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Started by RiverAux, April 19, 2007, 04:15:00 AM

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RiverAux

Well, I've found a "Civil Air Patrol" that we need to make sure that we are not mistaken for.  Where?  Colombia! 
The item below is from the AmeriCares website http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/EKOI-72D36B?OpenDocument
QuoteBraving risks to deliver aid to Colombia

Colombia has endured one of the longest ongoing civil wars in recent memory: Darfur is the only other area with more internally displaced persons due to violent strife. Decades of conflict have included warfare waged against defenseless people, and resulted in the forced displacement of entire communities. The basic human needs of food, water and shelter are a daily struggle for those who have been displaced from their homes, and access to medical attention is even more difficult.

Responding to these tragic conditions, AmeriCares has been working with the Order of Malta for the last eight years, delivering medicines, medical relief and other aid to help provide the access to health care that Colombia's struggling populations so desperately need.

AmeriCares provides the Order of Malta with donated medical supplies including surgical provisions such as anesthesia and basic medicines every two months. The Order of Malta distributes the supplies to hospitals, clinics and medical facilities, as well as Bogotá's Civil Air Patrol (PAC), an intrepid group of pilots and physicians who fly and boat into remote territories to help those in need of medical attention. PAC's experienced medical teams are able to work almost anywhere, performing major surgeries in a portable E.R. tent in less-than-ideal conditions.

"The work these physicians are doing goes far beyond the call," says Hector Emmanuelli, program manager for AmeriCares. "They face unbelievable danger just to get here, work all hours under the most primitive conditions, and really depend on partners such as AmeriCares to provide them with the meds and materials they need to make a difference to people in dire need."

During a medical mission to Mosquera, PAC traveled by boat to a community isolated by mangroves. Doctors saw more than 1,100 patients in that time and performed over 200 surgeries, sometimes long into the night, essentially working 24 hours a day, taking only short breaks.

On that particular mission, medicines and medical supplies provided by AmeriCares supported a variety of surgeries, including a cataract operation that cured the blindness of a woman in her sixties; a procedure to remove a cyst from a man's hand; and foot surgery for a young boy who had been wounded by a machete.

These people and many more like them receive the health care they need to live and survive due to the strength of AmeriCares and its trusted partner, the Order of Malta, who are undaunted by the challenging situations that arise in a country suffering from a long-standing conflict.
Any other CAP's out there we can add to the list?

JC004

Well, this CAP is abbreviated "PAC," so it can't be ours.

There is always the Australian Civil Air Patrol...

Major Carrales

Quote from: RiverAux on April 19, 2007, 04:15:00 AM
Well, I've found a "Civil Air Patrol" that we need to make sure that we are not mistaken for.  Where?  Colombia! 

Their WEB PAGE...

http://patrullaerea.org/


QuoteMarch 21, 2006

An aiplane from the Patrulla Aerea (Air Patrol) crashed in Mosquera, Nariño, a small and remote town in the south west part of Colombia. Immediately after takeoff, the plane, a Cessna, was pushed by heavy crosswind, and crashed into a house, killing a boy, his mother and a doctor on board. The pilot, Rafael Arenas, aged 42, who had been working for 10 years on the Air Patrol, survived with burns on 90% of his body, but died later in the Intensive Care unit of El Valle Universitary hospital.

The Air Patrol is a Colombian ONG, created and staffed by pilots and doctors to bring medical care to people in the most abandoned regions of the country.


-from http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Small_airplane_crashes_in_Colombia
Wiki news


This is not one of their better moments... (Spanish...but watch the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWC2XJYgcJU
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Major Carrales

Spanish readers will get a kick out of this article from... http://www.abc.es/
A Spanish Language e-news service.

Notice that they refer to the Civil Air Patrol (the organization of which we are a member) as La Patrulla Aérea Civil de EE.UU, basically the US Civil Air Patrol. I also found Tío Sam (Uncle Sam) and  el Pentágono (The Pentagon) to be interesting.

