Wright Brothers Award Numbering

[Spike]

Apparently they did not feel it important to turn in my Wright Award to NHQ...

That is a Cadets responsibility to mail/fax/ email milestone paperwork. 

[Майор Хаткевич]

Unless the unit doesn't even let a new cadet know there is anything to submit prior to the Mitchell...

[Spike]

Unless the unit doesn't even let a new cadet know there is anything to submit prior to the Mitchell...

But the form has to be signed by the CADET.  If the Cadet does not take the time to read what he or she is signing, it is no fault but the Cadets.  Now, if after signing the form, the CAP Officer says "I will send this in for you, don't worry", that is a different matter entirely. 

[Майор Хаткевич]

Again, unless the cadet (as was I) is simply taking the Wright Achievement 4 test instead of the Wright Brothers Award, and doesn't get the paperwork done UNTIL he transfers to another unit on the eve of his Mitchell.

I had both of my Phase I & II forms submited at the same time. They backdate the Phase I, but the number I received was the same as those who actually got C/SSgt when I had my C/2d Lt.

[davidsinn]

It's all a moot point now. You should be using the cadet promotions module and you will get an instant response on the Wright Brothers number. I really hate having to send things to Maxwell. I don't understand why more things aren't in eServices.

[Al Sayre]

It also depends on when you got it.  Squadrons were printing the WB awards without putting the numbers on them for quite a while, and they weren't always numbered IIRC.

[kd8gua]

Well, I just hope I can get in contact with my old squadron and pray they still have my cadet file. Then I can figure out what on earth happened.

Obviously something went way wrong, because if it was in fact me who screwed up, I should have never been presented a Wright Brothers Award certificate since it can only be presented AFTER the award posts. If my file is complete, it should still have my completed Phase I and half complete (ended at Doolittle) Phase II 52-1s. It shouldn't have my Phase I since that was supposed to be mailed.

If I can get this sorted out, my Wright Award would be processed with the next current number, correct? This would put a (hopefully) back-dated Wright Award from 2003 with a number of around 13000 or so. Perhaps, for my own curiousity, once I get a date of completion on the Wright Award, I can get a rough guess of what number mine actually is.

[jimmydeanno]

Well, I just hope I can get in contact with my old squadron and pray they still have my cadet file.

If it's 2003, you'll be lucky - you're right at that point where they start throwing stuff away.  I don't even have my income tax return from 2003 

[davidsinn]

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Wright Brothers

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14 Jan 2010

That's my flight sergeant so you'd be somewhere after that.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Wright Brothers    5378    31 Dec 2003
Billy Mitchell       54586    31 Mar 2006
Amelia Earhart    13815    30 Mar 2007

My Wright Brothers was issued same time as my Mitchell, so my 5378 Number puts it right at April 2006, some 2.25 Years AFTER I earned it.

[RiverAux]

Assuming you're a senior now, does it really matter if NHQ has a record or not?  NHQ doesn't have anything of my 1980s cadet days in the computer and it hasn't hurt me in 13 years or so as a senior. 

[kd8gua]

Does it hurt anything? Not really, but I wouldn't mind having my records set straight for once. Just for my own curiousity I suppose.

[kd8gua]

So I thought I'd give the latest update to my paperwork randomness.

I received my cadet file from my former squadron, and after very careful examination, I discovered a few items:

1. I took, and passed, my written Achievement 3 test on 31 March 2003. This means I earned the Wright Brothers Achievement, but was instead awarded, incorrectly, the Feik ribbon.

2. My Wright Brothers Award was completed on 28 July 2003. However, I still had the original 52-1, so my Wright Brothers Award, and any subsequent achievements, are null and void until I get a copy of this information to NHQ. All of this just so I can wear my Doolittle ribbon on my blues as a senior and finally get a number for my Wright Brothers. Granted my award will be at least 12,000 numbers off, better late than never.

3. I have a number of form 2a's, for a squadron transfer I completed, as well as for Encampment and Red Service ribbons. However, only one of the 4 forms is complete (one of the transfer forms). The rest were either not signed by the commander, or filled out on my behalf and tossed in my file, without either the commander or myself signing!