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Started by LSThiker, May 23, 2014, 11:16:26 PM

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Pulsar

the patterns change faster than the wars...
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Quote from: antdetroitwallyball on May 24, 2014, 05:37:18 PM
I'd love to see someone try to tell the Coast Guard that they now have to where a uniform of any form of camoflage as their main utility uniform. It literally makes no sense. The only camo uniforms worn by the CG are worn by the handfull of coasties (literally less than a few hundred) who work overseas in southwest Asia.

Having worn ODUs for a bit now... and even Tropical Blue, solid CG blue is a magnet for dirt.  I can see the point of the Navy NWU just in the amount of crap I pick up just getting out of the car in my freshly pressed uniform.
Mike Johnston

The CyBorg is destroyed

When I first saw the camouflage that Royal Australian Navy personnel wear aboard ship, I thought "what the heck use do they get from that?"

It was then pointed out to me that such colours/patterns are very good for having the kind of dirt they would get aboard ship not be the "magnet" that Mike describes.



But...as for Civil Air Patrol, and this will never, ever happen, regardless of colour, it might be useful (and simpler) to have one with epaulettes and we could wear our standard shoulder marks on it, leather aircrew-type patch (like the AF tried) and MAJCOM patch.  We would look much less like walking billboards, there would be much less sewing and all those who scream blue murder about "distinctiveness" would be sated (a little humour there).
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blackrain

This is the reason I refuse to buy anything else in the ACU pattern (HATE the ACU) unless forced by my command (maybe not even then). 3 deployments and 3 different uniforms......enough already.....

BBDU would be my choice for CAP though it would mean a specific purchase for CAP that not all could afford.
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly" PVT Murphy

Private Investigator

I find it interesting when I went to the link. Army Times has 24 comments and CAP Talk has 24 comments. Wonder who takes uniform issues more seriously   ::)

Nikos

Just my 2 cents here. I am one of the new guys here.  Any uniform with the shirt worn outside, not tucked in, seems to me anyway, to be a safety hazard.  It might get caught on something like equipment when working.  Has anyone had an issue with this?

Garibaldi

Quote from: Nikos on May 26, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
Just my 2 cents here. I am one of the new guys here.  Any uniform with the shirt worn outside, not tucked in, seems to me anyway, to be a safety hazard.  It might get caught on something like equipment when working.  Has anyone had an issue with this?

I don't think it was a consideration when creating unifoms. The blouse has been untucked for hundreds of years.
Still a major after all these years.
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BFreemanMA

+1 Garibaldi. I've taken my BDUs through nearly two years of exercises and other use and I haven't encountered a problem.
Brian Freeman, Capt, CAP
Public Affairs Officer
Westover Composite Squadron


abdsp51

Quote from: Nikos on May 26, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
Just my 2 cents here. I am one of the new guys here.  Any uniform with the shirt worn outside, not tucked in, seems to me anyway, to be a safety hazard.  It might get caught on something like equipment when working.  Has anyone had an issue with this?

Not an issue, most of the time loose clothing and jewelry is removed before working on the flight line at least in the AF anyway.  Not to mention the Navy does wear shirts and vests during flight ops that are loose.  And as long as someone has their head on a swivel and has their SA in check not that big of a deal.

Eclipse

Quote from: BFreemanMA on May 26, 2014, 11:18:54 PM
+1 Garibaldi. I've taken my BDUs through nearly two years of exercises and other use and I haven't encountered a problem.

No issues.

"That Others May Zoom"

Garibaldi

When I said hundreds of years, I meant literally hundreds of years, way back to the Revolutionary war and back. I'm not sure why, but every time I see a soldier in a uniform from the past, the blouse has always been un-tucked. The only exception I can think of was the OG  fatigues, which we tucked in. I've seen them un-tucked in combat zones but in garrison they were tucked in.
Still a major after all these years.
ES dude, leadership ossifer, publik affaires
Opinionated and wrong 99% of the time about all things

lordmonar

In all the years that I wore BDU's on active duty....the biggest safety issue I ever encountered was the fricking buttons!  Especially the ones for the side flaps!  Those used to catch on all sort of stuff.....and if you were doing camo netting......forget about it!  You were going to get stuck!

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

TexasCadet

Quote from: Pulsar on May 24, 2014, 09:47:59 PM
the patterns change faster than the wars...

If I recall correctly, we haven't officially declared war since World War II. Korea was a "police action", in Vietnam we were "advisors", etc.
So, we haven't had a war in over 70 years! [/sarcasm]

Quote from: CyBorg on May 25, 2014, 01:08:02 AM
When I first saw the camouflage that Royal Australian Navy personnel wear aboard ship, I thought "what the heck use do they get from that?"

It was then pointed out to me that such colours/patterns are very good for having the kind of dirt they would get aboard ship not be the "magnet" that Mike describes.



But...as for Civil Air Patrol, and this will never, ever happen, regardless of colour, it might be useful (and simpler) to have one with epaulettes and we could wear our standard shoulder marks on it, leather aircrew-type patch (like the AF tried) and MAJCOM patch.  We would look much less like walking billboards, there would be much less sewing and all those who scream blue murder about "distinctiveness" would be sated (a little humour there).

I like it. I have seen CAP members with patches all over, and they look like walking rainbows. This looks a lot less flashy. Unfortunately, the epaulets would never be authorized. Maybe we could get something other than ultramarine blue, though.

SilentPhantom

I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...
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Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...

My choice would be plain green BDU's, readily available online.  It would give the flavour of the "pickle suit," a nod to our history.
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Panache

Quote from: CyBorg on May 30, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...

My choice would be plain green BDU's, readily available online.  It would give the flavour of the "pickle suit," a nod to our history.

(shudder)

I hated those pickle suits when I was a cadet...

SilentPhantom

Quote from: Panache on May 30, 2014, 07:31:22 AM
Quote from: CyBorg on May 30, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...

My choice would be plain green BDU's, readily available online.  It would give the flavour of the "pickle suit," a nod to our history.

(shudder)



I hated those pickle suits when I was a cadet...




^+1
Yeah, we'd look awfull in those 'pinkle suits'  lol
C/2dLt

Garibaldi

Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 30, 2014, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 30, 2014, 07:31:22 AM
Quote from: CyBorg on May 30, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...

My choice would be plain green BDU's, readily available online.  It would give the flavour of the "pickle suit," a nod to our history.

(shudder)



I hated those pickle suits when I was a cadet...




^+1
Yeah, we'd look awfull in those 'pinkle suits'  lol

OOO! OOO! OG jungle fatigues!
Still a major after all these years.
ES dude, leadership ossifer, publik affaires
Opinionated and wrong 99% of the time about all things

SilentPhantom

Quote from: Garibaldi on May 30, 2014, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 30, 2014, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 30, 2014, 07:31:22 AM
Quote from: CyBorg on May 30, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
I think CAP should just stick with the BDUs, the only problem with that is BDUs are dissapearing. ACUs have an awful pattern and with look terrible with our ultramarine nametapes and insignia. I do like the new Multicam though...

My choice would be plain green BDU's, readily available online.  It would give the flavour of the "pickle suit," a nod to our history.

(shudder)



I hated those pickle suits when I was a cadet...




^+1
Yeah, we'd look awfull in those 'pinkle suits'  lol

OOO! OOO! OG jungle fatigues!

lol if we wear those NHQ'll start sending us off to do SAREXs in Vietnam
C/2dLt

LSThiker

Quote from: SilentPhantom on May 30, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
lol if we wear those NHQ'll start sending us off to do SAREXs in Vietnam

Been to Viet Nam.  Nice place.  Just do not wonder too far off the trail :)