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Title: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:07:22 AM
Is the wright bros drill test hard? Do ya'll know any thing to help my get though it?
Title: Re: Is the wright ...
Post by: PA Guy on October 08, 2013, 03:35:23 AM
It is only hard if you don't learn and study the material.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:38:24 AM
Quote from: PA Guy on October 08, 2013, 03:35:23 AM
It is only hard if you don't learn and study the material.

I've read and reread the chapters.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 03:41:27 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:07:22 AMIs the Wright Brothers drill test hard? Do you all know any thing to help my get though it?
Depends if you have the Wright Stuff .. or not.

Hard is relative.

It's a controlled item none the less. It's not full of any tricks. I'll let you in on that one "secret". Anything else, you'll find out the day you take it.

I would be worrying about the written portion myself. :)

But like the written portion, it's comprehensive, and based on the previous three chapters.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:44:30 AM
Quote from: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 03:41:27 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:07:22 AMIs the Wright Brothers drill test hard? Do you all know any thing to help my get though it?
Depends if you have the Wright Stuff .. or not.

Hard is relative.

It's a controlled item none the less. It's not full of any tricks. I'll let you in on that one "secret". Anything else, you'll find out the day you take it.

I would be worrying about the written portion myself. :)

But like the written portion, it's comprehensive, and based on the previous three chapters.

Ya I already took the written test don't know if I passed but I took it.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Huey Driver on October 08, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:44:30 AM
Ya I already took the written test don't know if I passed but I took it.

As in the Wright Brothers Exam? Drill is part of the leadership exam, in which case your Testing Officer should've informed you whether you passed or not.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Quote from: JerseyCadet on October 08, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:44:30 AM
Ya I already took the written test don't know if I passed but I took it.

As in the Wright Brothers Exam? Drill is part of the leadership exam, in which case your Testing Officer should've informed you whether you passed or not.

Are testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 03:58:44 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AMAre testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.
:o The power of three's.. sometimes it takes me three of something to get back to a cadet on a test result. But three weeks? That's unacceptable.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
 :P
Quote from: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 03:58:44 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AMAre testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.
:o The power of three's.. sometimes it takes me three of something to get back to a cadet on a test result. But three weeks? That's unacceptable.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: MSG Mac on October 08, 2013, 06:31:31 AM
The required Drill moves are not secret and are in the Cadet Drill Pamphlet that you received with your cadet package. If you don't have it, download from the Cadet Programs website.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 06:36:31 AM
No, the drill moves themselves are not secret. But since the test sheet itself is not published anywhere except  with the controlled items that came from NHQ, the exact moves, the order of them, and anything nearly specific is controlled.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: MSG Mac on October 08, 2013, 06:58:51 AM
But the Drill Test book is available on line and there is a paragraph in the introduction which says

" There is no need for this test to be secured. because these are performance tests and the subject matter is known to the cadets, there is essentially no advantage to cadets who happen to see the test booklet in advance"

Add to that it is available to download from the site without a password or login.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: jeders on October 08, 2013, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: a2capt on October 08, 2013, 06:36:31 AM
No, the drill moves themselves are not secret. But since the test sheet itself is not published anywhere except  with the controlled items that came from NHQ, the exact moves, the order of them, and anything nearly specific is controlled.

It's published online and not a controlled item.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on October 08, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
The drill tests published include achievement tests. The WBA drill test is only found attached to the leadership test sent from nhq.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: jeders on October 08, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on October 08, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
The drill tests published include achievement tests. The WBA drill test is only found attached to the leadership test sent from nhq.

I apologize, you're right. That said, if you can do the first three drill tests, you can do the Wright Bros. Drill Test.

Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Quote from: JerseyCadet on October 08, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:44:30 AM
Ya I already took the written test don't know if I passed but I took it.

As in the Wright Brothers Exam? Drill is part of the leadership exam, in which case your Testing Officer should've informed you whether you passed or not.

Are testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.

This is ridiculous, as it is unnecessarily delaying you completing the test.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on October 08, 2013, 01:57:06 PM
Or retest in case of a failure. If I can manage to grade an Earhart (or two) and two WBA in a night, so can anyone else.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Eclipse on October 08, 2013, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Are testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.

I don't know?  Are they?
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
^Haha. Sorry I meant my not are. :P
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Eclipse on October 08, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Are testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.

How about...

"Our Testing Officer doesn't say anything until about 3 weeks after we take the test."
(Which is still a clunky sentence.)

You should get the results immediately.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 02:50:48 PM
^I know right. They want us to promote but they dont tell us that if we passed so we can promote.

How can I get to the drill PDF or textbook?
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: abdsp51 on October 08, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
The drill portion of the Wright Bros exam is part of the exam and is not part of the drill test manual that is availible.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: C/Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 05:01:53 PM
OK
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: davedove on October 08, 2013, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on October 08, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Are testing officer dosen't say anything til about 3 weeks after you took the test.

How about...

"Our Testing Officer doesn't say anything until about 3 weeks after we take the test."
(Which is still a clunky sentence.)

You should get the results immediately.

Even if circumstances keep them from grading the test immediately (it does happen sometimes), then certainly by the next meeting.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on October 08, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 02:50:48 PM
^I know right. They want us to promote but they dont tell us that if we passed so we can promote.

How can I get to the drill PDF or textbook?

Make sure you know the first three tests fully:
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/CAPT_782_Drill_Test_FINAL_0D0A619D59581.pdf (http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/CAPT_782_Drill_Test_FINAL_0D0A619D59581.pdf)

Might need to get off the DS and onto a computer to open it.
Title: Re: Is the wright bros drill test hard?
Post by: Critical AOA on October 08, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
Quote from: Awesomenesss on October 08, 2013, 03:07:22 AM
Is the wright bros drill test hard? Do ya'll know any thing to help my get though it?

The first thing you need to know is that you capitalize the first letter of a person's name as in Wright.  This is especially important as they were actually awesome.