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Title: Encampment Food
Post by: Dutchboy on February 08, 2006, 06:19:58 PM
I was wondering what was the best food or the worst food that cadets have had at encampment.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: MIKE on February 08, 2006, 06:43:47 PM
Never really had a truly bad meal at encampment.  Food has generally been pretty good.  Maybe it's 'cause we've managed to have military cooks every year I've been.

Have had not as good experiences at other activities though.  Some important things to consider:
- Be conscious of dietary concerns and customs... If you are gonna serve pork, make sure you have another meal choice.
- Have enough variety... So if someone is a picky eater, they won't go hungry.


Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on February 08, 2006, 07:29:46 PM
IL Spring Encampment on Naval Station Great Lakes.

Great chow and all you can eat for about $2 bucks. 

The Navy feeds their people GOOD!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on February 08, 2006, 08:08:04 PM
That's what they want you to believe so they can get you to join!  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Pylon on February 08, 2006, 08:11:13 PM
New York Wing Encampment, circa 1998 or 1999:

The Army mess halls could not accomodate us for all of our meals, therefore the encampment mess ops opted to purchase "Jimmy Dean Meals" which were pre-packaged lunches much in the same concept of an MRE.  Except much, much worse.

Jimmy Dean meals were disgusting.  Each came with a tear-open can of meat paste.  Some were flavored as ham, others as tuna, others as turkey I believe.  But it was a paste.  You were also provided with a "cracker" on which to spread your meat paste.  However, the "cracker" was actually about 1/2" to 3/4" thick and had all the dryness of a cracker but none of the crispiness.  It was essentially a thick brick of sawdust.

The cadets all hated the meals.  One enterprising cadet staff found a beatup golf club somewhere and practiced driving the cans of meat sauce into the wild-blue-yonder.  Some of us found other creative outlets for our meals.

The only redeeming quality of the meals was a fruit cup which usually wasn't too soggy and bitter to enjoy.

NYWG has not used Jimmy Dean meals since, to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: dwb on February 08, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
Mike,

It was the 2000 encampment.  I remember this because that was also the year we ordered McDonald's for the entire encampment for breakfast one morning.  I don't like McDonald's breakfast sandwiches, so I instead ate five (5) apple pies for breakfast.

I haven't had a McDonald's apple pie since.

:)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2006, 08:27:46 PM
Well, I cannot complain much of the food that I've had from encampments.  Volk Field has rather nice accommodations, the only catch was sooner than later the powder for the eggs and the powder for the potatoes mixed, so we ended up with egg flavored potatoes with every meal.

And as the added bonus from the neighbors to the North... I have not personally had them, but rumor has it the Canadian IMPs (Individual Meal Packets) are rather nasty things...
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: footballrun21 on February 08, 2006, 09:17:09 PM
The best was a roast beef wrap and the worst was sausage (it made we sick :()
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Smitty on February 08, 2006, 10:14:19 PM
At the last encampment I primarily stuck to the salad bar.  I really didn't trust most of the other food.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Pylon on February 08, 2006, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: justin_bailey on February 08, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
Mike,

It was the 2000 encampment.  I remember this because that was also the year we ordered McDonald's for the entire encampment for breakfast one morning.  I don't like McDonald's breakfast sandwiches, so I instead ate five (5) apple pies for breakfast.

I haven't had a McDonald's apple pie since.

:)

Heh, I guess it's sufficient to say that -- whether perceived as "good" or "bad" food -- most encampment foods are gastro-intestinal terrorists.   :D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Stephanie Allen on February 09, 2006, 08:57:34 PM
Haha...the food wasn't that bad, but I know now to never eat powdered eggs.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JAFO78 on February 11, 2006, 04:50:44 AM
I went to encampment twice, 1985 & 1986. Both at Grand Forks Air Force Base.
The food was great, we all had enough to eat and no complaints.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Ford73Diesel on February 19, 2006, 12:42:50 AM
At Ohio's encampment we ate really well. French toast in the morning is the best. :P
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ladyreferee on February 20, 2006, 02:09:47 AM
At Ohio's encampment we ate really good

Oh dear!  Good  is always an adjective, while well is an adverb that tells how something is done.  When you are representing CAP it is always proper to speak correctly - you would say 'we ate really well'.  This is a reflection on our sinking culture - please don't sink with it  ;)  You are a Civil Air Patrol Cadet!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Ford73Diesel on February 20, 2006, 04:53:47 AM
Quote from: ladyreferee on February 20, 2006, 02:09:47 AM
At Ohio's encampment we ate really good

Oh dear!  Good  is always an adjective, while well is an adverb that tells how something is done.  When you are representing CAP it is always proper to speak correctly - you would say 'we ate really well'.  This is a reflection on our sinking culture - please don't sink with it  ;)  You are a Civil Air Patrol Cadet!


Sorry Ma'am, I fixed it. Grammar was never really my strong point.....
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ladyreferee on February 21, 2006, 02:45:25 AM
Not to worry!  Hopefully, others will have noticed their own use and will correct as well ;D
Have a great day  ;)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: michigansergeant on March 15, 2006, 08:17:31 PM
Hmmm.. I remember having some really good chicken cordon bleu (however you spell it) it the MI wing encampment, I really liked that.  I guess I would probably try to stick with familiar foods (mac & cheese, meatloaf, etc.) and stay away from the "mystery casseroles", if you know what I mean...
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on March 15, 2006, 08:21:54 PM
Quote from: michigansergeant on March 15, 2006, 08:17:31 PM
Hmmm.. I remember having some really good chicken cordon bleu (however you spell it) it the MI wing encampment, I really liked that.  I guess I would probably try to stick with familiar foods (mac & cheese, meatloaf, etc.) and stay away from the "mystery casseroles", if you know what I mean...

But half the fun of the mystery meats was guessing the menu card number, and the real identity of the meat. "Is it mystery meat #17, beef?"
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on March 19, 2006, 06:07:42 AM
Quote from: michigansergeant on March 15, 2006, 08:17:31 PM
Hmmm.. I remember having some really good chicken cordon bleu (however you spell it)...

Or as Air Force Academy cadets call 'em,  'hamsters' or 'fried hamsters'.

<-- ex Air Force cook - DEATH FROM WITHIN!  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Mullins on June 01, 2009, 02:07:43 AM
Mass. wing 08-

Food was sooooo good!
All thanks to Lt Frisbe
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Ford73Diesel on June 01, 2009, 02:43:37 AM
Wow talk about a bump........
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Polecat on June 01, 2009, 02:52:31 AM
Quote from: messofficer on February 08, 2006, 06:19:58 PM
I was wondering what was the best food or the worst food that cadets have had at encampment.

Since the mega bump happened I will add my two pennys.

All the food you made at DH6 was really good except for the SOS and the chinese chicken. No offense but the chinese chicken was not a favorite of anyone in my flight. The enchaladas were by far the best.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ZigZag911 on June 01, 2009, 03:43:28 AM
Back in the 80s NJW had it's own field mess, run by a squadron CC who had been an Army cook....most of the meals were pretty good. His primary helpers were his Group CC & the wing CV...which raised some interesting expressions for when personnel from McGuire AFB and Fort Dix dropped by for coffee and found three lt cols running a field kitchen!

