Is this Really Appropriate?

Started by Eagle400, April 04, 2007, 04:26:27 AM

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flyguy06

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Quote from: Al Sayre on April 04, 2007, 06:25:13 AM
Nice of you to tell us what we think flyguy06.  

Different people have different tastes in music.  I personally don't care for 99% of what RapI have heard, but there is some that is ok.  

It's the whole Gangsta' culture that I object to, and what I really dislike is when I have to listen to someone else's music rattling the windows in my car or my house as they drive down the street, and I don't particularly care what they are listening to.  If I wanted to hear their music I'd steal their stereo.  If someone wants to listen to rap fine, just don't force me to listen also.  

Have a little common courtesy.

I agree with you. I dont like music that defames our women or prootes violence. ut I am 38 years old. nfortunantly, thats what young people listen too. Its a cultural thing. I also dont like people playing their music loud. I gave someone a ticket for that a few months ago as a matter of fcat.

But in this particular video we are discussing, I idnt see any "Gangsta" ra as you put it. Ther ewas nothing derogatory or negative. No cursing, no defaming anyone. It was very clean.

Yeah, I dont like the gansta culture either, but isnt it amazing how the gangster culture wasnt anissue when it was in the inner city, but now that it is spreading to the suburbs, now all of a sudden its a problem.

Becks

Yeah, Im going to have to vote that while stupid (I have seen it on youtube prior to this), its pretty harmless. 

BBATW

Flying Pig

HAAAAA ;D  You gotta love Ca Wing!  That was funny.

RogueLeader

Quote from: lordmonar on April 04, 2007, 04:38:45 AM
Quote from: 12211985 on April 04, 2007, 04:34:31 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on April 04, 2007, 04:28:32 AMAre you offended by it?
Yes, sir.  Why?  Because they were wearing blue service dress uniforms.  I wouldn't have minded had they worn civies. 

Take a chill pill.  I've seen AD people do better and more "explicit language" videos.   Seeing as how this video is over 4 years old....it's a little late to be asking these sort of questions.
Even though it's over 4 years old, with youtube, it has a lot more exposure.
Good bad, or in between, I don't know.
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pixelwonk

Even though the troll is suspended, we're still talking about this stupid thread...

JohnKachenmeister

I liked it.  I hate the "Gangsta" culture, so making mock of it by cadets is OK by me (Like that video of the rich white guys singing a rap lyric like a folk song on the golf course)

The cadets had to work hard, as a team, to produce it.

Order me another Hulka-burger, and... "Lighten up, Francis!" 
Another former CAP officer

RogueLeader

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 04, 2007, 07:18:01 PM

Order me another Hulka-burger, and... "Lighten up!" 
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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ColonelJack

Speaking of inappropriate ... anyone here ever see the "Hitler Raps" video?

Hilarious ... and very, very inappropriate.

Jack
Jack Bagley, Ed. D.
Lt. Col., CAP (now inactive)
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Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
Honorary Admiral, Navy of the Republic of Molossia

RogueLeader

Quote from: Al Sayre on April 04, 2007, 06:25:13 AM
 If I wanted to hear their music I'd steal their stereo.  
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Major Lord

Yes, it was funny, and appropriate. The only offensive thing in it was the pudgy "Hard Core" 1st Sgt ( and his unauthorized whistle, maybe a little bit) 

All RAP music is funny. Remember the Acronym: Retards Attempting Poety

These kind of things are a basic part of the Cadet Programs culture. Take a chill pill. Remeber, Ronald Reagan, the finest President ever to live, danced in uniform on film!

Capt Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

mprokosch11

We watched this video at encampment, there wasn't one person in that room not laughing.