This article discusses CAP's role in Homeland Security, how USCG helicopters serve as "Kamikazes" and lots about CAP (annula budge of 30 million, taking pictures of installations and its Cessna Fleet)


Quote«Kamikazes» voluntarios
18-1-2007 02:55:14
POR P. RODRÍGUEZ CORRESPONSAL

WASHINGTON. La Patrulla Aérea Civil de EE.UU. -una institución de pilotos voluntarios cuyo origen se remonta al comienzo de la Segunda Guerra Mundial- tiene una larga historia de vuelos de vigilancia y rescate. Pero tras el 11-S, esta organización con 56.000 miembros dedicados a cooperar con autoridades locales y el Pentágono ha encontrado un nuevo tipo de actividad: actuar como señuelos para el entrenamiento militar de los cazas, helicópteros y baterías de misiles en alerta permanente sobre lugares estratégicos como la capital federal o Nueva York. De noche, mientras el resto de sus vecinos y amigos descansan, estos civiles voluntarios -algunos con experiencia militares, otros acérrimos fanáticos de la aviación- se dedican a pilotar avionetas Cessna en espacios aéreos restringidos como la zona que en el centro de Washington abarca la Casa Blanca, el Congreso y, al otro lado del río Potomac, la sede del Pentágono.

Durante estas incursiones en el papel de potenciales «kamikazes», estos pilotos son perseguidos por helicópteros de la Guardia Costera, mientras baterías de misiles tierra-aire les siguen puntualmente a la espera de que aviones F-16 rematen maniobras de interceptación.

Paul Gardella, ingeniero informático en su vida más aburrida, explicaba ayer al «Washington Post» su satisfacción por ayudar al Tío Sam con estas peculiares maniobras aéreas. Acordándose de que durante su tiempo de servicio en la «Navy» tuvo tiempo para actuar del lado de los buenos.

Solamente un pequeño grupo de voluntarios es utilizado para actuar como señuelo. El resto de los miembros de la Patrulla Aérea Civil se dedican a otras actividades como fotografiar instalaciones estratégicas, el rastreo de aviones accidentados o el transporte de ayuda humanitaria a zonas aflijidas por catástrofes naturales.

Medio millar de avionetas

La Patrulla Aérea Civil recibe al año un estipendio de treinta millones de dólares para aviones, combustibles y otros gastos. En la actualidad, esta institución auxiliar del Ejército del Aire dispone de medio millar de avionetas Cessna, considerada como la mayor flota del mundo. Pero la clave está en el carácter voluntario de sus pilotos, que se tienen que costear sus propios uniformes y pagar una cuota anual. Un precio que a ellos les parece más que justificado para satisfacer su peliculera «necesidad de velocidad».

Gardella, que no puede explicar los resultados de sus incursiones por evidentes razones de seguridad nacional, admite que estas escaramuzas logran subirle tanto la adrenalina hasta el punto de que cuando termina no puede dormir y suele marcharse directamente a la oficina. Mientras que sus compañeros de trabajo no acaban de entender la gracia de estas aventuras nocturnas.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Major Carrales

Basic Translation of the above...

«Kamikazes» voluntarios
18-1-2007 02:55:14
POR P. RODRÍGUEZ CORRESPONSAL

WASHINGTON. THE US Civil Air Patrol, an institution of Volunteer Pilots begun during WWII, has a long history of vigilant rescue flights. 

But in the Post 9-11 world, this dedicated 56,000 member strong organization is coordinating with the Pentagon to encounter a new type of activity: as decoys for training against the sort of thing that happened in the National Capital and New York.


At Night, while we and our neighbors rest, these Civilian Volunteers, some with military experience some aviation fanatics pilot Cessna aircraft in restricted areas; like Washington,DC... The White house, the Capital, and the other side of the Potomac, the side with the Pentagon.

