFJROTC I don't think the AF would have a problem with cadets wearing ABUs assuming they have a problem at all.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

AFJROTC doesn't have the extra added attraction of thousands of senior members who are the biggest offenders in uniform wear and are adults, at least from a chronologic point of view.  Like AFJROTC I don't think the AF would have a problem with cadets wearing ABUs assuming they have a problem at all.

That's quite a broad brush you paint with.  Thousands are uniform offenders?

And that's just it...we don't know what, if any, problems the AF has with us.  We only have rumour, hearsay and conjecture.  The last time I recall the AF directly saying it had a problem with us uniform-wise is when we got the berry boards...and we've been carrying the water for that ever since.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I can't believe people like radioman and the rest of the gray brigade are so against the ABU. They love gray and the ABU is gray, the BBDU is blue, hence Blue BDU.

But the ABU is not solid grey; furthermore, it is an adaptation of a military uniform, which is what I believe the "grey brigade" are against.  The same goes for the BBDU, with the somewhat-exception of the Coast Guard's ODU.

We have no right (except for cadets) in some of that lot's eyes to be wearing an adapted military uniform, and the only way to achieve "distinctiveness" is have everything grey and as "demilitarised" as possible.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I can't believe people like radioman and the rest of the gray brigade are so against the ABU. They love gray and the ABU is gray, the BBDU is blue, hence Blue BDU.

But the ABU is not solid grey; furthermore, it is an adaptation of a military uniform, which is what I believe the "grey brigade" are against.  The same goes for the BBDU, with the somewhat-exception of the Coast Guard's ODU.

We have no right (except for cadets) in some of that lot's eyes to be wearing an adapted military uniform, and the only way to achieve "distinctiveness" is have everything grey and as "demilitarised" as possible.

Insert airplane sound with your hand flying past your head here.

[AngelWings]

We have the hugest communication problem over the simplest of topics. I don't get it at all.

[Extremepredjudice]

AFJROTC doesn't have the extra added attraction of thousands of senior members who are the biggest offenders in uniform wear and are adults, at least from a chronologic point of view.  Like AFJROTC I don't think the AF would have a problem with cadets wearing ABUs assuming they have a problem at all.

That's quite a broad brush you paint with.  Thousands are uniform offenders?

And that's just it...we don't know what, if any, problems the AF has with us.  We only have rumour, hearsay and conjecture.  The last time I recall the AF directly saying it had a problem with us uniform-wise is when we got the berry boards...and we've been carrying the water for that ever since.

Sir there are 34k SMs. I bet you at least 3-4k are uniform offenders. Thus thousands

[PA Guy]

AFJROTC doesn't have the extra added attraction of thousands of senior members who are the biggest offenders in uniform wear and are adults, at least from a chronologic point of view.  Like AFJROTC I don't think the AF would have a problem with cadets wearing ABUs assuming they have a problem at all.

That's quite a broad brush you paint with.  Thousands are uniform offenders?

That's not what I said but since you brought it up, as of 30 Apr '12 there were 34,693 senior members in CAP.  My WAG is that at least 10%, and I think that is conservative, are uniform offenders so, yes thousands.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

That's not what I said but since you brought it up, as of 30 Apr '12 there were 34,693 senior members in CAP.  My WAG is that at least 10%, and I think that is conservative, are uniform offenders so, yes thousands.

As long as it's a WAG, because there's no quantifiable way to substantiate it.

[AngelWings]

This seems like a good photo to use in this situation.

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[Brad]

This distinctive enough? Just replace the Galactic Empire cog with The Triangle Thingy and NHQ and the rest would be happy   (Just got my 501st Legion uniform approved the other day, couldn't resist sharing)

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

It looks too "military."^^^

[PHall]

It looks too "military."^^^

It makes you look like a wannabe. You can't wear it because someone could mistake you for a real Imperial Storm Trooper.
Can't have that happening!

[abdsp51]

For the longest time AFJROTC couldn't wear BDUs at all, and many schools were cancelling the program because it was too military.

[Nikos]

I would really like to see the uniforms made out of something like Indura Ultra Soft for safety reasons.

[PHall]

I would really like to see the uniforms made out of something like Indura Ultra Soft for safety reasons.

No, that would make them a safety hazard because it would be too easy to fall asleep while wearing them!

[SARDOC]

I would really like to see the uniforms made out of something like Indura Ultra Soft for safety reasons.

No, that would make them a safety hazard because it would be too easy to fall asleep while wearing them!

Nah..Not a Safety Hazard...As long as it's an Air Force uniform.  Sleeping comfortably seems to be a talking point for recruiters.   