I hope Capt. Brodsky doesn't see this, he'll find out we wasted some of our time at encampment.  :o
C/Capt Matthew A. Prokosch, CAP
New York Wing
Utica Cadet Squadron (NER-NY-162)

Chappie

Inappropriate????  I think not....I saw it the first time the year it was released at the CAWG CPC.  It was funny then and funny now (especially when you see cadets there who are now Senior Members).   There have been some outstanding videos produced by now former CAWG Cadets that are part of the "tradition" of CPC. 
Disclaimer:  Not to be confused with the other user that goes by "Chappy"   :)

Stonewall

Yep, I thought it was real creative and, if nothing else, fun.  And to be quite honest with you, you could probably throw in some leadership skills and experience as well. 

As a cadet, we made funny videos and did skits like that, albeit without computer software and support.

I remember at my first encampment we had to do skits in front of all the brass, to include an AF general of some sort.  We did a CAP rap skit that rocked the house.

"we're not the Beastie Boys or Run DMC, we're the Air Force...AUXILIARY...CAP"  And it went on for like 3 minutes.  Of course it was done with a "human beat box".
Serving since 1987.

floridacyclist

Quote from: LtCol Hayden on April 04, 2007, 02:10:30 PM
To me, from a completely non cap, professional videographer point of view (with former Air Force veteran thoughts)...

I think the video is fine - it was done a while ago, but this is what I saw:

Cadets got together and worked on something - what we saw was a few minutes, what it actually took to do, took a lot longer - this means that the cadets worked a long time together doing something fun - positive and though it won't win any mainstream awards - it was actually quite good.

For once, I agree with something that Col Hayden wrote and I applaud him for pointing it out.

These kids were rather creative and have a lot of talent; maybe not commercial-grade, but who does? The top .000001% of wannabe stars that actually make it?.

So often kids are sitting around doing something that is totally non-productive and non-creative that when I see something like this I want to stand and clap; they give me hope for the future that the next generation won't be nothing but a bunch of couch-bound Xbox-jockeys.

Heaven forbid some of our cadets get together and do something fun that requires teamwork, leadership, initiative and all those other mumbo-jumbo things that we are supposedly trying to teach them.  I hear the sky crumbling and tearing open now. Oh wait...that's some of those people that have absolutely no respect for others, riding around with 1,000 watts of Raw Bass Power thumping out the back...totally different from these kids whose most active role in "forcing us to listen to their trash" is posting a video on Youtube for us to voluntarily download of our own free will and play on our own crappy PC sound systems.

I say Bully for them.
Gene Floyd, Capt CAP
Wearer of many hats, master of none (but senior-rated in two)
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RogueLeader

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Major_Chuck

Inappropriate.  Not in the least.  I see a group of cadets having fun,  aren't we supposed to have that in CAP too?

There are way bigger issues than this to worry about.
Chuck Cranford
SGT, TNCO VA OCS
Virginia Army National Guard

afgeo4

Quote from: penguinmaster113 on April 04, 2007, 09:03:53 PM
We watched this video at encampment, there wasn't one person in that room not laughing.

I hope Capt. Brodsky doesn't see this, he'll find out we wasted some of our time at encampment.  :o
You weren't wasting time. It was a class on Public Affairs!
GEORGE LURYE

Pylon

Quote from: afgeo4 on April 05, 2007, 04:45:13 PMYou weren't wasting time. It was a class on Public Affairs!

...says mighty-mighty LOG.   ;)
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

c172drv

I think that these cadets should be applauded for getting together and pulling off a fun video.  As LTC Hayden said it takes a long time to put something like that together.  I don't see that they did this with any ill feelings towards the uniform and they should be given as much latitude as we would give a servicemember.  They do give stuff up for the right to wear the uniform.  They give up nights during the week, time they use to study for test and weekends when we go out and train or participate.  Yes, they get stuff out of it.  A sense of being part of a team and that team should its stuff in making that video.  Let them make some more, not my type of music but it isn't my choice since it isn't my video.

John
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Stonewall

John Jester?  You're still around?  Its been years, like 10 years since I've seen or heard from you.

Kirt Bowden here, used to be in NATCAP wing.  Down in FL now.  How you been?
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