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Started by usafcap1, June 26, 2012, 05:26:21 AM

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usafcap1

I recently found out that if you are a cadet and over the age of 18 you can not do encampments or fly via O-rides why is that?
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lordmonar

You can go to encampment....but you can't do CAP AFAM O-rides...because the USAF says no one over 18.
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AngelWings

Quote from: usafcap1 on June 26, 2012, 05:26:21 AM
I recently found out that if you are a cadet and over the age of 18 you can not do encampments or fly via O-rides why is that?
To make you want to go to the dark side, which supposedly has cookies.

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Walkman

Quote from: AngelWings on June 26, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
To make you want to go to the dark side, which supposedly has cookies.

Not cookies, donuts.

EMT-83

I hate to see cadets turn 18 and not have taken all their O-flights.

We start reminding them months in advance, but they often never get around scheduling any flights. Then suddenly, it's too late.

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Huey Driver

Quote from: EMT-83 on June 26, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
I hate to see cadets turn 18 and not have taken all their O-flights.

We start reminding them months in advance, but they often never get around scheduling any flights. Then suddenly, it's too late.

That is unfortunate, but how often is it the cadet's fault that they didn't schedule O-Flights?
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Eclipse

Quote from: EMT-83 on June 26, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
I hate to see cadets turn 18 and not have taken all their O-flights.

We start reminding them months in advance, but they often never get around scheduling any flights. Then suddenly, it's too late.

Months in advance of the 18th birthday, or months in advance of the flights?  Most cadets are in CAP 3-5 years by 18, if they haven't gotten
a ride in by then, they aren't likely to care.

Assuming there are plans and a functioning program, my experience is that if they don't fly the first year, they probably won't fly, as they probably
aren't interested.

"That Others May Zoom"

Struts

On the matter of encampment; section 9-3 in CAPR 52-16 doesn't say anything about having to be under 18.

On O-Flights; section 8-5 in CAPR 52-16 says that you cadets over 18 can not participate in cadet O-flights, but they can still participate in military O-flights.

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spacecommand

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Flying opportunities still exist though, cadets 18 years + can  start training as mission scanners and observers.

Offtopic, but you're a C/A1C and a skills evaluator?

EMT-83

Quote from: JerseyCadet on June 26, 2012, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on June 26, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
I hate to see cadets turn 18 and not have taken all their O-flights.

We start reminding them months in advance, but they often never get around scheduling any flights. Then suddenly, it's too late.

That is unfortunate, but how often is it the cadet's fault that they didn't schedule O-Flights?

Well, there's always one plane out on the ramp, and often two. At every squadron meeting an announcement is made as to which pilots are available that week.

Quote from: Eclipse on June 26, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Months in advance of the 18th birthday, or months in advance of the flights?  Most cadets are in CAP 3-5 years by 18, if they haven't gotten a ride in by then, they aren't likely to care.

Assuming there are plans and a functioning program, my experience is that if they don't fly the first year, they probably won't fly, as they probably aren't interested.

Very true, some cadets simply aren't interested in flying. Then there's the "my birthday is Thursday, can I do three O-flights by then" cadets.

Maybe because O-flights are always available, it's no big deal. Cadets that come over from non-flying squadrons are definitely more excited about going up.