During these incursions as potential paper "kamikazes," there pilots were pursued by Coast Guard Helicopters,  batteries of missiles and F-16 Fighters that rushed to meet them..

Paul Gardella, explained in the Washington Post his satisfaction with the help these activities do for Uncle Sam. Former Navy, he like being on the side of the "Good Guys."

Only a small part of the Civil Air Patrol takes part in this. The rest dedicate themselves to taking photos of strange installations, rescuing people from accidental crashes or transferring supplies/people to places of Natural disaster.

Medio millar de avionetas

CAP receives 30 million dollars annually for its equipment and expenses. Actually, this auxiliary uses half a thousand aircraft, the such largest fleet in the world. The Trent actually lies on the character of the volunteer spirit of pilots, who have to buy their own uniforms and pay annual dues. A small price to pay to meet their "need for speed."

Gardella, who cannot discuss the results of the exercise for National Security reasons, admits this gets his adrenaline pumping to the point where he cannot sleep. All though his friends at work don't know much about his nocturnal activities.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

O-Rex

I'll bet you "Bable-fished" the article, and then cleaned up some of the words & syntax, right?

I do it all the time, beats doing it from scratch  ;)

¡Viva La Patrulla Aérea Civil de EE.UU.!

LTC_Gadget

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 19, 2007, 05:44:42 AM
>rescuing people from accidental crashes

OK, I guess this is explained by the Babelfishing, but, as for crashes, outside of demolition derbies, are there any other kind?   ;D
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

jimmydeanno

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 20, 2007, 03:14:41 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on April 19, 2007, 05:44:42 AM
>rescuing people from accidental crashes

OK, I guess this is explained by the Babelfishing, but, as for crashes, outside of demolition derbies, are there any other kind?   ;D

The 9/11 type of 'crashes'...hardly 'accidental'.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Major Carrales

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 20, 2007, 03:14:41 AM
Quote from: Major Carrales on April 19, 2007, 05:44:42 AM
>rescuing people from accidental crashes

OK, I guess this is explained by the Babelfishing, but, as for crashes, outside of demolition derbies, are there any other kind?   ;D

Something here is lost in translation.  This section actually deals with the "normal" activties of CAP aside from the missions described in the article.

QuoteEl resto de los miembros de la Patrulla Aérea Civil se dedican a otras actividades como fotografiar instalaciones estratégicas, el rastreo de aviones accidentados o el transporte de ayuda humanitaria a zonas aflijidas por catástrofes naturales.

I guess it is best translated...

QuoteThe rest of the membership dedicate their time to photographing remotes installations, saving downed aircraft or the transportation of humanitarian aide to places affected by Natural Disasters.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

AlphaSigOU

So here's our current tally so far:

Australia: Civil Air Patrol (SAR/DR organization)
Brazil: Patrulha Aérea Civil (strictly a SAR/DR organization)
Colombia: Patrulla Aérea Civil (mostly a medical relief organization)

Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

Al Sayre

What about all of the Cadet programs that participate in IACE?
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

capchiro

Other than the Accidental Crashes, there is always the dreaded Pilot Error Crashes, which seem to remove any possiblity of accident from the equation and places the blame on poor old dead Peter pilot that has a heck of a time defending himself from the grave.  More truth than humor, unfortunately..
Lt. Col. Harry E. Siegrist III, CAP
Commander
Sweetwater Comp. Sqdn.
GA154

Major Carrales

Brazil...

http://www.pacmirassol.com.br/

Really does use the CAP logo save altered for BRAZIL.  Don't let Vangaurd know!!! :o
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

JC004

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 01:15:41 PM
Brazil...

http://www.pacmirassol.com.br/

Really does use the CAP logo save altered for BRAZIL.  Don't let Vangaurd know!!! :o

Now THAT is stolen.   :o

Major Carrales



Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?



The website says this was founded in the 1950s?  Could someone from Brazil seen th eidea in 50s era CAP?