Speaking of Ft Dix, back WIWAC in the 70s the food there was pretty grim, which has been my general experience: Army food has always been a notch below AF or Navy....hopefully that's improved, my last Army chow was at in encampment 7 or 8 years ago.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on June 01, 2009, 04:35:47 AM
Gotta throw a BZ out there to the folks at Alpena. The chow there was very good at GLR/MIWG 2008.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Mullins on June 01, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on June 01, 2009, 03:43:28 AMSpeaking of Ft Dix, back WIWAC in the 70s the food there was pretty grim, which has been my general experience: Army food has always been a notch below AF or Navy....hopefully that's improved, my last Army chow was at in encampment 7 or 8 years ago.

Well, it has improved!  Last time I went to Ft. Dix the food was great.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Ozzy on June 01, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: Mullins on June 01, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on June 01, 2009, 03:43:28 AMSpeaking of Ft Dix, back WIWAC in the 70s the food there was pretty grim, which has been my general experience: Army food has always been a notch below AF or Navy....hopefully that's improved, my last Army chow was at in encampment 7 or 8 years ago.

Well, it has improved!  Last time I went to Ft. Dix the food was great.

haha, last time I went to Ft. Dix for a CAP event, AirShow 07, there was barely enough food to go around. I was only a C/A1c but ended up ordering chinese food for my room (having taking orders and money beforehand AND reassuring the delivery person this was not a prank). I was surprised that they actually delivered it to the barracks correctly and as all chinese food is, it was goooooood.  :clap:

Anyways in regards to encampment food, NYWg for the past few years has several Air Force cooks to help us out plus four-five cadets with other Mess ops related tasks. The food has always been good with plenty to eat, enough variety for those picky eaters, as well as depending on your dietary ideals (vegetarianism, Islamic, etc.) we might cook to order or find someway to feed you. Best meal, like always was for breakfast; French toast  :D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: notaNCO forever on June 01, 2009, 06:50:04 PM
 At CTWG encampments we have a non military cook; the food their is better than any other CAP activity I have been to.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on June 01, 2009, 07:44:33 PM
'Bubblehead' (submariner) cooks usually have the reputation as being the best in the Navy... a bad cook usually becomes chum for the fish!  >:D

Military chow has improved greatly over the past few years; many mid-level enlisted cooks are being sent to courses at the prestigious Culinary Institute of America to polish their skills.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: EMT-83 on June 02, 2009, 12:51:36 AM
Quote from: Ozzy on June 01, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
haha, last time I went to Ft. Dix for a CAP event, AirShow 07, there was barely enough food to go around. I was only a C/A1c but ended up ordering chinese food for my room (having taking orders and money beforehand AND reassuring the delivery person this was not a prank). I was surprised that they actually delivered it to the barracks correctly and as all chinese food is, it was goooooood.

There was a lot of Chinese food delivered that weekend! Our cadets still talk about it.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Slim on June 11, 2009, 04:31:37 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 01, 2009, 04:35:47 AM
Gotta throw a BZ out there to the folks at Alpena. The chow there was very good at GLR/MIWG 2008.

For what we pay them, it better be.

37 and a kit bag drag until I'm back home!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SAR-EMT1 on June 11, 2009, 05:09:36 AM
Best food ever at a CAP event:

Catered brunch for a UCC in Springfield, IL. It was a delicious breakfast casserole containing everything from eggs to french toast to cheesy hash browns all smothered with maple syrup.
I still think about it fondly.

Best food at a DIFAC - - By FAR, the "Breeze" at Eglin AFB, Florida. Ate there every day while I did my ROTC summer tour. (And partied in Destin every weekend)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ol'fido on June 12, 2009, 01:27:37 AM
The food at the Illinois Summer Encampment has been pretty good for the last few years since we started doing our own cooking. The chefs are dedicated and talented. The absolute worst year was our first year at Marseilles Training Center when we used a local caterer. We were overcharged and they were in over their heads.

As a cadet at Volk in the 80s I do remember a few episodes of eggs served in a non-traditional color such as green and blue.

Of course, after being served T-rat Corned Beef Hash for 35 straight days in Thailand during Cobra Gold '89, it makes every breakfast seem like a feast.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on June 25, 2009, 09:27:38 PM
Critique of the chow at the Texas Wing Encampment:

Little variety, especially at breakfast. You can only eat so much gravel granola, bagels with peanut butter and jelly. Most of the TACs rebelled and went over the fence to a local greasy spoon in the nearby town of Gladewater later during the week. Big hot button issue with the hosts and the senior encampment staff, and I heard enough grumblings from the dinks over the quality and quantity of food.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: LtCol057 on June 28, 2009, 12:49:52 AM
I've attended encampments at several different bases, including MCAS Cherry Point, Ft Bragg/Pope AFB, Shaw AFB, and attended NBB.  Also was stationed at Ft Leonard Wood, MO and Ft Sam Houston, TX when I was AD.  The best food to me has been at MCAS Cherry Point.  The Marines seem to take better care of us than our own parent service.  Can't really give an evaluation of the food at Leonard Wood, didn't have time to taste it, just shovel it in and taste it later.  Just my opinion tho.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on June 28, 2009, 03:05:44 PM
IMNSHO this is how I rack and stack service chow:

Navy/Marines
Air Force
Army

I've never eaten at a Coastie mess, but I would figure they would be on par with the Squiddies...  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on June 28, 2009, 07:36:31 PM
In my experience, Navy chow seems to be the most variable of the bunch. I've had really outstanding meals at one base, and really horrid at another. This is not just a one or two meal thing, it's over a period of time (> a week).

</drift>
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on June 28, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 28, 2009, 07:36:31 PM
In my experience, Navy chow seems to be the most variable of the bunch. I've had really outstanding meals at one base, and really horrid at another. This is not just a one or two meal thing, it's over a period of time (> a week).

</drift>

Though for some weird reason, Mid-Rats is usually pretty good no matter which base you're at.

Go figure! ::)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: MIKE on June 28, 2009, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on June 28, 2009, 03:05:44 PM
I've never eaten at a Coastie mess, but I would figure they would be on par with the Squiddies...  ;D

AIRSTA Cape Cod had pretty good eats.  Ate there as part of the MAWG Encampment staff a few times.  We ate there because the ANG cooks weren't starting until Day 1 of encampment proper.

My preference thus far though for Coastie messing facilities is the Seafood Sam's which is across the parking lot from STA Cape Cod Canal.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PA Guy on June 28, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
I eat at a CG AirSta mess several days a month and while it is OK it isn't anything to write home about.  For the most part the  AF wins when it comes to food in my experience.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ol'fido on June 28, 2009, 11:22:33 PM
Best chow hall food I ever had was at the Hickam AFB Open Mess. However, for special holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas, the chow halls at Schofield would serve lobster tails, all you could eat!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: C/Ssgt Mailloux on August 05, 2009, 02:35:53 PM
Florida wing encampment 09 summer.

Great Food!
Not much time to eat, but still...

best was 3 pancakes, 2 strips of bacon and eggs for breakfast.

