Facebook Recruiting Box Scores-REDUX

[THRAWN]

It's been a year since this discussion: http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=23676.20;topicseen

OldGuy, what are the latest stats?

[Holding Pattern]

Due to recent events, the data involved there is no longer viable.

[Holding Pattern]

That said, my understanding is that his new squadron broke several recruitment records recently with his as one of the spokes of the plan.

[Eclipse]

So no then...

[THRAWN]

So no then...

But it is the best thing since Texas Pete packets...

[OldGuy]

So no then...

Wrong. I moved from that unit and my new unit has been setting records month after month. We have, since late July, processed over 21 "applications" (leads) and are starting to see membership applications from same. A strong, focussed social media strategy that integrates into a more traditional, in person (open houses, civic clubs, etc) process pays dividends.

[THRAWN]

So no then...

Wrong. I moved from that unit and my new unit has been setting records month after month. We have, since late July, processed over 21 "applications" (leads) and are starting to see membership applications from same. A strong, focussed social media strategy that integrates into a more traditional, in person (open houses, civic clubs, etc) process pays dividends.

Super. So before you left the old unit, how many of the 4 that came on that started this whole caper, were still there? How many of those 21 "leads" at the new unit have joined and completed Level 1?

[OldGuy]

So no then...

Wrong. I moved from that unit and my new unit has been setting records month after month. We have, since late July, processed over 21 "applications" (leads) and are starting to see membership applications from same. A strong, focussed social media strategy that integrates into a more traditional, in person (open houses, civic clubs, etc) process pays dividends.

Super. So before you left the old unit, how many of the 4 that came on that started this whole caper, were still there? How many of those 21 "leads" at the new unit have joined and completed Level 1?

My recollection is that all four are still CAP members, at least two have changed units though. The very first of the 21 leads are going through the process now, but the reality is it works.

[JohhnyD]

So no then...

Wrong. I moved from that unit and my new unit has been setting records month after month. We have, since late July, processed over 21 "applications" (leads) and are starting to see membership applications from same. A strong, focussed social media strategy that integrates into a more traditional, in person (open houses, civic clubs, etc) process pays dividends.

Super. So before you left the old unit, how many of the 4 that came on that started this whole caper, were still there? How many of those 21 "leads" at the new unit have joined and completed Level 1?

My recollection is that all four are still CAP members, at least two have changed units though. The very first of the 21 leads are going through the process now, but the reality is it works.

I looked, the new unit is up 14% since the start of the FB campaign. Pretty good, no?

[Eclipse]

I looked, the new unit is up 14% since the start of the FB campaign. Pretty good, no?

It what context? Is 14% one member?  Is it 10?

And what evidence is there that the growth is attributable or different from happenstance?

[JohhnyD]

I looked, the new unit is up 14% since the start of the FB campaign. Pretty good, no?

It what context? Is 14% one member?  Is it 10?

And what evidence is there that the growth is attributable or different from happenstance?

Membership was 100, now is 114. As for "evidence", you tell me - when has "happenstance" achieved a 14 member growth in one quarter in your unit? BTW, I really do not care what you do in your unit, I know what works for us and we are doing it - and winning. Capice?

[Eclipse]

It's "Capisce".

You can stand on a corner with a bullhorn and give away free avocados with a new membership for all anyone cares, but when you want to make an
argument that a given plan or program produces results, you need to provide more evidence then "well it seems that way".

Correlation does not imply causation.

Just about any decent air show or recruiting booth can produce those types of numbers, and I will continue to assert
that fake job ads are a deceptive practice and counterproductive.

21 Leads with maybe one conversion isn't exactly a success story.

[JohhnyD]

21 Leads with maybe one conversion isn't exactly a success story.

How many leads are you managing? What was your growth rate in members over the last 90 days?

[JohhnyD]

... and I will continue to assert that fake job ads are a deceptive practice and counterproductive.

What is "fake" about advertising a volunteer position? And in what odd world would getting the word out that we want volunteers "counter-productive"?

[Eclipse]

21 Leads with maybe one conversion isn't exactly a success story.

How many leads are you managing? What was your growth rate in members over the last 90 days?

I'm long past recruiting at the unit level, thank you, and since you seem to be missing the point, and have a bit of
a 'tude about a unit you're not even in, I think you can have this conversation with others.

[JohhnyD]

It's "Capisce".

Nope. It is an Americanism, and both spellings are as correct as the other. In Italian it would be capisci , but who cares?

[JohhnyD]

I'm long past recruiting at the unit level, thank you, ...

So you just want to play sidewalk super while others do the work. Got it. No thanks.

[etodd]

Why always the naysayers here? Can't some of you at least ONCE say "Good job, keep up the good work!" ... instead of jumping on a member for not having positive proof and data.  Why do YOU need their data? If its working for them ... CELEBRATE with them. Why be THAT person EVERY single time?

[PHall]

Why always the naysayers here? Can't some of you at least ONCE say "Good job, keep up the good work!" ... instead of jumping on a member for not having positive proof and data.  Why do YOU need their data? If its working for them ... CELEBRATE with them. Why be THAT person EVERY single time?

We kinda like people to back up their claims, especially when they seem to be outside the normal range.

[etodd]

Why always the naysayers here? Can't some of you at least ONCE say "Good job, keep up the good work!" ... instead of jumping on a member for not having positive proof and data.  Why do YOU need their data? If its working for them ... CELEBRATE with them. Why be THAT person EVERY single time?

We kinda like people to back up their claims, especially when they seem to be outside the normal range.

If someone was trying to implement something CAP wide, sure. But when someone is just excited over what happened in their little corner of the world, then no. It's just the usual naysayers who for whatever reason, enjoy chopping happy people down. It's sad, just sad. Pathetic even. Not the kind of people to invite to a party.