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Operations => Safety => Topic started by: James Shaw on January 10, 2017, 09:29:12 PM

Title: Online Medical Training
Post by: James Shaw on January 10, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
As part of my full time gig, I have a "First Aid" center that is staffed by 3 full time nurses and a First Aid Supervisor that handles the Workman's Comp and scheduling for any follow up treatment. They are all very good at what they do.

I also have Supervisor's in my facility and Emergency Response Personnel for Hazmat and Confined Space Rescue.

I have always been a proponent of Online Education and have taken many online classes myself.......except Medical Classes such as First Aid, CPR, or AED.

So here is my question.

What are your thoughts on the subject of doing ONLINE First Aid, CPR, or AED training? My staff have always done theirs in person with a Third Party Trainer coming to the site and conducting the training. I continue to receive calls and emails about ONLINE training for these areas. I am trying to keep an open mind but am biased to the in person training.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Online Medical Training
Post by: Eclipse on January 10, 2017, 09:32:40 PM
Quote from: capsafety on January 10, 2017, 09:29:12 PMWhat are your thoughts on the subject of doing ONLINE First Aid, CPR, or AED training? My staff have always done theirs in person with a Third Party Trainer coming to the site and conducting the training. I continue to receive calls and emails about ONLINE training for these areas. I am trying to keep an open mind but am biased to the in person training.

What are your thoughts?

There are some things which are appropriate for online classes, First Aid isn't one of them.

I could see possibly recurrent / refresher being done online, but not the initial.
Title: Re: Online Medical Training
Post by: kwe1009 on January 10, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
There are alot of companies that offer online First Aid and CPR training but I think there are about as useful as an online welding class.  Yes you can see it done properly and maybe even have a virtual practice but there is nothing like hands-on training.

I'm a big fan of online training for knowledge subject but for skills like CPR (and welding), it has to be in person to be useful in my opinion.
Title: Re: Online Medical Training
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on January 10, 2017, 11:36:05 PM
I am not particular to online classes.

As an American Heart Association instructor, I see students taking classes with instructors are more fluid and can apply the necessary skills in a more coherent, fluent fashion.

The American Heart Association also offers online classes, but to provide AHA cards for these students, the students have to demonstrate their skills to an instructor. About 3 out of 4 students taking online classes I test, show to me they need help. At first they would stop after each little skill for me to tell them they have mastered the skill. They do not show continuity.

In other words, students that I teach the class, as well as other instructors, go in an "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8" step.

Students that I ask to demonstrate the skills go in an "1 pause, 2 pause, 3 pause, 4 pause, 5 pause, 6 pause, 7 pause, 8 pause." Each pause expecting me to say "it was good, next step." I have to deprogram them telling "do not pause, go into the next step in a fluid motion." Or "you are taking too much time to do that skill." Etc.

:-\

I am afraid those students using online classes with no instructors may be learning the skills individually may be having the same problem. That is probably why state Health Departments specify that BLS classes have to be taught by instructors to have valid cards for hospitals and state summer camps.

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