Cadet Bonding?

Started by ThirdGenCapGirl, July 01, 2012, 05:59:06 PM

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ThirdGenCapGirl

My squadron never had bonding issues until about, a year ago next month. I've been in Civil Air Patrol for almost four years. I'm a third generation cadet, third female. As a little girl I grew up listening to CAP stories about how they had soo much fun in the cadet program with their friends. I understood everything they used to talk about after about a year of participating in the cadet program. I'm a C/CMSgt, working towards my C/CMSgt Sustained, and my squadron seems to be having issues. For about 70 percent of my time in CAP I was the only female in my squadron, and we always practiced the trickle-in method for recruiting. Being where we are located and the speed of the city we are located in it is the most ideal scenario.

Now that you have a little background, on with the questions.

My squadron is having trouble with retention, I feel this is because we are not bonding like we used to/my family's stories. What are some activities we can do in civi's other than:


  • Lasertag
  • Air Museums
  • Bowling

I don't really understand how the other squadrons in my area can be so tight knit, while we're falling apart. We're getting to the point three of the senior cadets are thinking about leaving us behind and transferring. What can I plan to help this?

a2capt

Activities are pretty much limited .. and unlimited, by the local/extended area, imagination and willingness to participate.

R/C aircraft, find a club, get some cadets interested.
Clean a public park area as a unit activity
Movie nights, though in theory those are illegal due to what the FBI warning on most DVD's says. ;)
Everyone go to a movie...
Unit color guard at a baseball game, and unit members attend as a group.

Eclipse

#2
Are your cadets progressing?

Are they participating in activities outside the squadron such as encampments, bivouacs, and AE activities?

Are they active in ES?

Is your unit large enough to provide leadership and follower-ship opportunities?

Quote from: ThirdGenCapGirl on July 01, 2012, 05:59:06 PMI'm a C/CMSgt, working towards my C/CMSgt Sustained,

Your what?  Chief is Chief.  Armstrong doesn't make your a Chief+.

"That Others May Zoom"

ThirdGenCapGirl

Quote from: Eclipse on July 01, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
Are your cadets progressing?

Are they participating in activities outside the squadron such as encampments, bivouacs, and AE activities?

Are they active in ES?

Is your unit large enough to provide leadership and follower-ship opportunities?

Quote from: ThirdGenCapGirl on July 01, 2012, 05:59:06 PMI'm a C/CMSgt, working towards my C/CMSgt Sustained,

Your what?  Chief is Chief.  Armstrong doesn't make your a Chief+.

Yes, they are progressing.

Other than encampment and two December activities, not really.

Four are, myself included.

Not anymore, we have fourteen cadets. There are a few that don't show up, and are quiting.

I've got my Goddard.

ThirdGenCapGirl

I like the park clean up idea!
I'd like to have a color guard, but the Chief in charge of organizing a color guard has his head up in the clouds some where, we have a hard time getting him to attend the month CAC conference calls he volunteered for.

Eclipse

Then I would say the answers are in that response. 

Rather than social activities, you should be looking to promote CAP activities which add value to the cadets membership.  They can play lasertag and go bowling anytime they want with their friends and save the dues. 

You also need to move away from the trickle and into the a recruiting push.  It is very common for older cadets to move on with their lives, especially if they aren't doing anything but showing up for meetings.

Summer is the time when the majority of your cadets should be doing all sorts of "charge-up" activities that are the pay-off for the work they do during the other months.  NESA, Encampments, O-Rides, Rocket Launches, bivouacs, etc. Those activities will bring out the teamwork and esprit-de-corps you're looking for, and a wave a new cadets will bring a sense of urgency and mission back to the unit.

You might consider working with your unit leadership on a pipelined recruiting drive tat gets names on the page to start moving in the early Fall.

"That Others May Zoom"

lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 01, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
Your what?  Chief is Chief.  Armstrong doesn't make your a Chief+.
You say it your way......other's say it differently.

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on July 01, 2012, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 01, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
Your what?  Chief is Chief.  Armstrong doesn't make your a Chief+.
You say it your way......other's say it differently.

