Well here it is folks. The proposed design for the Ira C. Eaker mini medal. I hope you enjoy!
Is it bronze, silver, or gold?
I like the design, but I would try and keep the diamonds together (if you were going to keep that element). they look like a pair of C/Maj diamonds to me.
Quote from: Sqn72DO on February 03, 2009, 03:36:08 PM
Is it bronze, silver, or gold?
I am not sure what type it would be. I would guess bronze.
Good Job! :clap:
Means a lot to us Eaker cadets
Quote from: cnitas on February 03, 2009, 03:52:49 PM
I like the design, but I would try and keep the diamonds together (if you were going to keep that element). they look like a pair of C/Maj diamonds to me.
Both a single diamond (2 collectively on medal ) and double diamond (2 pairs of 2 diamonds were submitted). Not sure if they would want a collective or single layout for the design. Good eye!
I like the '2 pairs' version better myself.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop and giving us a chance to make direct contributions to this kind of stuff.
Eaker was a LtGen on active duty, but was later promoted to GEN (as was Doolittle and Davis). So shouldn't it have 4 stars?
Quote from: caphistorian on February 03, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Sqn72DO on February 03, 2009, 03:36:08 PM
Is it bronze, silver, or gold?
I am not sure what type it would be. I would guess bronze.
All CAP mini medals, except for the SMV, BMV, DSM, ESA and MSA are a silver oxide color, if I remember correctly. The Comm-Comm is a bright silver.
Lifesaving is bronze
Quote from: Cecil DP on February 03, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
Eaker was a LtGen on active duty, but was later promoted to GEN (as was Doolittle and Davis). So shouldn't it have 4 stars?
Very true. Eaker was promoted by Reagan. The three stars were selected because of the current Eaker Award certificate having three stars. Wanted to keep them consistent.
Looks good.
Quote from: swamprat86 on February 03, 2009, 07:24:44 PM
Lifesaving is bronze
Forgot about that one... so sorry! ;D
Not to be a back-seat designer, but since I'm not in the front seat on this....
Instead of the globe, what if the landmark transcontintental air-refueling flight was symbolized more directly? Like maybe with a hand passing power (symbolized with a thunderbolt?) to another hand? The receiving hand could sit lower, to symbolize reception.
This symbolism would also serve the dual purpose of symbolizing the passing of knowledge -- instead of the torch, which gets so overused, it's clip-arty.
An example of such a visual metaphor is actually on the seal of my alma mater....
http://www.marietta.edu/style/images/mc_seal.gif (http://www.marietta.edu/style/images/mc_seal.gif)
Of course, it's a little more spread out than I'd prefer for the planchet.
The lightning bolt is usually a symbol of communications. See the AF specialty badge for comm, has a fist with lightning coming out of it over a globe.
Quote from: jimmydeanno on February 03, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
The lightning bolt is usually a symbol of communications. See the AF specialty badge for comm, has a fist with lightning coming out of it over a globe.
Yes, but the SAC insignia had an iron first with lightning bolts emanating from it. And those guys weren't communicating.
Knowledge is power. And sometimes, it's air power, too.
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on February 03, 2009, 09:34:54 PM
Yes, but the SAC insignia had an iron first with lightning bolts emanating from it. And those guys weren't communicating.
Having seen, up close, what a cell of BUFF's could do in a jungle, I'd say that the SAC guys were very good at communicating. ;D
Quote from: swamprat86 on February 03, 2009, 07:24:44 PM
Lifesaving is bronze
The lifesave medal is actually a dull silver.
I think the design is sharp. I do have to agree on one item, it does look like there are two cadet major diamonds instead of a cadet lieutenant colonel. Other than that little change, run with it.
Mine must be really old.. I remember it being bronze. I'll have to pull it out and look at it.
Quote from: swamprat86 on February 04, 2009, 03:23:23 PM
Mine must be really old.. I remember it being bronze. I'll have to pull it out a look at it.
If it is I would really like to get a pic of it.
Quote from: Hawk200 on February 04, 2009, 03:23:11 PM
I think the design is sharp. I do have to agree on one item, it does look like there are two cadet major diamonds instead of a cadet lieutenant colonel. Other than that little change, run with it.
The design with the two diamonds made it through for the submission to the NB.
I love being a Historian!!
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Congrats!