Then again were catered for all of our meals. Country caterers.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Airrace on August 05, 2009, 02:55:42 PM
Hands down would have to be any encampment on a Navy base or Coast Guard station.


Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: swamprat86 on August 05, 2009, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: ZigZag911 on June 01, 2009, 03:43:28 AM
Back in the 80s NJW had it's own field mess, run by a squadron CC who had been an Army cook....most of the meals were pretty good. His primary helpers were his Group CC & the wing CV...which raised some interesting expressions for when personnel from McGuire AFB and Fort Dix dropped by for coffee and found three lt cols running a field kitchen!

Ah, the Group 221 Field Mess - "Death from Within".  I do miss those meals, especially SOS Wednesday.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
2004 FLWG summer encampment at Camp Blanding was the worst food I tasted at a encampment.  I loved being Commandant of Cadets because I was able to break away and go get BK.  I did not eat it in front of the cadets.  My truck was a mess.  The best food I ate was at MGHEE TYSON ANG BASE while attending RSC.  I am going to NSC at Maxwell amd I hope the fod is good.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on August 05, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
2004 FLWG summer encampment at Camp Blanding was the worst food I tasted at a encampment.  I loved being Commandant of Cadets because I was able to break away and go get BK. 

There is so much wrong with that sentence I don't know where to start.

As Commandant, the cadet experience is basically your #1, and only, job - if the food was bad, you should have been taking steps to correct it, but regardless, sneaking off to get your own is not cricket.

If it's good enough for the cadets, it's good enough for all the staff.  If its not, no one should be eating it.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Rotorhead on August 05, 2009, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
2004 FLWG summer encampment at Camp Blanding was the worst food I tasted at a encampment.  I loved being Commandant of Cadets because I was able to break away and go get BK. 

There is so much wrong with that sentence I don't know where to start.

As Commandant, the cadet experience is basically your #1, and only, job - if the food was bad, you should have been taking steps to correct it, but regardless, sneaking off to get your own is not cricket.

If it's good enough for the cadets, it's good enough for all the staff.  If its not, no one should be eating it.

I have to agree--what are you doing allowing food you wouldn't eat to be served to your cadets?


Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Strick on August 05, 2009, 07:23:10 PM
Because I CHUCKED up a few times eating it!.  It was full of grease   I complained to the Encampment commander, however he basicaly said deal with it.  I  In my situation I cant afford not to skip meals so my health and safety is number 1.  The medication I take requires food I am no good to any person if I am in the ICU :(.   
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: BrianH76 on August 05, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
For the 2009 TNWG Encampment, cadets and staff ate at the dining facility for the Replacement Company at Fort Campbell, KY.  It was absolutely outstanding and the staff were terrific. 

The dining facility was small and looked a little worn, but the food was great. 
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: addo1 on August 05, 2009, 07:32:44 PM
My basic encampment in 2007 had outstanding food. The most recent one though... not so much. That would be the difference of "home cooked" and "yearly cooked."
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Strick on August 05, 2009, 07:40:34 PM
I wonder how many wings provide the cooks at encampment?.  I know in the past that FLWG had to provide the cooks due to the guard base not having mess staff present.  That the only down side to guard bases.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: addo1 on August 05, 2009, 07:43:17 PM
My basic in 2007 was at Camp Swift in Bastrop, TX. We provided the cooks and the food was MUCH better than it was at my last one using their staff. Sorta funny how that works.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: CAPC/officer125 on August 05, 2009, 07:50:16 PM
I don't think I have had bad food at an encampment. The best I have had was at the dining out we had at the end of NCRE2007. We had prime rib for that and it was great. The food that entire week was great. Another good meal was the graduation dinner at COS this year. That was really good (especially the ranch). What surprised me is that they didn't serve sweet tea at this meal. And we were down south.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: notaNCO forever on August 05, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
Quote from: C/Command125 on August 05, 2009, 07:50:16 PM
I don't think I have had bad food at an encampment. The best I have had was at the dining out we had at the end of NCRE2007. We had prime rib for that and it was great. The food that entire week was great. Another good meal was the graduation dinner at COS this year. That was really good (especially the ranch). What surprised me is that they didn't serve sweet tea at this meal. And we were down south.

You didn't have sweet tee at your table? Mine did, at least the second time, the first pitcher wasn't sweetened but the second one was at my table. I have to agree the dinner was good. The food through the week was decent to.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: BillB on August 05, 2009, 09:11:13 PM
The 2004 Florida Wing Encampment had food trucked over from the Main Dining facility. But the food at the facility iyself was much better than served to CAP.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Dad2-4 on August 24, 2009, 07:51:06 AM
If I remember correctly, 2003 TXWG Winter Encampment at Fort Bullis, TX. MREs for most lunches, and running out of food more than once for breakfast and/or dinner, meaning SM staff having to eat what they could scrounge up for us. PPPPPP, IMHO.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on August 25, 2009, 01:21:46 AM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 07:40:34 PM
I wonder how many wings provide the cooks at encampment?.  I know in the past that FLWG had to provide the cooks due to the guard base not having mess staff present.  That the only down side to guard bases.

California Wing provides their own cooks every year, what's the problem?

And we use a Guard Base - Camp San Luis Obispo, California.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Gunner C on August 25, 2009, 04:21:00 AM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
I am going to NSC at Maxwell amd I hope the fod is good.
Man!  NSC is getting tough!  You guys have to eat FOD?  I always hated FOD walks, and now it's combined with breakfast?  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on August 25, 2009, 05:08:00 AM
Quote from: Gunner C on August 25, 2009, 04:21:00 AM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
I am going to NSC at Maxwell amd I hope the fod is good.
Man!  NSC is getting tough!  You guys have to eat FOD?  I always hated FOD walks, and now it's combined with breakfast?  ;D


Fiber man, you gotta get your fiber!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Chappie on August 25, 2009, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: Strick on August 05, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
I am going to NSC at Maxwell amd I hope the fod is good.

The River Front Inn is where most students eat during the week....typical base menu/prices.   The Officers Club is down the street and around the corner from billeting...the Golf Course does have a nice breakfast/sandwiches.  If you have transportation, there is a food court in the base mall.  A bit of a hike from the classrooms/billeting.  On Saturday evening, you will go off base with your seminar group for a dinner.  A fun way to get better acquianted.  There is a social on Sunday evening -- usually sandwiches.  On either Tuesday or Wednesday evening there is social at Hooper's Lodge.  Then on Friday evening, there is the banquet.  Of course, there's the shoppette and, if you have military id or know someone, there is the commissary to purchase food and keep in your room.  Every room has a fridge/micro.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: C/MSgt. White on October 15, 2009, 09:15:58 PM
Every meal from Cascade Falcon 14 (WAWG Summer Encampment) was an amazing one. Particularly the Evergreen dining facility in McChord AFB but I remember looking forward every day to 2 pieces of toast with butter and jam. it helped the sore throat. :)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on October 15, 2009, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: C/MSgt. White on October 15, 2009, 09:15:58 PM
Every meal from Cascade Falcon 14 (WAWG Summer Encampment) was an amazing one. Particularly the Evergreen dining facility in McChord AFB but I remember looking forward every day to 2 pieces of toast with butter and jam. it helped the sore throat. :)

Nothing better than pieces of burnt bread grinding past your inflamed throat!  That is what I always use to get rid of a sore throat.   :D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: C/MSgt. White on October 16, 2009, 03:34:27 PM
Surprisingly it wasn't burnt. Nice & Golden :)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JROB on October 21, 2009, 10:06:28 AM
For the Tennessee Wing Encampment we were at Ft. Campbell, KY the first DFAC we ate at had everyone wanting to throw up.  The one we ate ate for the rest of the week was great.