Why?  It's not "my way" it's the proper grade designation.

Are we going to start calling Lt Cols with LV, Lt Col (Sustained)?

"That Others May Zoom"

ThirdGenCapGirl

Sustained- 9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.

Dictionary^, I just said Chief Sustained so you understood I wasn't quite working toward my Mitchell just yet.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: ThirdGenCapGirl on July 01, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
Sustained- 9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.

Dictionary^, I just said Chief Sustained so you understood I wasn't quite working toward my Mitchell just yet.

Granted, but not necessary. You could have just said that you are working towards your Armstrong Achievement.

Extremepredjudice

The subject of this thread made me lol.

Definitely try to recruit more.

As for retention, call up the former members and ask why they left, and how you can improve the program.

Remenber, you aren't going to be friends with everyone.
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Eclipse

Quote from: ThirdGenCapGirl on July 01, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
Sustained- 9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.

Dictionary^, I just said Chief Sustained so you understood I wasn't quite working toward my Mitchell just yet.

I have a better one, how about "upper half" and "lower half" like admirals?

You might have been joking, but I have seen cadets refer to themselves in that way, including using it in signature lines.

"That Others May Zoom"

lordmonar

Quote from: usafaux2004 on July 01, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: ThirdGenCapGirl on July 01, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
Sustained- 9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.

Dictionary^, I just said Chief Sustained so you understood I wasn't quite working toward my Mitchell just yet.

Granted, but not necessary. You could have just said that you are working towards your Armstrong Achievement.
That is true for all acheivments or milestones.....it just depenends on how you "count" your progress in the cadet program.

Are you a "I count promotions" sort of person or are you a "I count acheivments" sort of person?

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Major Lord

Thirdgencapgirl paints a picture that many of us have seen in the Cadet Program. A few individuals who are goal driven, and progress, and the rest stagnant. In a way, her ideas about activities are poignant, but miss the mark by a hair. In any organization, people coalesce into a team typically in one of to ways; 1) One, they find a common enemy, and work together under the lash to find freedom. This would not be a good model. The second, is that they find a common goal, such as defeating another squadron in a competition. Your lack of bonding stems from the fact that you are not training and fighting (metaphorically) as a single group, and remain a cluster of individuals, instead of a team, burnished with each others sweat and blood in the fight against mediocrity. Fundamentally, this is a failure of leadership. I suggest asking your deputy commander for a private conference and seeing if he/she can kick your Cadet Officer's into high gear. You will build a team by finding  challenges and attacking them head on, it cannot be done passively.

Major Lord

p.s. Eclipse, I suggest "Lt Col, Lower half", and "Lt. Col. Upper half"!
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

CamoMan

At my unit we used to have 5th Monday get-togethers instead of a meeting, more recently CG cadets & any other cadets who want to get together for PT, we'll occasionally get together outside of CAP just to chill.

lordmonar

I find Super Glue works good for bonding cadets.....but it leaves a hard residue.  ;D
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Extremepredjudice

Quote from: lordmonar on July 04, 2012, 08:04:20 AM
I find Super Glue works good for bonding cadets.....but it leaves a hard residue.  ;D
I was going to say something, but no. Not even gunna go there.


Can someone please change the name of this thread?
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ol'fido

Quote from: lordmonar on July 04, 2012, 08:04:20 AM
I find Super Glue works good for bonding cadets.....but it leaves a hard residue.  ;D
I would think that someone who is associated with CAP and the RM would go with Velcro as the first option. ;D
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

lordmonar

Quote from: ol'fido on July 04, 2012, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 04, 2012, 08:04:20 AM
I find Super Glue works good for bonding cadets.....but it leaves a hard residue.  ;D
I would think that someone who is associated with CAP and the RM would go with Velcro as the first option. ;D
No......Velcro is too temporary.......I like permanant bonds!  8)
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Phil Hirons, Jr.

I think we've established duct taping cadets is verboten. I would imagine that would apply to Velcro, Super Glue and all other commercial adhesives.

Once others started I could not resist  >:D >:D