NEC Meeting - No audio?

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There has to be one stand out.

and I tuned back in late.  What was the exact motion about Enlisted Grades? 

[SJFedor]

Not sure, I missed it too.

Just watched Gen Courter start yelling "OPSEC, OPSEC!" when they started to talk about some activities that pilots in SER were participating in FL.

[jeders]

and I tuned back in late.  What was the exact motion about Enlisted Grades? 

They approved the working group to look into it with the added guidance of determining what a CAP NCO corps would be used for and what value non-prior military NCOs would be.

[NEBoom]

I was interested to see what they came up with for the Marketing Plan/PAO items they were discussing (I forget what they exactly called it).  they had a handout for the board that Gen Courter said was available on line.  I've been searching a bit here while I listen to new business, but no luck.  Anybody found it?

[CAP Producer]

I was interested to see what they came up with for the Marketing Plan/PAO items they were discussing (I forget what they exactly called it).  they had a handout for the board that Gen Courter said was available on line.  I've been searching a bit here while I listen to new business, but no luck.  Anybody found it?

http://www.cap.gov/visitors/members/public_affairs/cap_national_marketing_plan/plan_downloads/

[NEBoom]

I was interested to see what they came up with for the Marketing Plan/PAO items they were discussing (I forget what they exactly called it).  they had a handout for the board that Gen Courter said was available on line.  I've been searching a bit here while I listen to new business, but no luck.  Anybody found it?

http://www.cap.gov/visitors/members/public_affairs/cap_national_marketing_plan/plan_downloads/

Great.  Thanks much!!

[BillB]

It lookjs like on the audio they are using wireless mikes and someone forgot to turn the switch on the mike to ON. Or whoever is running audio isn't paying attention. The only audio is from a mike somewhere in the room, away from the speaker.

[RplnXbrnt]

They also passed crediting former cadets with past accomplishments for senior membership without amendment.  IMO it could have used a few.

So, I'm curious -- does the fact that they passed this agenda item make the proposed change occur immediately?

For example, I went to COS (and RCLS, for that matter) as a cadet, but have not yet completed AFIADL-13. If this change takes effect immediately (well, at the end of the meeting, anyway) make it such that I don't have to finish AFIADL-13? I already have SLS and the CP technician rating, so that's the only thing otherwise standing in my way from Level II completion.

Thanks!

[Eclipse]

Did it ever come back up?

Anyone got a summary?  I'm curious to know how the NCO discussion went.

(Disregard, I see from the above)

[BillB]

A lot of these items were moved to Saturday. However there will be no streaming video of the Saturday NEC meeting.

[John Bryan]

Charector Development Officer.....

Does this mean all the MLO Badges will have to be replaced with ones that say CDO? This is another uniform change that will cost the MLO's....I mean CDO's. Does this mean the 52-16 will change from ML to CD?

By the way....when speaking and saying CDO how do we know if we are talking about the Charector Development Officer or the Counter Drug Officer?

[Chappie]

Charector Development Officer.....

Does this mean all the MLO Badges will have to be replaced with ones that say CDO? This is another uniform change that will cost the MLO's....I mean CDO's. Does this mean the 52-16 will change from ML to CD?

By the way....when speaking and saying CDO how do we know if we are talking about the Charector Development Officer or the Counter Drug Officer?

Who knows how this name change will affect the job title or specialty badge?  As for the regs...that is just paperwork.   I was opposed to this change the first time it was presented....so I guess the second time around was a charm.  Again I am convinced that there are times when the NEC just doesn't see the big picture...not the first time nor will it be the last 

[Tim Medeiros]

They were actually talking about coming up with a different acronym for the position due to confusion with counter drug, they talked about that for a while.

[RiverAux]

I wonder why they're not doing the webcast on Saturday as well... I watched about an hour of it and they kicked a whole lot of discussion until the next day. 

[John Bryan]

So did anyone hear if Chaplain (Col) Sharp (National Chief of Chaplains) spoke on the MLO issue? If so what were his feelings?

[MIKE]

IIRC they were going to change it to Character Development during the 52-16 rewrites, but it was amended by the NB or something.

[John Bryan]

IIRC....the NB had board members against the change and a lot of other things. The CP staff and NCAC went back made changes and then reported back with the current 52-16.

I would be interested in the CP and HC folks feelings?

[afgeo4]

Character development? These cadets already have character. They do more than 99% of teenagers do. They put on uniforms, read textbooks, train, come to meetings, train more, perform SAR and DR and then train a bit more again and that's without any kind of pay. Character? I think that Character Development title is a slap in the face of cadets.

(I am not and never was a cadet)

[RiverAux]

Then by implication you're saying that they lack morals...

[mikeylikey]

Why can't we just use Moral Leadership?  I must have missed that.