1st: Run by active army
2nd: Run by civilians (Replacement Battalion)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: RicL on November 01, 2009, 03:29:45 AM
I've never had really bad encampment food at either of the (2001,2002) NYWG encampments that I attended, but both years we staffed our own chow hall with CAP personnel. Granted, it was somewhat off-putting to walk into the mess hall and see the black banner on the wall put up by mess ops that read "Kill 'em All, Let God Sort 'em Out".

Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on November 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 05, 2009, 07:43:17 PM
My basic in 2007 was at Camp Swift in Bastrop, TX. We provided the cooks and the food was MUCH better than it was at my last one using their staff. Sorta funny how that works.

Capt Joe Kaplor was the mess officer for the 2007 winter encampment - his chow is well renowned. ALERT Academy supplied the chow for the past couple of TX Wing encampments.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: addo1 on December 12, 2009, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on November 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: addo1 on August 05, 2009, 07:43:17 PM
My basic in 2007 was at Camp Swift in Bastrop, TX. We provided the cooks and the food was MUCH better than it was at my last one using their staff. Sorta funny how that works.

Capt Joe Kaplor was the mess officer for the 2007 winter encampment - his chow is well renowned. ALERT Academy supplied the chow for the past couple of TX Wing encampments.

I remember that.... That was some good grub that he fixed... Alert food on the other hand.... lol
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: High Speed Low Drag on December 13, 2009, 04:41:21 AM
The food at Grand Forks AFB in ’83 was good – that’s where I fell in love with ham & cheese omelets.  Really didn’t have any bad food at any encampments (all I went to were on AFBs).  Best food ever was the Missouri Wing Conference in ’88 – Ramada Inn in Jefferson City. (Although this year’s Arkansas Wing Conference was good as well.)

Encampment lunches this year were not the best – “in-flight lunches” consisting of a dry sandwich, water, chips, and some form of fruit. 

The absolute worst food I ever ate was at National Special Service Corps (Blue Beret) in 1985 – the year of the Great Flood.  At Oshkosh, we were living in individual tents in a small grassy area by a latrine building.  It rained so hard that I had water coming through the tent walls.  The mess was a old, old open-fly mess tent, right next to the latrine building.  After the rain, you slogged through the mud in the tent, get your paper plate of food, and trudge back out into the rain.  I don’t remember who was cooking, but most of my money that year went to buying snacks.  Several times I’d get my food, eat a bite, and discard the rest.  Excuse me while the memory sends me back to the latrine.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Cmdbuddy on February 01, 2010, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 08, 2006, 07:29:46 PM
IL Spring Encampment on Naval Station Great Lakes.

Great chow and all you can eat for about $2 bucks. 

The Navy feeds their people GOOD!

They certainly lose money on a lot of CAP people if that's the case  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: hellfire40 on February 04, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
i have heard some stories that the food has no taste and that you should save the tabasco sauce. is this true?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JayT on February 04, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: hellfire40 on February 04, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
i have heard some stories that the food has no taste and that you should save the tabasco sauce. is this true?

You're thinking of MRE's.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: RogueLeader on February 04, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
and it depends on the mre
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: raivo on February 05, 2010, 06:51:36 AM
Beef ravioli. :drool:
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on February 05, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
^ Country Captain Chicken circa 2001.  Worst MRE ever. 
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: RogueLeader on February 05, 2010, 05:26:23 PM
^ worse than the Vegiterian Cheese and egg omlete?   ??? ??? :o :'( :'(
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on February 05, 2010, 05:56:24 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on February 05, 2010, 05:26:23 PM
^ worse than the Vegetarian Cheese and egg omlete?   ??? ??? :o :'( :'(

Unless your a vegetarian, than it probably is worse than Country Captain Chicken.

I attended an encampment where all food was served from MRE trays, the kind that feeds entire units.  That was rather disgusting.  Hard MRE Bread, butter from a squeeze tube, powdered orange drink (with added vitamins and minerals!).  However, Encampment was only $35.00.  So you really do get what you pay for.

I am guessing much of Encampment cost is for food these days. 
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: RogueLeader on February 05, 2010, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 05, 2010, 05:56:24 PM

I am guessing much of Encampment cost is for food these days.

Thats one of the two of CCOCs big costs, are.  The other is the Verticle wind tunnel time.  Its a sweet timw, let me tell you.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Cmdbuddy on February 06, 2010, 03:39:49 AM
Here's the rule with MRE's: the shorter the name, the better.  When you get to 4-5 word descriptions, don't do it.

For example, the beef stew is phenomenal (in terms of MRE's).  Ham steak with scrambled eggs is not. 
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on February 06, 2010, 04:38:48 PM
^ and stay away from any powered milk drinks (milkshakes etc.).  They are (were) tainted with salmonella and ecolli (no idea how, unless made from meat by-products).

Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: cadet zimmerman on February 07, 2010, 02:31:23 AM
CAWG 2009-

    The egg quiche, 90% water 5% egg 5% Cheese
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: TACP on February 07, 2010, 03:19:17 AM
WHAT?! The milkshakes are the best, any disease concerns aside. Pour the powder in a drink bag with the hot chocolate and coffee, add just enough water to make it into a pudding, and it's enough to keep you going all day.

Besides that the chicken meals are always great, usually come with decent snacks too.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on February 07, 2010, 04:27:23 AM
"Yankee bean soup, cole slaw, and tuna surprise."
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on February 07, 2010, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 07, 2010, 04:27:23 AM
"Yankee bean soup, cole slaw, and tuna surprise."

What was the "surprise".....no tuna in it??   ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: hellfire40 on February 08, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: JThemann on February 04, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: hellfire40 on February 04, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
i have heard some stories that the food has no taste and that you should save the tabasco sauce. is this true?

You're thinking of MRE's.

oh thats right lol my bad
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: captmorgan on March 04, 2010, 02:59:29 AM
The worst we have had was breakfast pizza the entire week!! Every breakfast.

Breakfast pizza: Soggy dough patty with nasty cheese topped with sausage looking stuff....

And don't feed cadets milk at encampment EVER!! Unless you want very sick cadets all week..
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on March 04, 2010, 04:57:41 AM
Quote from: captmorgan on March 04, 2010, 02:59:29 AM
The worst we have had was breakfast pizza the entire week!! Every breakfast.

Breakfast pizza: Soggy dough patty with nasty cheese topped with sausage looking stuff....

And don't feed cadets milk at encampment EVER!! Unless you want very sick cadets all week..

We've had milk at every encampment I've been to (25+), and have never had any problems with anyone getting sick.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spike on March 04, 2010, 04:20:27 PM
^ What happens is that should a person drink a large amount of milk and then do strenuous activity in a hot environment the milk will become angry and cause your stomach to ache. 