One website claims that there is a Civil Air Patrol like organization in 179 countries.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

JC004

Well now I see and support Pineda's plan.  We put our "U.S." stuff on, make the airplanes less US military, then go invade Brazil with all we've got!  SWEET!  That'll teach them to use our seal.

Major Carrales

I actually find this a bit fascinating...the idea of CAP around the world.  I can assume that most of them are not instrumentalities of their various Air Forces.

The Brazilian site claims the origin of CAP in England during WWII (if my Portugese holds up, I actually find reading it more useful than "babelfishing it" and translating it from E-ENGLISH to ENGLISH)
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

alexalvarez

Does French Polynesia have a CAP?
Ch, Lt. Col., Alex Alvarez
Alamo Composite Squadron, Bexar County Squadron, San Antonio, Texas
Group V Chaplain
Mitchell 1967, Earhart 1967, C/ Lt. Col. 1969
Fifty Year Member 2014

LTC_Gadget

So, I wonder when the other CAPs will get a 'cease and desist' letter for obviously co-opting parts of our corporate logo?   :D ???

Rhetorical, idle musings...

V/R,
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:29:26 PM
I actually find this a bit fascinating...the idea of CAP around the world.  I can assume that most of them are not instrumentalities of their various Air Forces.

The Brazilian site claims the origin of CAP in England during WWII (if my Portugese holds up, I actually find reading it more useful than "babelfishing it" and translating it from E-ENGLISH to ENGLISH)

If you scratch the the surface a little deeper CAP does have some of its roots in what is now disaster preparedness and civil defense with the British Air Raid Protection corps.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: Al Sayre on April 20, 2007, 12:33:04 PM
What about all of the Cadet programs that participate in IACE?

For the most part, cadet programs in other countries are an extension of their military services and usually have nothing to do with emergency services/search and rescue, with us being the exception.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

LtCol White

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:18:31 PM


Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?



The website says this was founded in the 1950s?  Could someone from Brazil seen th eidea in 50s era CAP?

One website claims that there is a Civil Air Patrol like organization in 179 countries.

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny....."Of course you know, this means war!"

LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

^^  Add to legislative agenda: declare war on Brazil.

Hawk200

Quote from: AlphaSigOU on April 21, 2007, 12:25:07 AM
If you scratch the the surface a little deeper CAP does have some of its roots in what is now disaster preparedness and civil defense with the British Air Raid Protection corps.

Which would have some remarkable similarities with our own roots. An example of similar organizational evolution.


Major Carrales

Quote from: AlphaSigOU on April 21, 2007, 12:27:37 AM
Quote from: Al Sayre on April 20, 2007, 12:33:04 PM
What about all of the Cadet programs that participate in IACE?

For the most part, cadet programs in other countries are an extension of their military services and usually have nothing to do with emergency services/search and rescue, with us being the exception.

I think this is a strength of our program.  The idea that Cadets can serve a purpose beyond merely the "drill and ceremonies" and "customs and courtesies."  That adds an element..and a bit of an optional one...to being a CADET in CAP.  In fact, it may be that elements that eventually pulls me from PAO into CADET PROGRAMS.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Major Carrales

Quote from: LtCol White on April 21, 2007, 12:34:15 AM





In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny....."Of course you know, this means war!"

Actually I think it was Graucho Marx that said that first (in DUCK SOUP I think), but Bugs made it famous.

I initially looked at this (looked for it) when the Major General mentioned it when first presenting the US Civil Air Patrol Tape.  I did not find it then.  When I did find it and saw that it really was identical to ours in symbolism, it left me wondering... "what is the significance of this?"

It also reminded me a bit of when the Soviets captured some B-29s and rebuilt them...complete with battle damage and repairs.

"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

O-Rex

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 20, 2007, 05:59:19 PM
So, I wonder when the other CAPs will get a 'cease and desist' letter for obviously co-opting parts of our corporate logo?   :D ???

Rhetorical, idle musings...

