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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Hawk200 on November 30, 2019, 04:13:48 PM

Title: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Hawk200 on November 30, 2019, 04:13:48 PM
Hopefully, this is appropriate place to ask.

Anyone familiar with this?

Ran across it while perusing Twitter @cap_nrat . Clicking the link gives an error ("you do not have permission to view this page.")

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Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Eclipse on November 30, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/NRAT_Update___Jun_2017_C0D1DD497B263.pdf

Yes - plenty of discussion here on the NRAT.

It's a small group of CAP members with special access to the cell phone system fast-access to radar data & NTAP
data that they use in combination with BISC-type search techniques to find missing people and aircraft.

They have accounted for the lion's share of saves for the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Hawk200 on November 30, 2019, 05:18:59 PM
Interesting.

I scanned through the PDF on my phone.

Are they organized as a unit? Or can anyone join it? (With appropriate background, of course.)

Just find this interesting. Seems very efficient in what they've managed to accomplish. (Which is very important.)

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Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Fubar on November 30, 2019, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 30, 2019, 04:20:53 PMIt's a small group of CAP members with special access to the cell phone system as well as NTAP
data that they use in combination with BISC-type search techniques to find missing people and aircraft.

NRAT does not use cell phone information, that would be the "Cell Phone Team" that does that.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: NIN on November 30, 2019, 10:20:34 PM
The NRAT & Cell Phone teams are very small and kept that way organizationally for a reason.

People get "hired" for those teams based on a very select set of skills and abilities that they can contribute.

There are only 13 people on the NRAT team and they are a chartered unit.

The Cell team is part of AZ Wing, but they're a national asset.  They're even smaller than the NRAT team.
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Eclipse on November 30, 2019, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 30, 2019, 10:20:34 PM
People get "hired" for those teams based on a very select set of skills and abilities that they can contribute.

Liam Neeson has been the CC since 2008.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28BZ5zWy/lm.jpg)
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: etodd on December 01, 2019, 03:20:29 AM
These members can do their jobs with their laptops while sitting on a beach enjoying a sip of tea. They can be anywhere in the world with internet access. IOW, there is no need for each Wing to have a team. Its not a local operation. IMHO, its really marginally a CAP operation. These members could splinter off and do their own thing as long as another organization with the connections to cell phone and radar data would take them in.

However its good they stay with us ... when they make a find or save, CAP nationally gets credited, so we can use those numbers in our marketing, as if we were all involved. Its really quite amusing when you think about it. :)
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: CAP9907 on December 01, 2019, 03:44:34 AM
Quote from: etodd on December 01, 2019, 03:20:29 AM
These members can do their jobs with their laptops while sitting on a beach enjoying a sip of tea. They can be anywhere in the world with internet access. IOW, there is no need for each Wing to have a team. Its not a local operation. IMHO, its really marginally a CAP operation. These members could splinter off and do their own thing as long as another organization with the connections to cell phone and radar data would take them in.

However its good they stay with us ... when they make a find or save, CAP nationally gets credited, so we can use those numbers in our marketing, as if we were all involved. Its really quite amusing when you think about it. :)

I can only agree 100% with this... as a 20 yr SAR professional and CAP volunteer.

~9907
Title: Re: Civil Air Patrol National Radar Analysis Team
Post by: Hawk200 on December 01, 2019, 01:50:17 PM


Quote from: NIN on November 30, 2019, 10:20:34 PM
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People get "hired" for those teams based on a very select set of skills and abilities that they can contribute.

There are only 13 people on the NRAT team and they are a chartered unit.

The Cell team is part of AZ Wing, but they're a national asset.  They're even smaller than the NRAT team.

That's the info I was curious about.

I don't I have the skills to join NRAT, but it's cool to know about such a unit.

Even though people can't just join up those units, it could be something useful to mention when recruiting. People like to be part of organizations with unique missions, even if they don't directly contribute to that particular mission.

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