I think it may be a "myth", but have heard and seen milk being off limits to military members some places.  I am no Doctor, so I really do not know the true reasons behind it.  Just my assumptions. 

Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: EMT-83 on March 04, 2010, 06:10:45 PM
Eat or drink excessive amounts of anything before that type of activity and the results would probably be the same.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: V. Basile on April 21, 2010, 02:44:05 AM
I didn't really have bad food at my encampment.  Whenever we went to McChord AFB, we always at the diner. (:D).   I think the worst meal we had was grilled cheese sandwiches and tomato soup.  Yuck!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Raja1020 on May 24, 2010, 01:20:02 PM
Id hate to be a "wet blanket" or atleast i  think i am, but for religious reasons i cant eat pork, is there any other options usually?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JayT on May 24, 2010, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cadet Shawn Bhatti on May 24, 2010, 01:20:02 PM
Id hate to be a "wet blanket" or atleast i  think i am, but for religious reasons i cant eat pork, is there any other options usually?

Yeah, just make it known on your application.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Raja1020 on May 24, 2010, 01:42:02 PM
Thanks I'll make sure it's on there.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on May 25, 2010, 03:11:46 AM
Pork is an easy one to handle.
We've had a cadet who could not eat wheat or wheat products, that one kept the Mess Officer busy. But it was handled.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: davidsinn on May 27, 2010, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!

Only on a Navy installation. Army food sucks. Never had AF food.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on May 28, 2010, 02:24:37 AM
You killed it.
AF food is pretty good, they let us have as much as we want and we got chips, cake, and milk. 8)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Fly Boy on June 01, 2010, 08:09:42 PM
^^^^
The encampment I went to was on an Army base and had catering.  >:D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on June 02, 2010, 02:13:54 AM
Lucky.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: GTM SGT Frazier on November 14, 2010, 01:19:05 AM
At my encampment the last meal we had was a BBQ but they left the food in to long and every thing was black and almost inedible. The corn had the flavor of charcoal and looked it.

GTM Sgt Frazier
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Pylon on November 14, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!


...A roll fell off the table, and killed a friend of mine.   ;)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on November 14, 2010, 03:30:50 AM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!


...A roll fell off the table, and killed a friend of mine.   ;)
Yes, somebody got it!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: FlyTiger77 on November 14, 2010, 03:32:55 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on November 14, 2010, 03:30:50 AM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!


...A roll fell off the table, and killed a friend of mine.   ;)
Yes, somebody got it!
A chicken jumped off the table and started marking time!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Spaceman3750 on November 14, 2010, 03:42:36 AM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!


...A roll fell off the table, and killed a friend of mine.   ;)

Oh yeah... My chicken jumped off the table and started marking time >:D.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: GTCommando on November 17, 2010, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on November 14, 2010, 03:42:36 AM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on May 27, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
They say that at encampment, the food's mighty fine!


...A roll fell off the table, and killed a friend of mine.   ;)

Oh yeah... My chicken jumped off the table and started marking time >:D.

They say that at encampment, the meat is mighty fine...last night we had ten puppies, this mornin' only nine.  ;)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: GTM SGT Frazier on November 28, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
The beds are mighty fine, how the heck should i know ive never slept in mine.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Cool Mace on December 20, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
Quote from: captmorgan on March 04, 2010, 02:59:29 AM
The worst we have had was breakfast pizza the entire week!! Every breakfast.

Breakfast pizza: Soggy dough patty with nasty cheese topped with sausage looking stuff....
(BUMP?)

I loved the breaskfest pizza! That's the only thing I look forward to at encampment anymore...
Ok not really. But I don't mind that stuff.

I've never had bad food at encampments. Guess I've just been lucky in the past 10 years?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: mclarke on April 25, 2011, 02:27:54 AM
Quote from: GTM SGT Frazier on November 28, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
The beds are mighty fine, how the heck should i know ive never slept in mine.

They say that the toilets are mighty fine. You flush em down at 7 and they come back up at 9.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: CadetHarry on July 09, 2011, 02:29:06 AM
Ahhhhh Tri Wing Encampment 2011 I seem to actually miss the chow even though it was disgusting I miss the line into chow with the Chief screaming at us "90 degrees why are you looking around!!!!!"
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: CadetHarry on July 09, 2011, 02:31:02 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 04, 2010, 04:20:27 PM
^ What happens is that should a person drink a large amount of milk and then do strenuous activity in a hot environment the milk will become angry and cause your stomach to ache. 

I think it may be a "myth", but have heard and seen milk being off limits to military members some places.  I am no Doctor, so I really do not know the true reasons behind it.  Just my assumptions.


Medically it is the combination of Milk and Meat with a lil heat is what upsets the stomach
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on July 09, 2011, 03:22:07 AM
Excessive consumption of dairy is also an issue.

There's a 79 in my wing that involves finding a cadet in the bathroom vomiting and sick.  After an evening of re-hydration and
similar treatment for an upset stomach, it was discovered that he had consumed what was described as "a significant quantity of cottage cheese"...

It is superficially funny, but also a failure of his flight staff as apparently no one was monitoring what he was eating.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on July 09, 2011, 03:28:22 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...

Heh - which probably contained neither cream nor beef.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Hawk_Girl on July 09, 2011, 03:32:12 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...

Creamed beef? or Corned beef?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on July 09, 2011, 03:32:28 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 09, 2011, 03:28:22 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...

Heh - which probably contained neither cream nor beef.

And your vast military experience tells you this?

Small newsflash for ya, there are some really good cooks in the military.  And making "good" SOS is almost an art that is mastered by few.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JC004 on July 09, 2011, 04:22:00 AM
Quote from: Hawk_Girl on July 09, 2011, 03:32:12 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...

Creamed beef? or Corned beef?

Creamed beef as in creamed chipped beef...yes.  Had plenty of that on dry/hard toast, etc.   :-\
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Hawk_Girl on July 09, 2011, 04:28:06 AM
Quote from: JC004 on July 09, 2011, 04:22:00 AM
Quote from: Hawk_Girl on July 09, 2011, 03:32:12 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 09, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
I'm not so sure about that, the military has served tons of creamed beef in one form or another...

Creamed beef? or Corned beef?

Creamed beef as in creamed chipped beef...yes.  Had plenty of that on dry/hard toast, etc.   :-\

Sounds..... Interesting. I can honestly say that I have never eaten that.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JC004 on July 09, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
It's good and pretty widely available, although probably most common in the east.  I have also seen it in bags at grocery stores - in the section that has the precooked refrigerated foods like pre-made macaroni and cheese or mashed potatoes - usually more near the breakfast things.  It is also available frozen.  It is good on toast or fried potatoes.  Also helps with dry toast that has been sitting on a warmer at your military food facility for a while.  I've seen it served on biscuits at military facilities.  Never had that elsewhere, but I guess an alternative to biscuits and gravy.  That's basically what it is, but has beef in it.

edit: I just found this.  It's an army recipe dating to 1910 for it:   http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Chipped_beef_on_toast
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on July 09, 2011, 04:04:32 PM
SOS on toasted English Muffins is a nice change. And it's pretty good too!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on July 09, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
When I was on AD, a lot of SOS was made using hamburger instead of creamed Chipped beef.  In fact, I don't think that I ever had SOS in the Army that wasn't made with hamburger: I have made it at home with the creamed chipped variety.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ol'fido on July 09, 2011, 09:59:27 PM
I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but nothing turns the stomach like 35 straight days of T-Rat Corned Beef Hash for breakfast(Cobra Gold '89, Phitsanoluk, Thailand).
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
The SOS recipe I made when I was a cook in the Air Force (DEATH FROM WITHIN!!!) had ground beef as one of the ingredients. Really easy to make; make up the roux (flour and butter), then add milk, ground beef, salt and pepper to taste. Cook until thickened and serve on biscuits, toast or on everything. If you prefer chipped beef instead of ground, you can add chopped dried beef.