V/R,

Or even worse, Brazilian CAP members will have to order from Vanguard, and pay 14.11 "Reales" for shipping! >:D

muito caro, meus amigos. . . .

alexalvarez

Do these other CAP's also order from Vanguard?
Ch, Lt. Col., Alex Alvarez
Alamo Composite Squadron, Bexar County Squadron, San Antonio, Texas
Group V Chaplain
Mitchell 1967, Earhart 1967, C/ Lt. Col. 1969
Fifty Year Member 2014

RogueLeader

Quote from: JC004 on April 20, 2007, 04:21:17 PM
Well now I see and support Pineda's plan.  We put our "U.S." stuff on, make the airplanes less US military, then go invade Brazil with all we've got!  SWEET!  That'll teach them to use our seal.
LMAO
WYWG DP

GRW 3340

LtCol White

Quote from: RogueLeader on April 21, 2007, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: JC004 on April 20, 2007, 04:21:17 PM
Well now I see and support Pineda's plan.  We put our "U.S." stuff on, make the airplanes less US military, then go invade Brazil with all we've got!  SWEET!  That'll teach them to use our seal.
LMAO

Thus the reason for years of all the covert ranger programs within the cadet program.

>:D
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

alamrcn

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:18:31 PM


Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?

Yeah, you'ld think they'd have 13 soccer balls:o
Ok, that was a stereotype and I'm sorry...




Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

LtCol White

Quote from: alamrcn on April 23, 2007, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:18:31 PM


Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?

Yeah, you'ld think they'd have 13 soccer balls:o
Ok, that was a stereotype and I'm sorry...



Was Carmen Miranda ever their National CC?  ::) Ok, REALLY showing my age here.
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

Major Carrales

Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: alamrcn on April 23, 2007, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:18:31 PM


Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?

Yeah, you'ld think they'd have 13 soccer balls:o
Ok, that was a stereotype and I'm sorry...



Was Carmen Miranda ever their National CC?  ::) Ok, REALLY showing my age here.




US CAP...Bananas is OUR Business!!!
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

LtCol White

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 23, 2007, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: alamrcn on April 23, 2007, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on April 20, 2007, 04:18:31 PM


Now, I wonder what the 13 Stars symbolize in the PAC?

Yeah, you'ld think they'd have 13 soccer balls:o
Ok, that was a stereotype and I'm sorry...



Was Carmen Miranda ever their National CC?  ::) Ok, REALLY showing my age here.




US CAP...Bananas is OUR Business!!!

HAHAHA...Priceless!!!!
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

Psicorp

Interesting. 

Give it time and the U.N. will want us all unified (not too difficult given the similarities in seals) and we'll all be be required to purchase powder blue berets.

Hmm...Global Commander, Civil Air Patrol...that's a four star post, right?
Jamie Kahler, Capt., CAP
(C/Lt Col, ret.)
CC
GLR-MI-257

JC004

Quote from: Psicorp on April 23, 2007, 05:16:34 PM
Interesting. 

Give it time and the U.N. will want us all unified (not too difficult given the similarities in seals) and we'll all be be required to purchase powder blue berets.

Hmm...Global Commander, Civil Air Patrol...that's a four star post, right?

Doesn't make it so...Civil, does it?

YAY!  MORE BERETS!

LtCol White

Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: Psicorp on April 23, 2007, 05:16:34 PM
Interesting. 

Give it time and the U.N. will want us all unified (not too difficult given the similarities in seals) and we'll all be be required to purchase powder blue berets.

Hmm...Global Commander, Civil Air Patrol...that's a four star post, right?

Doesn't make it so...Civil, does it?

YAY!  MORE BERETS!

Berets are available with and without fruit.
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JohnKachenmeister

I have a .38 caliber pistol made in Brazil (Brasil?) by the Taurus Manufacturing Company that is an exact duplicate of a Smith and Wesson Chief's Special, only cheaper.