[Sgt. Fischer]

do you mean ADU's? Well, than, no. I talked to  Col. Taylor (She's from AZ wing) And she informed me that we are not getting the new uniforms. 

[Brad]

do you mean ADU's? Well, than, no. I talked to  Col. Taylor (She's from AZ wing) And she informed me that we are not getting the new uniforms. 

Ask all 52 Wing Commanders and I guarantee you you will get 52 different answers. Nothing is known for sure right now, one way or another. Wait and see what CAP-USAF and NHQ say, those are the only official sources.

Also there is no such creature as the "ADU". It's ABU - Airman Battle Uniform. This constant misnomer of terms simply shows how pitiful the rumor mill in CAP can be at times.

[EMT-83]

... Ask all 52 Wing Commanders and I guarantee you you will get 52 different answers. ...

Actually, you should receive the same answer. In fact, any CAP member should be able to provide the very same information.

The uniform committee will make its recommendation to the National Board. In due time, they will decide on any changes.

Despite all the wasted bandwidth and teeth gnashing on the subject, it's that simple.

[Sgt. Fischer]

do you mean ADU's? Well, than, no. I talked to  Col. Taylor (She's from AZ wing) And she informed me that we are not getting the new uniforms. 

Ask all 52 Wing Commanders and I guarantee you you will get 52 different answers. Nothing is known for sure right now, one way or another. Wait and see what CAP-USAF and NHQ say, those are the only official sources.

Also there is no such creature as the "ADU". It's ABU - Airman Battle Uniform. This constant misnomer of terms simply shows how pitiful the rumor mill in CAP can be at times.

Airman Battle Uniform? I heard it was: Alternate Dress Uniform..... 

[SarDragon]

do you mean ADU's? Well, than, no. I talked to  Col. Taylor (She's from AZ wing) And she informed me that we are not getting the new uniforms. 

Ask all 52 Wing Commanders and I guarantee you you will get 52 different answers. Nothing is known for sure right now, one way or another. Wait and see what CAP-USAF and NHQ say, those are the only official sources.

Also there is no such creature as the "ADU". It's ABU - Airman Battle Uniform. This constant misnomer of terms simply shows how pitiful the rumor mill in CAP can be at times.

Airman Battle Uniform? I heard it was: Alternate Dress Uniform..... 

No such animal in CAP. Apparently, someone has assigned their own name to some, as yet undetermined, uniform combination. If it isn't in CAPM 39-1, or one of the ICLs, it just doesn't exist as an official CAP uniform.

[Private Investigator]

Can we call it CAPU? Civil Air Patrol Uniform   

[Sgt. Fischer]

Can we call it CAPU? Civil Air Patrol Uniform   

Good idea....  :clap:

[Sgt. Fischer]

do you mean ADU's? Well, than, no. I talked to  Col. Taylor (She's from AZ wing) And she informed me that we are not getting the new uniforms. 

Ask all 52 Wing Commanders and I guarantee you you will get 52 different answers. Nothing is known for sure right now, one way or another. Wait and see what CAP-USAF and NHQ say, those are the only official sources.

Also there is no such creature as the "ADU". It's ABU - Airman Battle Uniform. This constant misnomer of terms simply shows how pitiful the rumor mill in CAP can be at times.

Airman Battle Uniform? I heard it was: Alternate Dress Uniform..... 

No such animal in CAP. Apparently, someone has assigned their own name to some, as yet undetermined, uniform combination. If it isn't in CAPM 39-1, or one of the ICLs, it just doesn't exist as an official CAP uniform.

I just talked to my Brother, (He's a 2nd Lt.) And he said they might be called: ACU's.  He said that stood for: Alternate Combat Uniform... He said there's no such thing as: Airman Battle Uniform, because that type of uniform isn't only for the Air-force....

[Eclipse]

I just talked to my Brother, (He's a 2nd Lt.) And he said they might be called: ACU's.  He said that stood for: Alternate Combat Uniform... He said there's no such thing as: Airman Battle Uniform, because that type of uniform isn't only for the Air-force....

ACU = Army Combat Uniform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform


ABU = Airman Battle Uniform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airman_Battle_Uniform

[Sgt. Fischer]

I just talked to my Brother, (He's a 2nd Lt.) And he said they might be called: ACU's.  He said that stood for: Alternate Combat Uniform... He said there's no such thing as: Airman Battle Uniform, because that type of uniform isn't only for the Air-force....

ACU = Army Combat Uniform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform


ABU = Airman Battle Uniform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airman_Battle_Uniform

Ohhhhh.... I see...

[Sapper168]

Maybe he was talking about the OCP uniform- Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern uniform also known as multicam.  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/MultiCam-trans.jpg

[FlyTiger77]

Ohhhhh.... I see...