Anything you need us to do to help get this through? I will let my Wing CC know about it and make sure he supports it.
Quote from: swamprat86 on February 04, 2009, 03:29:54 PM
Anything you need us to do to help get this through? I will let my Wing CC know about it and make sure he supports it.
Everyone who supports this can let their wing cc or regional folks know that they like the idea. I do not feel that it will be a problem. It is an allready existing award and would be easy to support.
My Wing CC is on board.
Once stamped, can they be issued based on number to the recipients?
Mine is #0! >:D
Good looking, can't wait to replace my Earhart medal.
Looks incredible James! I've been waiting for a long time to see this one happen. Thanks for all your work and to anyone else who helped push it off the ground!
Quote from: SilverEagle2 on February 04, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Once stamped, can they be issued based on number to the recipients?
Mine is #0! >:D
Good looking, can't wait to replace my Earhart medal.
Only if you take it to the mall engraving shop! >:D ;D
Quote from: SilverEagle2 on February 04, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Once stamped, can they be issued based on number to the recipients?
Mine is #0! >:D
Good looking, can't wait to replace my Earhart medal.
I like the idea of having it engraved. My wife had my full size SMV engraved with
Major James L. Shaw Jr.
08/11/07.
Shes a great woman.
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on February 11, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: SilverEagle2 on February 04, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Once stamped, can they be issued based on number to the recipients?
Mine is #0! >:D
Good looking, can't wait to replace my Earhart medal.
Only if you take it to the mall engraving shop! >:D ;D
Usually a miniature medal is so small and the medal so cheap that engraving is next to impossible.
I have seen the full text of the Lord's Prayer engraved on the back of a dime. So, its not impossible. ;D
A medal made of Aluminum is not as hard as a silver nickle composite
I suppose you could use a die punch and stamp your number on the back.
I did not imply that I wanted a number stamped on the back.
I simply wanted to be issued mine first. (In a perfect 0 base world that is)
When I mentioned stamped, I meant imprinted/cut/made.
That was all.
NOW you need to do one for the wright brothers milestone
So...what is the status of this medal? Been a while since it was discussed and some would like to see it complete.
Seems the process for the "Achievement Award" was much shorter from proposal to reality.
I thought it was approved when presented at the board.
I thought it was already approved... someone might want to check on Vanguard to see if they've already started production on it. Sometimes they make the initial run and fail to notify the membership.
Vanguard has nothing on it. (According to the person I spoke with.)
Quote from: SilverEagle2 on June 24, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
Vanguard has nothing on it. (According to the person I spoke with.)
Lazy bastidges! >:D ;D
what a surprise
Spoke with Vanguard about the mini medal. They don't have any idea because it has been put on hold for the moment. The uniform folks are trying to "clean up" some of our medal and ribbon issues. It should still be done but it may be a while.
Quote from: caphistorian on June 25, 2009, 12:35:57 PMThe uniform folks are trying to "clean up" some of our medal and ribbon issues.
That's good to hear. I do hope that things get run through with a fine tooth comb. We need it.
Quote from: Cecil DP on February 03, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
Eaker was a LtGen on active duty, but was later promoted to GEN (as was Doolittle and Davis). So shouldn't it have 4 stars?
And shouldn't it have two crossed violins, since Eaker played second fiddle to Spaatz his entire career? ;D
Quote from: Mustang on July 07, 2009, 08:53:20 AMAnd shouldn't it have two crossed violins, since Eaker played second fiddle to Spaatz his entire career? ;D
Dude, that's just mean.
It looks like the Eaker Mini-Medals are now available for purchase from Vanguard. Just in time to get it before NSC! :clap:
http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_1969&products_id=14450 (http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_1969&products_id=14450)
Great...another expense... 8)
(http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/images/medium/000000CAP0800L_MED.jpg)
Not fair... The drape actually matches the ribbon.
I hope they have them at the NB. I would like to have one for my collection.
Finally...ordered.
Am I seeing this right, or is the torch a brass tone against the silver?
Appears to be...
(http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/images/large/000000CAP0800L_LRG.jpg)
Got mine and it is by far the best stamped medal I have seen. Very high quality.
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on August 26, 2009, 08:49:48 PM
Am I seeing this right, or is the torch a brass tone against the silver?
Yes it is. I picked up a few at the NB. I am going to try and get a better picture of it and post.
Here is mine zipped
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