Is anybody picking up on a pattern here?
Another former CAP officer

JC004

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 23, 2007, 06:14:54 PM
I have a .38 caliber pistol made in Brazil (Brasil?) by the Taurus Manufacturing Company that is an exact duplicate of a Smith and Wesson Chief's Special, only cheaper.

Is anybody picking up on a pattern here?

Yeah...that Taurus makes knock-offs.  Their revolvers are alright, but you should get a Springfield XD.  Especially since you are closer to Brazil and more likely to get sent first for the invasion.  I have a feeling it will be BYOW.

PhoenixRisen

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 23, 2007, 06:14:54 PM
I have a .38 caliber pistol made in Brazil (Brasil?) by the Taurus Manufacturing Company that is an exact duplicate of a Smith and Wesson Chief's Special, only cheaper.

Is anybody picking up on a pattern here?

Brazil's trying to take over the world?  :o

LTC_Gadget

Quote from: PhoenixCadet on April 23, 2007, 06:19:42 PM
Brazil's trying to take over the world?  :o

And if they don't fly any better than the guy in the video, at least we don't have to worry about waging an air campaign past the first round of sorties....

V/R,
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

Phillip

Anyone take a look at the Brazil CAP's links page?

The first two links are to cap.gov and the Hock Shop.
Captain

JC004

Quote from: Phillip on April 23, 2007, 07:12:06 PM
Anyone take a look at the Brazil CAP's links page?

The first two links are to cap.gov and the Hock Shop.

!!!  Are we sure this organization truly exists?  I wonder if it wasn't created to make the point for our U.S. tapes...Oh!  Conspiracy theory!  (I'm good at those)   ;D   >:D

LtCol White

I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

LTC_Gadget

Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

JC004

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

OK, I'm sure we can work with that...

jimmydeanno

Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Hmmm...let me look at my map of Brazil:


Giants.

12 Brazilian Cherry Trees.

6 Different Types of fauna.

1 Naval Vesel.

A lot of sticks.





If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JC004

errr...do we wanna mess with those giants?

JohnKachenmeister

Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 23, 2007, 06:14:54 PM
I have a .38 caliber pistol made in Brazil (Brasil?) by the Taurus Manufacturing Company that is an exact duplicate of a Smith and Wesson Chief's Special, only cheaper.

Is anybody picking up on a pattern here?

Yeah...that Taurus makes knock-offs.  Their revolvers are alright, but you should get a Springfield XD.  Especially since you are closer to Brazil and more likely to get sent first for the invasion.  I have a feeling it will be BYOW.

The Taurus is just my carry-around piece.  My real gun is a Springfield Armory M-1911A1.  I've carried the G.I. issue .45 since I was a cherry-cheeked 18-year-old brand-new Navy hospital corpsman. 
Another former CAP officer

JohnKachenmeister

When I bought my new house and applied for insurance, the Insurance Telephone Lady asked my if I had a "Security Alarm System."  I told her I had a 70-pound dog and a .45 caliber pistol, what did I need an alarm for?

The dog is really friendly but barks loud.  The guy with the .45 doesn't bark at all, but is very mean.
Another former CAP officer

JC004

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 23, 2007, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on April 23, 2007, 06:14:54 PM
I have a .38 caliber pistol made in Brazil (Brasil?) by the Taurus Manufacturing Company that is an exact duplicate of a Smith and Wesson Chief's Special, only cheaper.

Is anybody picking up on a pattern here?

Yeah...that Taurus makes knock-offs.  Their revolvers are alright, but you should get a Springfield XD.  Especially since you are closer to Brazil and more likely to get sent first for the invasion.  I have a feeling it will be BYOW.