And the boonie hat really was one of the few highlights of being deployed. The ACU boonie hat is not typically authorized in CONUS.

[RogueLeader]

Ohhhhh.... I see...

And the boonie hat really was one of the few highlights of being deployed. The ACU boonie hat is not typically authorized in CONUS.

We were never allowed boonies in the boonies. Not counting overseas.

[Sgt. Fischer]

Maybe he was talking about the OCP uniform- Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern uniform also known as multicam.  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/MultiCam-trans.jpg

Yeah.. I think that was it.

[SARDOC]

Maybe he was talking about the OCP uniform- Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern uniform also known as multicam.  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/MultiCam-trans.jpg

I love the boots.  They look like work boots you can buy at walmart.

[SARDOC]

I think the NWU Type III is by far the best.  Only if they didnt incorporate the Anchor and Eagle into the pattern

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=909&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=eAqa0XscRHncvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytrader.com

[Sgt. Fischer]

I think the NWU Type III is by far the best.  Only if they didnt incorporate the Anchor and Eagle into the pattern

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=909&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=eAqa0XscRHncvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytrader.com

Whoa! That's pretty cool!

[Abby.L]

I think the NWU Type III is by far the best.  Only if they didnt incorporate the Anchor and Eagle into the pattern

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=909&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=eAqa0XscRHncvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytrader.com

Whoa! That's pretty cool!

You know what else?

CAP ain't getting any of these. 

[Sgt. Fischer]

I think the NWU Type III is by far the best.  Only if they didnt incorporate the Anchor and Eagle into the pattern

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=909&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=eAqa0XscRHncvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytrader.com

Whoa! That's pretty cool!

You know what else?

CAP ain't getting any of these. 

Darn... That would be pretty awesome if we did! 

[SarDragon]

I think the NWU Type III is by far the best.  Only if they didnt incorporate the Anchor and Eagle into the pattern

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=909&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=eAqa0XscRHncvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytrader.com

Whoa! That's pretty cool!

You know what else?

CAP ain't getting any of these. 

Darn... That would be pretty awesome if we did! 

Whyzat? They have Navy written all over them, and bear little, if any, resemblance to any AF uniform currently or formerly in use. If you think there's a recognition problem now, you ain't see nuttin' yet!

[Sapper168]

You know what else?

CAP ain't getting any of these. 

Did i miss something? I didnt see a message, email, ICL, or any other communication stating this.  The only official word so far i have seen is that there will be no uniform changes until they are all reviewed at summer board in August.  You can see it here...   https://www.capnhq.gov/news/news28Dec11.htm

Reads to me like its pretty open after that. We won't know till then.

[Persona non grata]

I heard from a trucker at a truck stop while passing through Fargo ND that we will be getting maroon and grey digtial BDU'S with the Prop thingy on the pocket.  With red boots so we dont look to military

[Abby.L]

You know what else?

CAP ain't getting any of these. 

Did i miss something? I didnt see a message, email, ICL, or any other communication stating this.  The only official word so far i have seen is that there will be no uniform changes until they are all reviewed at summer board in August.  You can see it here...   https://www.capnhq.gov/news/news28Dec11.htm

Reads to me like its pretty open after that. We won't know till then.

Well, okay. We won't get any of these in the forseeable future. If you really want to read into my comment in such a way, then go for it.

[Persona non grata]

A whle back some one posted a pic of a possible CAP  utlity uniform in OD green in a ACU pattren, pretty nice looking and practical.

[Sgt. Fischer]

I heard from a trucker at a truck stop while passing through Fargo ND that we will be getting maroon and grey digtial BDU'S with the Prop thingy on the pocket.  With red boots so we dont look to military

What? That doesn't make any sense!

[FlyTiger77]

I heard from a trucker at a truck stop while passing through Fargo ND that we will be getting maroon and grey digtial BDU'S with the Prop thingy on the pocket.  With red boots so we dont look to military

And an ANSI orange boonie cap (for Safety!). (I met the same trucker near Sante Fe, NM)

[bflynn]

Can't be too safe, especially in the woods around here.

Hey Daryll, lookie over there...I'd swear that deer is wearing camoflauge...and I think he's carrying a big TV antennae.

Quick Daryll, shoot him 'so we can watch the Dukes of Hazzard....

[Eagle]

Can't be too safe, especially in the woods around here.

Hey Daryll, lookie over there...I'd swear that deer is wearing camoflauge...and I think he's carrying a big TV antennae.

Quick Daryll, shoot him 'so we can watch the Dukes of Hazzard....

+1

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