Unfortunately, the SOS served at the PDR (Pacific Dining Room, the chow hall here on Kwaj) sucks.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on July 10, 2011, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
The SOS recipe I made when I was a cook in the Air Force (DEATH FROM WITHIN!!!) had ground beef as one of the ingredients. Really easy to make; make up the roux (flour and butter), then add milk, ground beef, salt and pepper to taste. Cook until thickened and serve on biscuits, toast or on everything. If you prefer chipped beef instead of ground, you can add chopped dried beef.

Unfortunately, the SOS served at the PDR (Pacific Dining Room, the chow hall here on Kwaj) sucks.

Sounds like you need to have a conversation with the contractor doing the cooking. A cooking class maybe?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: PHall on July 10, 2011, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
The SOS recipe I made when I was a cook in the Air Force (DEATH FROM WITHIN!!!) had ground beef as one of the ingredients. Really easy to make; make up the roux (flour and butter), then add milk, ground beef, salt and pepper to taste. Cook until thickened and serve on biscuits, toast or on everything. If you prefer chipped beef instead of ground, you can add chopped dried beef.

Unfortunately, the SOS served at the PDR (Pacific Dining Room, the chow hall here on Kwaj) sucks.

Sounds like you need to have a conversation with the contractor doing the cooking. A cooking class maybe?

Even though I'm a member of the dining hall advisory committee, the contractor (and the Army) doesn't have money in the budget. Most of the cooking staff is Marshallese and their work ethic (except for a few) is 'Ainokea' (Hawaiian pidgin for 'I don't care'). Food quality isn't the world's greatest (and our supply lines are long and easily broken) but when the cooks overcook/undercook/overseason food it affects the overall quality of the meal. Not to mention the occasional bout of the 'PDR purge' - 30 minutes after a delicious meal in our fine dining establishment you'll be racing to the nearest restroom!
I retired my apron and chef's hat years ago for a career as a design drafter. Still cook for friends and family, and the occasional company barbecue.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: jks19714 on July 10, 2011, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: PHall on July 10, 2011, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
The SOS recipe I made when I was a cook in the Air Force (DEATH FROM WITHIN!!!) had ground beef as one of the ingredients. Really easy to make; make up the roux (flour and butter), then add milk, ground beef, salt and pepper to taste. Cook until thickened and serve on biscuits, toast or on everything. If you prefer chipped beef instead of ground, you can add chopped dried beef.

Unfortunately, the SOS served at the PDR (Pacific Dining Room, the chow hall here on Kwaj) sucks.

Sounds like you need to have a conversation with the contractor doing the cooking. A cooking class maybe?

Even though I'm a member of the dining hall advisory committee, the contractor (and the Army) doesn't have money in the budget. Most of the cooking staff is Marshallese and their work ethic (except for a few) is 'Ainokea' (Hawaiian pidgin for 'I don't care'). Food quality isn't the world's greatest (and our supply lines are long and easily broken) but when the cooks overcook/undercook/overseason food it affects the overall quality of the meal. Not to mention the occasional bout of the 'PDR purge' - 30 minutes after a delicious meal in our fine dining establishment you'll be racing to the nearest restroom!
I retired my apron and chef's hat years ago for a career as a design drafter. Still cook for friends and family, and the occasional company barbecue.

You should have joined the Navy.  ;D  I gained weight (I was a DoD civil servant at the time) on every cruise.  Course it might have also been because it was 100% "scope dope" the entire time (at least 16 hours a day).  I got disabused of the idea of taking a walk on the flight deck on the first day.  Jet engines are not your friend.  But we did eat good (Chief's mess was the bees knees).

I went to Kwaj one time many years ago and I found that living in a sauna was not for me or for anything electronic.  Hats off to the folks that keep those radars working! 

Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on July 11, 2011, 02:56:33 AM
Chuck, I know exactly what your situation is. I flew the "Coral Run" in the C-141's out of Norton and then March for over 10 years.
I've probably hauled about 2 or 3 thousand tons of produce out there.

And only had to spend the night only 3 times...   Pays to be resourceful when you're a Flight Engineer when you're out in the boonies.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on July 11, 2011, 05:08:09 AM
Could be something to the thought that the weather and environment are some of the reasons that Kwaj is the target for the ICBMs and not the launch site.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on July 11, 2011, 07:37:26 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on July 11, 2011, 05:08:09 AM
Could be something to the thought that the weather and environment are some of the reasons that Kwaj is the target for the ICBMs and not the launch site.

ROFL! We're actually 4842 miles to the southwest of 'Vandy-land' at the far end of the Pacific Missile Range. It may be out in the middle of nowhere but it is 'the world's largest catcher's mitt' (the atoll lagoon is the largest in the world, and averages a depth of about 200-300 feet). We do conduct missile defense tests from one of the other islands in the atoll (Meck). For security reasons I can't go much more into the specifics on how the tests are conducted.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: davidsinn on July 11, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 11, 2011, 07:37:26 AM
For security reasons I can't go much more into the specifics on how the tests are conducted.

I'm going to guess a long fuse, big lighter and an Earth shattering kaboom?  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AlphaSigOU on July 11, 2011, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on July 11, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on July 11, 2011, 07:37:26 AM
For security reasons I can't go much more into the specifics on how the tests are conducted.

I'm going to guess a long fuse, big lighter and an Earth shattering kaboom?  ;D

Nahhhh... above-ground nuke tests haven't been conducted in the Marshall Islands since the late 1950s. We do have to test the ICBMs once in a while to make sure they perform as advertised.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: CamoMan on August 13, 2011, 04:29:50 AM
At Florida Wing Encampment this year we had a restaurant from Ocala that catered the food was fairly good.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on August 13, 2011, 05:42:33 AM
Quote from: CamoMan on August 13, 2011, 04:29:50 AM
At Florida Wing Encampment this year we had a restaurant from Ocala that catered the food was fairly good.

Beans were their specialty though. Beans, grits and meat.  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: BillB on August 13, 2011, 06:09:25 AM
This catering company traveled 140 miles each day to provide meals? (70 miles each way to Blanding) Different trip for each meal? That's a potful of traveling and expense.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on August 25, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
Folks-

After reading some of the posts here on the MREs and at other CAP activities, I have come to the conclusion the military mis-named the MREs. But still had to call them something, as they were sold on the initials. I can say that...



MRE does NOT stand for Meals, Ready to Eat, but...




Meals,
Rejected by almost
Everyone...