The Taurus is just my carry-around piece.  My real gun is a Springfield Armory M-1911A1.  I've carried the G.I. issue .45 since I was a cherry-cheeked 18-year-old brand-new Navy hospital corpsman. 

mmmm M1911.   ;D  <3  I guess a M1911 can be a bit big for a carry piece depending on your shape.  I was hoping that I'd look more like my avatar so that I can carry a S&W 500 (in the really big frame).   >:D  My service model XD isn't small, but it conceals ok, and we're an open carry state anyway (although I prefer it stay hidden). 

fyrfitrmedic

MAJ Tony Rowley CAP
Lansdowne PA USA
"The passion of rescue reveals the highest dynamic of the human soul." -- Kurt Hahn

JC004

Quote from: fyrfitrmedic on April 23, 2007, 11:11:29 PM
...and what else does Brazil have?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caipirinha

Have you tried it, or do we need to fly a delegation down?

LtCol White

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

So we have Brazil with nuts and WMD......doesn't that sound like the same reason we invaded iraq the second time????

LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

So we have Brazil with nuts and WMD......doesn't that sound like the same reason we invaded iraq the second time????



Well THIS country has alcohol...(see above wikipedia link)

LtCol White

Quote from: JC004 on April 24, 2007, 12:35:34 AM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

So we have Brazil with nuts and WMD......doesn't that sound like the same reason we invaded iraq the second time????



Well THIS country has alcohol...(see above wikipedia link)

So....drunk nuts with WMD??
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:37:09 AM
Quote from: JC004 on April 24, 2007, 12:35:34 AM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

So we have Brazil with nuts and WMD......doesn't that sound like the same reason we invaded iraq the second time????



Well THIS country has alcohol...(see above wikipedia link)

So....drunk nuts with WMD??

Yup.  Seems like a serious threat to national security.

LtCol White

Quote from: JC004 on April 24, 2007, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:37:09 AM
Quote from: JC004 on April 24, 2007, 12:35:34 AM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 24, 2007, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: LTC_Gadget on April 23, 2007, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 23, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: LtCol White on April 23, 2007, 07:17:52 PM
I bet Brazil has weapons of mass destruction!!!

that's right!  and...and...what else does Brazil have?

Um.... nuts??

So we have Brazil with nuts and WMD......doesn't that sound like the same reason we invaded iraq the second time????



Well THIS country has alcohol...(see above wikipedia link)

So....drunk nuts with WMD??

Yup.  Seems like a serious threat to national security.

Guess its time to put all the cadet sq's on 48hr deployment notice. TP is gonna have to send emails to a lot of school principals. Can't have the cadets getting detention for missing PE when they are busy invading Brazil.  I guess the President could just make the announcement that "The US CAP cadet forces presently engaged in hostile actions against the unstable and dangerous government of Brazil are granted a Presidential Pardon from all classes and detentions resulting from absences due to deployment and the national security needs of the country"  ;D
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

mikeylikey

^^^ Guess we should send in the special forces CAP RANGERS.  Then the cadets can have at it.  General Colgan.....permission to begin cyber attacking?  Does Brazil even have internet capabilities?
What's up monkeys?

LtCol White

Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 12:55:21 AM
^^^ Guess we should send in the special forces CAP RANGERS.  Then the cadets can have at it.  General Colgan.....permission to begin cyber attacking?  Does Brazil even have internet capabilities?

We'll need the USCG AUX to transport our fleet of vans down to brazil. The rangers will be using the airvans to get there. One of our Admirals will have to coordinate this move.
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 12:55:21 AM
^^^ Guess we should send in the special forces CAP RANGERS.  Then the cadets can have at it.  General Colgan.....permission to begin cyber attacking?  Does Brazil even have internet capabilities?

Do it.  Step one: make them use eServices.  MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   >:D

LtCol White

Quote from: JC004 on April 24, 2007, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 12:55:21 AM
^^^ Guess we should send in the special forces CAP RANGERS.  Then the cadets can have at it.  General Colgan.....permission to begin cyber attacking?  Does Brazil even have internet capabilities?

Do it.  Step one: make them use eServices.  MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   >:D

Launch WIMMRS !!!!
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

LTC_Gadget

I realize that it may be a little late in the thread for the redirect, plus I really hate to take the wind outta Lt. Col White's comment as it was  really funny. But I really did mean Brazil Nuts -- agricultural product:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_nut

A tip o' the hat to LtCol White... again...

Anyway, back to the mission planning table to see what I can learn; contribute..  We should also be checking/verifying our supply lines. 

V/R,
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

alexalvarez

We can even use pigeons for reconnaissance.
Ch, Lt. Col., Alex Alvarez
Alamo Composite Squadron, Bexar County Squadron, San Antonio, Texas
Group V Chaplain
Mitchell 1967, Earhart 1967, C/ Lt. Col. 1969
Fifty Year Member 2014

LtCol White

Crap....I don't know if we have a parental permission slip that covers overseas combat.
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

JC004

Quote from: alexalvarez on April 24, 2007, 01:29:52 AM
We can even use pigeons for reconnaissance.

Any difference between those and a 172?   ;D

PhoenixRisen

Oh, oh, I wanna be a Cadet Recon Dude!  Where do I volunteer? 


*Please don't say e-Services*

JC004

Quote from: PhoenixCadet on April 24, 2007, 01:55:31 AM
Oh, oh, I wanna be a Cadet Recon Dude!  Where do I volunteer? 


*Please don't say e-Services*

Just take a weapon and run to your liking.  We've never been incredibly organized before in mission execution.  Why should we be now?   :D

mikeylikey

OK......see everyone in Brasilia.  Is that really the capital of Brazil?  Either way, If I don't find anyone else to have made it I will comendere a Brazil CAP plane, take back our logos and make my way to Havana.  I will try to make friends with a local family and promise them a better life in the US, get them to turn their bathtub into a boat and hopefully if all goes well land in Florida.  When I do arrive in Florida, please have INS waiting so we can send back my shipmates.  This should get me at least a Commanders Commendation, right?
What's up monkeys?

alamrcn

Uhh Oooo...

Wolf Blitzer just mentioned this thred on the Situation Room, and said Civil Air Patrol is on "Hightened Alert" - moving the Threat Status back into Orange!

We better move before Brazil moves first. I've been watching the Buttman tapes (someone will get it), and I'm ready to go!

- Ace



Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

LtCol White

Quote from: alamrcn on April 30, 2007, 05:23:03 PM
Uhh Oooo...

Wolf Blitzer just mentioned this thred on the Situation Room, and said Civil Air Patrol is on "Hightened Alert" - moving the Threat Status back into Orange!

We better move before Brazil moves first. I've been watching the Buttman tapes (someone will get it), and I'm ready to go!

- Ace


I'd be careful saying you are watching something called "Buttman" tapes. Someone might get the wrong idea.  >:D
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

LTC_Gadget

Yeah.. what he said.

I might agree to be your best  man. I might be your wingman.  But I would never  be your buttman!!  ;D Just say NOOOOOOO!!
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 04:50:57 AM
OK......see everyone in Brasilia.  Is that really the capital of Brazil? 

Yup... used to be Sao Paulo until the 1950s, when they built Brasilia outta the middle of the jungle.

Don't forget, Sodom-on-Potomac - ahem, Washington D.C. - was built outta tida swamps. British Embassy once considered it a hardship posting because of the heat and humidity.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

DeputyDog

Quote from: AlphaSigOU on May 01, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 04:50:57 AM
OK......see everyone in Brasilia.  Is that really the capital of Brazil? 

Yup... used to be Sao Paulo until the 1950s, when they built Brasilia outta the middle of the jungle.

It was Rio de Janeiro until 1960...

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: DeputyDog on May 01, 2007, 12:48:21 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on May 01, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: mikeylikey on April 24, 2007, 04:50:57 AM
OK......see everyone in Brasilia.  Is that really the capital of Brazil? 

Yup... used to be Sao Paulo until the 1950s, when they built Brasilia outta the middle of the jungle.

It was Rio de Janeiro until 1960...

I stand corrected...
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040