Take care,

Flyer333555

Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Huey Driver on August 26, 2011, 12:15:19 AM
There are soooo many things that MRE can stand for...
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on August 26, 2011, 12:27:34 AM
Ok, NJ Cadet!

A challenge.

POST some!

Flyer333555


Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on August 26, 2011, 01:41:36 AM
Meals refusing to exit.

Meals refused by extraterrestrials.

Materials resembling edibles.

Morsels, regurgitated, eviscerated.

Three Lies for the Price of One: it's not a Meal, it's not Ready, and you can't Eat it!


(I say this as I have MRE's laying around my house. I love MRE's.)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on August 26, 2011, 02:06:12 AM
Try some C Rations: I'll guarantee that you will then love MREs.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: HGjunkie on August 26, 2011, 02:33:37 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on August 26, 2011, 02:06:12 AM
Try some C Rations: I'll guarantee that you will then love MREs.

How about D and K rats?  ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: titanII on August 26, 2011, 02:42:27 AM
Just to contribute...
The food at the 2011 MAWG Encampment was all good. All the meals were not only edible, but also tasty! :D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on August 26, 2011, 03:00:43 AM
Even I, as old as I am, missed D and K rats.  Let me tell you, that C rats can taste pretty good when you spend two weeks in the boonies in Viet Nam.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on August 26, 2011, 04:45:53 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on August 26, 2011, 03:00:43 AM
Even I, as old as I am, missed D and K rats.  Let me tell you, that C rats can taste pretty good when you spend two weeks in the boonies in Viet Nam.

Even the Ham and Mutha****ers? ;)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on August 26, 2011, 06:24:21 AM
Phil: some were better than others: all depends on how hungry you are.  Pork and beans was my favorite: hamburgers absolutely the worst.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on August 27, 2011, 03:26:27 AM
How about the Chocolate Nut Roll or the dreaded Fruit Cake? :o
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on August 27, 2011, 03:47:16 AM
Quote from: PHall on August 27, 2011, 03:26:27 AM
How about the Chocolate Nut Roll or the dreaded Fruit Cake? :o

Frooooot Caaaake!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on August 27, 2011, 06:06:49 AM
I forgot about the fruit cake.  The crackers and jam weren't bad.  Like I said, after two weeks in the boonies, almost anything tastes good.  During that period, I was with the 1st Bde, 101 Abn Div and their cooks did pretty well with 7 in 1s.  Dak To sucked.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Short Field on August 27, 2011, 06:18:45 AM
The fruit cake worked well for driving stakes. 
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Rowan on August 27, 2011, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Short Field on August 27, 2011, 06:18:45 AM
The fruit cake worked well for driving stakes.

Or to chock the wheels.

;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Huey Driver on August 27, 2011, 06:48:34 PM
One time, I got the hamburger/ meat pattie MRE. I decided to warm the burger up, put some cheese spread on, then put it between the two pieces of bread...BLEH. Worst idea ever!

IMO, the best MRE is the sloppy joe with the fudge brownie ;D
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: a2capt on August 29, 2011, 04:57:15 PM
I can't imagine anything worse, ever, stench wise, than last nights passage from near Bakersfield to the bottom of the Tejon Pass. I could sarcastically swear it was why In-N-Out was empty. No one wanted to eat after 20 miles of pure stench. 6 of us on the way back from Wing Conference, and 3 other people were the only ones in the 40 minutes or so that we were there.

If MRE burger heated can smell worse than that..
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: bosshawk on August 30, 2011, 07:46:37 PM
Tony: this has nothing to do with Encampment Food, but you have obviously never been to Korea in June and July.  The smell would make the Central Valley smell like a rose garden.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: SarDragon on August 30, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
Oh, yeah, BTDT.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: pilot97 on October 10, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
Haha, at FLWG summer encampment 2011 at the banquet, the last night when you didn't have to eat in five minutes or less, the people who got the biggest standing ovation were the cooks. ;) :D




    C/Senior Airman
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: jks19714 on October 11, 2011, 12:48:36 AM
Quote from: Rowan on August 27, 2011, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Short Field on August 27, 2011, 06:18:45 AM
The fruit cake worked well for driving stakes.

Or to chock the wheels.

;D

Or you can insert a few of them into your body armor if you don't have the inserts.  ???
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Munkers on October 28, 2011, 07:44:52 AM
IDWG Encampment 2011
first day we had these pretty good hamburgers, im pretty sure chef was still using it in the "meatloaf" on the final day.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: mocap84 on October 28, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
The worst food you could possibly have at an encampment is anything with beans. Burritos, Chili etc.  :-[
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: aceofspades on May 20, 2013, 04:01:23 PM
New York Wing Encampment 2012, Stratton air national Guard Base; the only time I have gone back for seconds for meatloaf. It was excellent. So was the strawberry short cake, the cheese cake, the regular cake, the vegetables, the pancakes, the bacon (although you cant really mess up bacon, so...), and everything else.
There were only 2 problems. ]
1st, I didn't like the eggs, but I really only like my moms and grandmas eggs
2nd, I got syrup on my blues cover and pants, and it STILL HAS NOT COME OFF my cover. Its been a year!!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: a2capt on May 20, 2013, 04:46:30 PM
A year later.. you can get a new cover.
..and bacon? Messed up? What some places pass off as bacon, you can use as a wheel shim.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: aceofspades on May 25, 2013, 11:27:31 PM
It's not noticeable unless pointed out, but I bugs me every time I put it on. I'm just to cheap to buy a new one.

I don't call that bacon. That's burnt, stale pig.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: JayT on May 26, 2013, 01:32:08 AM
Quote from: aceofspades on May 25, 2013, 11:27:31 PM
It's not noticeable unless pointed out, but I bugs me every time I put it on. I'm just to cheap to buy a new one.


Then you're noncompliant with uniform regulations, which state that your items must be clean and in good repair  ;)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: aceofspades on May 28, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Well, what they cant see cant hurt me  8)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 28, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: aceofspades on May 28, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Well, what they cant see cant hurt me  8)

_____ is what you do when no one is looking.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Peeka on May 28, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on May 28, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: aceofspades on May 28, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Well, what they cant see cant hurt me  8)

_____ is what you do when no one is looking.
...hmm...Core values anyone?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Garibaldi on May 29, 2013, 02:09:39 AM
Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is looking.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: spazyjosh on June 02, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
Utah wing encampment last year was some of the best food I have ever had!
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: That Anonymous Guy on June 02, 2013, 08:56:09 PM
Quote from: aceofspades on May 28, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Well, what they cant see cant hurt me  8)
Should I start calling you maple?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: The Happy Sergeant on June 04, 2013, 09:07:26 PM
Had some of the best food in my life at Cascade Falcon XVII. Biscuits and gravy(not to mention REAL EGGS!!!!!!) along with a killer burger at the Lewis/McChord D/FAC
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: a2capt on June 04, 2013, 11:21:27 PM
The mess hall at MCBH ranks fairly up in the ranks.. :)
Been eating on base since last Wednesday.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Garibaldi on June 05, 2013, 12:12:26 AM
encampment food...isn't that some kind of oxymoron?
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: TexasCadet on July 13, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
The worst encampment "food" that I had was meatballs and sauce on a white hotdog bun. I didn't even eat it. I just had extra fruit instead.
The best was probably either the chicken enchilada casserole or the hamburgers. Like people say, no body joins the military (or goes to encampment) for the food.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on July 13, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on July 13, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
The worst encampment "food" that I had was meatballs and sauce on a white hotdog bun. I didn't even eat it. I just had extra fruit instead.
The best was probably either the chicken enchilada casserole or the hamburgers. Like people say, no body joins the military (or goes to encampment) for the food.

What, you've never had a Meatball Sandwich?   You can go over to Subway and get one for $5.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on July 13, 2013, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on July 13, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
Like people say, no body joins the military (or goes to encampment) for the food.

180 degrees from my encampment experience, and we ate what the Navy recuits ate.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AACS Cadet21 on July 19, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
The food is good at COWG encampments, the hamburger buns were a little dry but other than that it was good! We even got Domino's one night, it gave me food poisoning  :(
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on July 19, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: AACS Cadet21 on July 19, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
The food is good at COWG encampments, the hamburger buns were a little dry but other than that it was good! We even got Domino's one night, it gave me food poisoning  :(

Your sentence contradicts itself.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: UH60guy on July 19, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 19, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Your sentence contradicts itself.

Not necessarily- some of my favorite meals made me the sickest (for example, I ate an entire large pizza by myself immediately after returning from a week of no food for SERE training). I guess the situation has some vote in the matter of how good things taste...
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on July 19, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Montezuma would be proud.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: UH60guy on July 20, 2013, 12:12:11 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 19, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Montezuma would be proud.
Oh, he had his revenge.

But back on topic, VAWG was pretty lucky. Chef Steve from the catering company kept everyone well fed and I have to say, he did a great job. Yeah, there's some standard food fare in there from time to time, but he went out of his way to make it fun for the cadets and even stopped in to say hi at a few of the events throughout the encampment as well.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 28, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
I did not have to worry. Found the food at the NY WG Encampment from Good to Excellent.

Sometimes a little bland but a little bit of salt on the side fixed it. Then again I eat a lot at McDonalds.

No Filet Mignon, no "Duck ala Orange" [sic], but it was still great.

Despite some recrimination from some of you guys on a different thread, I will still call Stratton Air National Guard Base cooks chefs!  :clap: ;D

Flyer
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Jazjar on July 30, 2013, 12:59:19 AM
Back on the subject of encampment food...   I agree with UH60, Chef Steve is an excellent cook.  I am glad my first encampment (this year) was at VAWG.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Al Sayre on July 30, 2013, 03:05:12 AM
WIWAC, we had NY Encampment at Griffiss AFB in Rome NY (it's gone now  :'( ) They had the best breakfast omelets I've ever had before or since.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Eclipse on July 30, 2013, 03:38:12 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 30, 2013, 03:05:12 AMThey had the best breakfast omelets I've ever had before or since.

Something I miss about the RTC as well.  Before they went to contracting out food service, recruits would staff the
kitchen during their "buy week" after graduation.  This was early 2000's when they still had consolidated galleys instead
of eating on-board "ship".

In addition to the standard fare, PO's and staff, including our people, were allowed to place "to-orders" for omelettes at breakfast,
as well as a few other "secret menu" items.  You can still do that, but the PO's and Chiefs have to place the orders in advance now since
they don't cook much in the new galleys, it's all done at a central kitchen and then trucked over.

"Corn for the Navy"... memories.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ProdigalJim on July 30, 2013, 10:36:34 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on July 30, 2013, 03:05:12 AM
WIWAC, we had NY Encampment at Griffiss AFB in Rome NY (it's gone now  :'( ) They had the best breakfast omelets I've ever had before or since.

I miss the encampment -- and the food -- at Plattsburgh AFB. NYWG used to have 200-plus there for two weeks...I *loved* that experience, each time I went (as a basic and on staff).

And yes, the food was pretty darn good (except the grits...something tells me that was the only place in upstate NY where one could see "grits" on a menu).
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: The Happy Sergeant on August 17, 2013, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: Cmdbuddy on February 06, 2010, 03:39:49 AM
Here's the rule with MRE's: the shorter the name, the better.  When you get to 4-5 word descriptions, don't do it.

For example, the beef stew is phenomenal (in terms of MRE's).  Ham steak with scrambled eggs is not.

I beg to differ. one mre i had at encampment was Baby back ribs with potato soup. it was the best mre i have ever had.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Cessna Man on August 19, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
Ribs sounds amazing.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: AALTIS on August 30, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
As a cadet two of my encampments were at AFBs (Offutt 90 & Whiteman 92).  There we used the base chow hall and had great food.  The other encampment was in Iowa (don't remember the year) at a winter encampment and there we cooked the food.  It wasn't bad.
On a similar topic is bivouac food.  We have a crew that goes to all our bivouacs and FTXs and provides the chow.  They do a great job.  If they could have a 101 qualification for ES Chef, they would be signed off.  Its a shame that in some places the cadets don't get such great chow.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on August 31, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on August 30, 2011, 07:46:37 PM
Tony: this has nothing to do with Encampment Food, but you have obviously never been to Korea in June and July.  The smell would make the Central Valley smell like a rose garden.

I've been there, smelled that. With CAP even, on IACE. Not to be forgotten.
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: GOCAP on September 04, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
it was horrible for me and the cadets!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ol'fido on September 04, 2013, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on August 31, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on August 30, 2011, 07:46:37 PM
Tony: this has nothing to do with Encampment Food, but you have obviously never been to Korea in June and July.  The smell would make the Central Valley smell like a rose garden.

I've been there, smelled that. With CAP even, on IACE. Not to be forgotten.
I love the smell of KimChi and rice paddies in the morning. It smells like......skunk sprayed toe jam. :P
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: PHall on September 05, 2013, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: ol'fido on September 04, 2013, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on August 31, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: bosshawk on August 30, 2011, 07:46:37 PM
Tony: this has nothing to do with Encampment Food, but you have obviously never been to Korea in June and July.  The smell would make the Central Valley smell like a rose garden.

I've been there, smelled that. With CAP even, on IACE. Not to be forgotten.
I love the smell of KimChi and rice paddies in the morning. It smells like......skunk sprayed toe jam. :P

You forgot "with garlic!" :P
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: NIN on September 05, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: PHall on September 05, 2013, 12:09:42 AM
You forgot "with garlic!" :P

And 100% more rice paddy fertilizer.

(Yeah, when they cracked the door to the plane at Osan AB 27 years ago today, I knew I was in for a treat)
Title: Re: Encampment Food
Post by: ol'fido on September 05, 2013, 01:57:42 PM
Luckily, I was there in March for one month of Team Spirit '90. I would not like to be there in July or August when the stuff starts getting cooked as well. I have allergies that have pretty well killed my sense of smell. If I can smell it, it's ripe.

Now when I was in Thailand in June it was probably as bad as that would be.

I do remember going down to the little ramshackle shack and ordering 2 chicken legs(I hope), fried rice, and a Coke for 100 baht because I couldn't stand the T-Rat corn beef hash for the 30th day in row. and the 31st, 32nd, 33rd, 34th.....